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In reply to the discussion: New York Times article today [View all]

karynnj

(59,498 posts)
8. Explain what?
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 06:39 PM
Dec 2012

These are 4 inside the belt way pundits who were advocates of Susan Rice. They are angry. They are focusing that anger on McCain and Graham. However, only two people had any say in this decision - Rice and Obama.

Why are you posting this here - it has NOTHING to do with the op which is on John Kerry.

At the risk of seeming insensitive, I think that not everything revolves around race. Susan Rice was not hurt because she was black or a woman. Two of the last three SOSs were black and two out of the three were women. You could argue that white males were under represented!

I suspect that especially among Republicans in the Senate, the problem is that she has not worked to establish relationships with the Congress. (Stepping into dangerous areas, one thing I am reading between the lines is that she is a fairly typical fast track, high achievement person who is always focused on pleasing those higher up and was unhelpful and disinterested in anyone lower or a peer. This, incidentally, would explain the praise from Obama and Kerry (who she worked for in 2004). It is surprising that the Clintons were not there praising her. Could that be explained by HRC being on the security team with her? )

That lack of a good personal relationship made her the butt of their anger over what they think were lies - for political reasons immediately before an election. One question is why the State Department told their people NOT to speak on Benghazi and why the various intelligence people were not there. Was this an attempt to see if Rice could pass the test of doing these shows avoiding it blowing up into controversy?? If you think that unfair, there have been at least 10 or so things Kerry did - all excellently - that the media spoke of as "tests" - and he had FAR more experience than Rice ever had - so tests were less needed.

New York Times article today [View all] beachmom Dec 2012 OP
Pure silliness. ProSense Dec 2012 #1
Exactly! DoBotherMe Dec 2012 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author politicasista Dec 2012 #5
Explain what? Mass Dec 2012 #6
delete. not important n/t politicasista Dec 2012 #7
Explain what? karynnj Dec 2012 #8
Your observation makes a lot of sense Blaukraut Dec 2012 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author politicasista Jan 2013 #14
link deleted n/t politicasista Dec 2012 #10
That is infuriating, but typical NYT karynnj Dec 2012 #2
I have given up on the media in general Mass Dec 2012 #3
I thought this article was drivel MBS Dec 2012 #11
Great!! Wonderful insight karynnj Dec 2012 #13
No surprises here. wisteria Dec 2012 #12
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