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Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)
25. You're shouting at the wrong person. Judi Lynn made no such claim.
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 12:58 PM
Oct 2012

I am the one who said it--that the Chavez government had wiped out illiteracy. And you're right, that that was inaccurate. I believed a government press release of a couple of years go, without looking into it further.

However, I still credit the Chavez government for making a big effort, even if they exaggerated their success, to eliminate illiteracy entirely, and also, as Judi Lynn, points out, for very significant achievements in education, including doubling of college enrollment. There is literacy and there is quality literacy--being able to read and understand the Constitution, or a ballot, or Gabriel Marquez novels. The Chavez government, and the people of Venezuela, have not only aimed at total literacy, they have aimed at a well-educated, well-informed population, with no one excluded from school because of poverty, and no one held back from education to the limit of their abilities, for lack of money.

Lord, they print the Constitution on grocery bags in Venezuela! They want people to read. They want people to understand. It is the major thrust and policy of the Bolivarian Revolution.

To say that, because a tiny fragment of the population is still illiterate, Venezuelan voters are going to misread a ballot that has been deliberately designed by the CNE to confuse voters and lose Capriles votes, is absurdly false. It is not only an insult to Venezuelans, it is an insult to truth itself.

The CNE has been closely monitored by every major elections group in the world, has been repeatedly certified by all of them, and has been recently praised by none other than Jimmy Carter, as being "the best election system in the world." There is no way that the CNE would risk their reputation on a faulty ballot, and if a mistake of some kind was made, they would immediately correct it, and, if need be, postpone the election. Furthermore, by statute, the CNE includes full and active participation by all parties. If there is a faulty ballot, it is as much the fault of the Capriles campaign as anyone else.

To allege that the CNE has deliberately designed a ballot to favor Chavez, and to imply that Venezuelan voters are stupid and illiterate and the CNE is preying upon them, is worse than a lie. It is vicious propaganda.

I admitted my mistake, but I guarantee you that whoever is putting forth this vicious propaganda will not admit theirs.

As to the transparency of the election COLGATE4 Oct 2012 #1
It will be interesting to see naaman fletcher Oct 2012 #2
there are 4 party boxes with Capriles' picture that will NOT be counted Bacchus4.0 Oct 2012 #3
sounds like the opposition are well on the way in making preparations for defeat SESKATOW Oct 2012 #4
Nope. But it's cute that you deflect from this obvious ballot gaming. joshcryer Oct 2012 #8
Apparentely the rich have a problem with reading. I did say to ease up on the conjac SESKATOW Oct 2012 #9
Capriles has support across all demographics. joshcryer Oct 2012 #13
Red? SESKATOW Oct 2012 #14
Yes. joshcryer Oct 2012 #15
MUD are falling apart. Now that's hilarious SESKATOW Oct 2012 #16
I had understood that only 1 of the 4 party boxes COLGATE4 Oct 2012 #5
Yeah, might not help those who can't read the printout though. joshcryer Oct 2012 #10
Lord I get so tired of this crap from the right. Here we go again! Peace Patriot Oct 2012 #6
I hear you PP SESKATOW Oct 2012 #7
Yeah, I'm sure you defended all those votes Pat Buchanan got. joshcryer Oct 2012 #12
I'm so happy we're on the same page when it comes to their electoral process. joshcryer Oct 2012 #11
It must be comforting to cast any negative COLGATE4 Oct 2012 #17
Well, there HAS BEEN a "vast, rightwing conspiracy" in Venezuela, Peace Patriot Oct 2012 #19
Wiped out illiteracy? lol. You will believe anything naaman fletcher Oct 2012 #18
UNESCO holds a different view from the right-wing evaluation of Venezuela's system Judi Lynn Oct 2012 #20
WTF r u talking about? naaman fletcher Oct 2012 #21
Naaman - what do you say is the illiteracy rate in V????? SESKATOW Oct 2012 #22
4.9% as of latest data. nt naaman fletcher Oct 2012 #23
And pre Chavez? SESKATOW Oct 2012 #24
6.4? joshcryer Oct 2012 #26
source? SESKATOW Oct 2012 #30
Post #18? joshcryer Oct 2012 #31
Household survey? How representative of you. Man u guys are amateurs SESKATOW Oct 2012 #32
That's straight from the governments mouth. joshcryer Oct 2012 #33
You're shouting at the wrong person. Judi Lynn made no such claim. Peace Patriot Oct 2012 #25
It's no big deal, really naaman fletcher Oct 2012 #27
There has never been the slightest excuse for being nasty here. It's a Democratic site. Judi Lynn Oct 2012 #28
What are you talking about? naaman fletcher Oct 2012 #29
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