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Fri Dec 23, 2011, 11:39 AM

19. Thanks for the info in your comment...

...and I would greatly appreciated some reliable sources on it, especially on what the people of the Malvinas want and why there has been no plebiscite about it.

I am absolutely not saying that "only great powers have a right to exist." Please don't twist what I say. What smaller sovereign countries generally do, to defend themselves, is form alliances--within their region and, of course, by becoming members, in their own right, of the United Nations. They may also establish their own military which, in alliance with other countries and in cooperation with their militaries, would protect their independence. Falklanders have none of these choices. They cannot defend themselves because they have NO control over their foreign policy and NO control over the British military. They have NO sovereignty and their "rights" as a country are greatly attenuated. Do they have a right to give their sovereignty away to the Queen (i.e., to England's rich/corporate elite)? That depends on how democratic they are. And that is something else I don't know enough to judge. Are they run by a traditional royalist elite? Do they have an exploited, disregarded underclass, like England? How "free" are they, to make that choice?

Regarding the history of the Falklands--the Falklands War and before--Argentina has been so incredibly messed with, by the U.S. government's support of fascists, torturers and murderers, and by the World Bank/IMF and its powers (U.S./U.K.), that it isn't fair to accuse the "Argits" of "stupidity." Argentines, as a people, have only recently achieved democratic control of their country. Prior decisions were NOT democratically controlled. And considering how successful their elected leftist governments have been at severing World Bank/IMF control of their economy and putting Argentina on a prosperous, social justice path, and also considering how successful the people of Argentina have been, at establishing their own civil and human rights, "stupid" is not the word for them and their leaders. "Smart" is.

One thing that I DO know about this situation, and that is that England has expanded its claim to the oil between the Falklands and Argentina's coast. And another thing I know is that there have been TWO wars, thus far--Iraq and Libya--instigated by the U.S./U.K. war profiteers, to get control of more oil. They also appear to be preparing for a third oil war (Iran) and there is considerable evidence that they intend a fourth oil war--in Latin America, which would probably unfold in the Caribbean and Central America, to gain control of Venezuela's oil. THAT is why the recent former president of Brazil, Lula da Silva, stated that the U.S./Bush Junta reconstitution of the U.S. 4th Fleet in the Caribbean (mothballed since WW II) "is a threat to Brazil's oil."

I repeat that there are TWO issues in this dispute: 1) the rights of the people of the Malvinas, and 2) the oil.

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