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In reply to the discussion: Proof: Concealed carry permit holders live in a dream world...... [View all]GreenStormCloud
(12,072 posts)61. Definately a gun is not for you.
I don't want their second hand gun smoke and bullets flying, or more like ricocheting, in my direction.
Please show where this has happened in real life. I can easily post dozens of MSM news articles of real world CCWers who have defended themselves from armed criminals. I am aware of only one case of a CCWer missing and hitting the wrong person.
I'm not sure why people want to swagger around packing heat like it was in the days of the Wild West.
We don't swagger. All CCW classes teach awarness & avoidance first, engagement as a last resort.
You were held at knifepoint because you failed to spot trouble coming. Maybe the situation didn't allow it, or maybe you weren't alert. There are numerous training books and videos on how to spot and avoid dangerous situations. None of them are macho-looking-for-a-fight type.
I know numerous people who have CCWs and NONE of them swagger, looking for trouble. Such people are rarely able to get a CCW as the attitude of looking for trouble will have gotten them in trouble with the law fairly early and they will not pass the screening.
According to the FBI there are over 10 million violent and/or property crimes every year in the U.S. It isn't paranoia to be prepared.
If you want to be helpless, that is your right. I respect your right, but not your choice. Please don't use misinformation to try to push your choice onto me.
Please show where this has happened in real life. I can easily post dozens of MSM news articles of real world CCWers who have defended themselves from armed criminals. I am aware of only one case of a CCWer missing and hitting the wrong person.
I'm not sure why people want to swagger around packing heat like it was in the days of the Wild West.
We don't swagger. All CCW classes teach awarness & avoidance first, engagement as a last resort.
You were held at knifepoint because you failed to spot trouble coming. Maybe the situation didn't allow it, or maybe you weren't alert. There are numerous training books and videos on how to spot and avoid dangerous situations. None of them are macho-looking-for-a-fight type.
I know numerous people who have CCWs and NONE of them swagger, looking for trouble. Such people are rarely able to get a CCW as the attitude of looking for trouble will have gotten them in trouble with the law fairly early and they will not pass the screening.
According to the FBI there are over 10 million violent and/or property crimes every year in the U.S. It isn't paranoia to be prepared.
If you want to be helpless, that is your right. I respect your right, but not your choice. Please don't use misinformation to try to push your choice onto me.
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That is really important. Everyone on both sides should be required to watch it.
Squinch
Jan 2013
#3
It's got 26,517 dislikes b/c gun nuts & their sock puppets like voting in anonymous internet polls.
baldguy
Jan 2013
#68
I gave you a list of things they could have done to make it a fair test.
GreenStormCloud
Jan 2013
#64
LOL. You just reminded me of my Conservative Grandmother who lived in Southern California
rightsideout
Jan 2013
#52
Anyone who doesn't know when a shooter will show up is set up to fail. Period. That's life.
ancianita
Jan 2013
#17
That said, this video can also be said to fairly approximate defense success irl.
ancianita
Jan 2013
#23
One Big Policy Change that I'm for is that CCW be vastly more limited than it now is.
ancianita
Jan 2013
#27
Not all CCW are criminals, but all criminals conceal their weapons to their intended advantage. nt
ancianita
Jan 2013
#32
Working on the criminal element means that if they can see open carriers around, they're less
ancianita
Jan 2013
#42
Why not. There's a compelling public interest in maintaining public safety. There's no talking
ancianita
Jan 2013
#43
Every shooter who has knowledge of which individual in the room is armed is set up to succeed. n/t
lumberjack_jeff
Jan 2013
#41