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Hoyt

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34. Looks to me that the adjusted premiums are reasonable for folks with lower income. Considering
Sun Apr 7, 2013, 02:47 PM
Apr 2013

In fact, they look pretty reasonable from current rates for upper income folks compared to today's rates.

Considering insurers can't deny coverage for pre-existing conditions, many of us would have been much better off if this plan had been enacted years ago.

Health insurance is never going to be cheap unless we make some major changes in this country, including our own expectations. Even if we were all under the current Medicare system, I doubt the premiums would be less than about 10% of private insurers' rates when they are up against stiff competition (as under the exchages), and a Medical Loss Ratio cap.

While I support single payer too, truthfully I'm not sure premiums would be a bit cheaper unless Medicare were dramatically changed from the current system where you can go to any doctor you choose, as often as you choose, and they can order just about any test they want, etc. I think the Accountable Care Organization provisions in the ACA might make a difference, if people are willing to give up some freedom of choice. But, how many are willing to do that without griping?

I'm assuming this is the insurance exchange bluestateguy Feb 2013 #1
yes SHRED Feb 2013 #2
It is bullshit. It is still too expensive for a hell of a lot of people. In order to qualify for still_one Feb 2013 #3
I agree... SHRED Feb 2013 #4
The premium is 1723/month for 2 people with annual income of 75k. That is just outrageous still_one Feb 2013 #6
You just wrote that and you don't even understand what you wrote CreekDog Apr 2013 #39
It's NOT bullshit for those of us who got completely priced out of the market years ago. kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #7
Good for you, for 2 people making 75k they will pay 1723/month. Not affordable at all still_one Feb 2013 #9
Cry me a river. I'd kill for that kind of income. And I am in an extremely expensive area, too. kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #12
So in other words good for,you and screw everyone else still_one Feb 2013 #13
I'm getting concerned about this. savalez Apr 2013 #23
You are reading it right. I will assume they screwed up and give them the benefit of the doubt, and still_one Apr 2013 #24
Subsidies are tax credits antiquie Apr 2013 #25
I looked into that savalez Apr 2013 #35
Thanks for your response antiquie Apr 2013 #36
I know. savalez Apr 2013 #38
They aren't rich, either. onpatrol98 Apr 2013 #27
Exactly still_one Apr 2013 #31
Well, they failed. antiquie Apr 2013 #37
talking to someone making less money than you as if they are "lucky" is appalling CreekDog Apr 2013 #40
You are totally right CountAllVotes Apr 2013 #30
Awesome!! I am so excited for this to be actually happening. kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #5
A family of 2 making 75k will pay 1723/month in premiums. It may fit your profile well still_one Feb 2013 #8
If that's too expensive, they are free to buy insurance on the non-exchange market, which kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #11
It isn't me, it is going to be the middle class in this country that will be pissed still_one Feb 2013 #14
Well, I will feel sorry for them... onpatrol98 Apr 2013 #28
I think work needs to be done on that calculator SHRED Feb 2013 #15
It's only $635/mo for a single person with a good income per the calculator Zorro Feb 2013 #16
636/mo for a single person is more than cobra, and for those with a high deductable plan still_one Feb 2013 #17
How about PasadenaTrudy Feb 2013 #18
UPDATE SHRED Feb 2013 #19
Thanks for checking SalviaBlue Feb 2013 #20
I checked the calculator. Le Taz Hot Feb 2013 #21
How about the fact that the U.S. is set to sponsor Health Insurance nationally? BlueCaliDem Mar 2013 #22
Please provide a link not to NYT. antiquie Apr 2013 #26
The fact that this article appeared in the NYT on page A23 BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #29
I'll wait until California acknowledges it. antiquie Apr 2013 #32
The Government Employees Health Association has been mentioned as one possible non-profit source - pinto Apr 2013 #33
Looks to me that the adjusted premiums are reasonable for folks with lower income. Considering Hoyt Apr 2013 #34
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