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Thu May 28, 2015, 07:49 PM

What does Bernie believe about the ELECTRONIC VOTING MACHINES? [View all]

Does he have any advisors who know anything about this? I doubt it.

One quite recent book on the subject, CODE RED by Jonathan Simon, gives a good summary of how we got to where we are (where 98% of the vote is counted electronically on computers and are thus virtually unverifiable), where Republicans have become the most powerful party even though every demographic would indicate otherwise, and where the corporations that count the votes keep making sure that any shift away from the pre-election polls or the exit polls is always a RED SHIFT.

I'm with Bernie but I'm afraid I don't believe Hillary is his most serious obstacle to election. And even if by the grace of God he is elected, the people on the lower ends of the ballot, the Reps and the Sens, are the ones that are the most often the ones who are narrowly beaten despite showing stronger in the pre-election polls and in the exit polls. And he will have to have a Senate and a House to work with if he's to do any of the things he wants to do.

About all we mortals can do is pray I guess. The immortals are on the board at Dominion or ES&S. Here's a LTE I wrote recently (200 wds limit) related to this subject:

HAVE WE GIVEN UP ON ELECTION INTEGRITY?

Electronic voting machines are essentially unverifiable. Itís as if we give our vote to a guy who takes our vote into a room, then comes out later and says that he has carefully counted all the votes before shredding them, and hereís the result. Like it or lump it. And yet thousands of elections since computers began counting votes in 1988 have not squared with the exit polls or with other significant measures of validity. In the last election in Kansas, for example, Beth Clarkson, a statistician at WSU, found some marked irregularities in terms of urban/rural deviance and asked to be allowed to study the paper tapes from the voting machines to square them with the precinct results. Kris Kobach would not allow her to do so. We are now at a point where corporations count about 98% of the vote and itís almost impossible to verify anything. Isnít it time we joined Germany, Ireland, and the Netherlands and trashed the machines in favor of easily verified paper ballots, preferably hand-counted?

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