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Response to LaydeeBug (Reply #6)

Thu Dec 8, 2016, 08:34 PM

7. I asked for information about their veracity.


I pose the question about veracity, so you read that as my giving my answer, namely that I have no reason to doubt their veracity? That doesn't follow at all.

Back in the Cold War days, the hostile foreign country (I assume you meant "country" rather than "company" was the USSR. Faced with criticism of its internal practices, that country frequently countered with "And you are lynching Negroes", pointing to lynchings in the American South as a tu quoque argument. That allegation served the interests of the hostile foreign country. It also happened to be true. This particular source's general unreliability and clear bias didn't constitute adequate basis for concluding that its every statement was false.

For the purported Podesta emails, what do we know? Here's what I know:
* The release came from WikiLeaks, which IMO has a good track record; releases that it attests to be credible have been credible.
* As against that, WikiLeaks, by itself, can't obtain such material. Instead, it relies on other parties, who may have their own agendas. Regardless of what role Russia actually played in this particular publication, we know for sure that the release served the interest of someone (actually multiple someones). Thus, there was a motive for fabricated or altered emails.
* I don't remember reading that Podesta or anyone else listing as sending or receiving an email publicly disputed the authenticity. That's a piece of evidence, though of course it's not dispositive.

I didn't follow the details of the whole thing, because there was nothing in the emails, even if they were 100% accurate, that would sway me away from voting for Clinton. You referred to "fake news" so I asked what basis you have for that characterization. If you have nothing more than your attitude toward Russia, but you consider that to be sufficient basis, then that's your answer.

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