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Spike89

(1,569 posts)
75. Sad world without decoration
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 05:44 PM
Nov 2012

I suppose plastic flowers, plastic trees, and astroturf parks make sense to some. Others are fine doing without a daisy, christmas tree, or managed greenery. Christmas trees (as many have already said) are a farmed crop. Here in Oregon, one of the major Xmas tree producers, they are almost exclusively located on marginal land or farmland that is being rotated. The trees grow with virtually no fertilizer, pesticides, or irrigation. They also grow dense enough that 9 out of 10 of the planted trees would be "murdered" by their neighbors due to overcrowding before they'd reach the age of 50. Almost all of them are cut 4-8 years after planting.

Flowers, of almost any type, are infinity more detriment to the environment. Even non-cut flowers are a much bigger waste of resources. We should maybe switch all the effort we put into "useless" decoration and make sure we have enough sack clothe, ashes, and whips to punish ourselves for the harm our existence causes.

OTOH - I have no problem with anyone who says trees are too messy, smell unpleasant to them, or just think they are ugly. I just don't think one of the very best things about humanity--our ability to see, appreciate, and create art--is useless or a waste.

We decorate not to waste, but because not to decorate is a waste of our humanity.

Yes. When I get them, I get them in pots LadyHawkAZ Nov 2012 #1
Yes. AngryOldDem Nov 2012 #2
No. Denninmi Nov 2012 #3
No. They are grown as an agricultural crop just for that purpose. Arkansas Granny Nov 2012 #4
!!! MiddleFingerMom Nov 2012 #5
True, but... Wait Wut Nov 2012 #11
You could do what I did as a teen. Chan790 Nov 2012 #14
I like that idea! Wait Wut Nov 2012 #74
Nope. Most of them are grown as a renewable resource. Up where I live, you can cut your own in a Brickbat Nov 2012 #6
Yes TuxedoKat Nov 2012 #7
I get almost pipi_k Nov 2012 #8
+1 darkangel218 Nov 2012 #13
Hell Yes...When I cut and kill a tree, I do so out of sadistic glee. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #9
As a horticulturist kurtzapril4 Nov 2012 #10
Most " agricultural crop " we eat. darkangel218 Nov 2012 #12
Most corn and soybeans in this country isn't produced for human consumption. n/t geardaddy Nov 2012 #22
Yes, but theyre not used for " decoration and fragrance " either. nt darkangel218 Nov 2012 #29
That's true. n/t geardaddy Nov 2012 #31
All plants have life. kurtzapril4 Nov 2012 #34
Most xmas trees end up in copped up in dumpsters. darkangel218 Nov 2012 #36
Actually, the majority of them are recycled in some way. Brickbat Nov 2012 #40
I don't know if they still do it, but Art_from_Ark Nov 2012 #62
Does that also include Bohunk68 Nov 2012 #66
Housing isn't solely for decoration. n/t JoeyT Nov 2012 #67
you can bring a horticulture datasuspect Nov 2012 #41
I understand your concern for the trees, since I'm a bit of a fanatic with trees, too. Baitball Blogger Nov 2012 #15
I just dont think we should grow and kill life just for amusement darkangel218 Nov 2012 #16
I fully respect your position. Baitball Blogger Nov 2012 #38
I'm not much of a fan of it either. JoeyT Nov 2012 #17
Thats the thing, most people dont even bother to take them to recycling places darkangel218 Nov 2012 #32
I live among trees NV Whino Nov 2012 #18
+1 darkangel218 Nov 2012 #27
You're all a bunch of tree-huggers! Bake Nov 2012 #19
Nope, not one tiny bit. MicaelS Nov 2012 #20
OK. Here's a question for those who use plastic trees to save the real ones. Arkansas Granny Nov 2012 #21
That was my pipi_k Nov 2012 #50
The Tree at Rockefeller Center ... Myrina Nov 2012 #23
Sick, ain't it? GoCubsGo Nov 2012 #64
Fake can't replicate the fragrance. Denninmi Nov 2012 #24
Natural fragrance for less than a month doesnt justfy killing a tree. darkangel218 Nov 2012 #25
I think we'll have to agree to disagree, then Denninmi Nov 2012 #43
Yups, lol darkangel218 Nov 2012 #44
Decent, cool but sunny. Denninmi Nov 2012 #51
They are farmed for the purpose TrueBlueinCO Nov 2012 #26
How about plant them and leave them alone? darkangel218 Nov 2012 #28
You are welcome to do just that TrueBlueinCO Nov 2012 #30
Sure, theyre making a profit, so that makes it a-okay. darkangel218 Nov 2012 #33
making a profit certainly doesn't make it wrong TrueBlueinCO Nov 2012 #47
I respect your opinion but i wont change mine either. darkangel218 Nov 2012 #48
Good point. In most cases the soil and climate where these trees are grown The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2012 #49
+1 for the cats... Fearless Nov 2012 #53
Cats know best! darkangel218 Nov 2012 #55
Doesn't bother me. It's a crop. Trees are chopped down and replanted. Arugula Latte Nov 2012 #59
Why? I believe a young tree growing quickly fixes more CO2 than a mature stable tree. eom yawnmaster Nov 2012 #57
When I was a teenager OriginalGeek Nov 2012 #35
Hehehe! +1 darkangel218 Nov 2012 #37
I prune my evergreens in December. Tanuki Nov 2012 #39
Nope hibbing Nov 2012 #42
Yes. Several reasons. Manifestor_of_Light Nov 2012 #45
yes, I get them in pots but they still die Liberal_in_LA Nov 2012 #46
Nope. Fearless Nov 2012 #52
We have an artificial tree. Once it is all applegrove Nov 2012 #54
Yes. Moondog Nov 2012 #56
I have absolutely no problem with it. For a time, the outdoors are brought indoors... yawnmaster Nov 2012 #58
I prefer plastic just for the sake of convenience, Codeine Nov 2012 #60
Im sorry it that word offended you. nt darkangel218 Nov 2012 #69
I don't like it at all, but at least they're treated as a renewable resource Flaxbee Nov 2012 #61
Not at all. I'd have to be against paper, wood products, and development too. Besides nolabear Nov 2012 #63
Never got tree for Christmas hankthecrank Nov 2012 #65
A Plastic tree which is filled with all sorts of toxins that take thousands of years to break down?? madinmaryland Nov 2012 #68
The real trees are grown specially to be cut down for Christmas. New ones are planted. Artificial Honeycombe8 Nov 2012 #70
Yes, it's a sick and wasteful tradition, as well as a fire hazard we can do it Nov 2012 #71
KILL a tree for Christ! - My husband's slogan for this time of year. csziggy Nov 2012 #72
Not every sapling grows into a forest giant XemaSab Nov 2012 #73
Sad world without decoration Spike89 Nov 2012 #75
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