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bvar22

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91. Turnabout is fair play!

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 12:31 PM

Nov 2012

You insist that:
[font color=red] "all hands were were on deck to help Mitt get elected, we are back to the default position where one conspiracy after another is started amongst democrats. This serves only to alienate dems from each other, as is the aim." ---applegrove, post #32[/font]
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You and a handful of other self-appointed Hall Monitors have continuously attacked Democrats by incessantly repeating the extraordinary claim that an open discussion of the issues suppresses voter turnout and helps Republicans,
and yet you and yours have not offered the first shred of proof to support this wild claim.

[font size=4]PROVE IT, or STFU!
[/font]

After election 2012, it would appear that your claim is utter bullshit, and an open discussion of the issues actually helps INCREASE turnout.

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Thom Hartmann: Why it's not crazy to think Anonymous stopped Karl Rove From Stealing the Election P2 [View all] thomhartmann Nov 2012 OP

just from the timing of the release of the hostages, many of us knew something fishy had niyad Nov 2012 #1

This should be required viewing xfundy Nov 2012 #2

you are correct, it should be required viewing. he did mention kerry, but only in passing. niyad Nov 2012 #3

Amen. I believe that these things should be spread far & wide.. I cannot believe some of the Ecumenist Nov 2012 #4

But...but, they are only looking out for our best interests. rhett o rick Nov 2012 #5

I thought that efforts to stop Husted's last minute software patch were decisive. Overseas Nov 2012 #123

Thank you Anonymous and KegCreekDem Nov 2012 #6

Only one problem. It is not true except that he frames it as "possible" Coyotl Nov 2012 #110

Methinks thou dost protesteth too much. KegCreekDem Nov 2012 #122

No E-Voting in Germany. OnyxCollie Nov 2012 #7

Wow, exactly-- 'a high degree of [physical] effort' cprise Nov 2012 #67

All good and well, but it proves nothing about 2012, so Thom is just back-pedalling Coyotl Nov 2012 #8

The Germans banned electronic voting OnyxCollie Nov 2012 #10

So would I. But that doesn't prove anything except that I have good taste in voting. Coyotl Nov 2012 #14

"But, what if everyone could read and test the code? " OnyxCollie Nov 2012 #16

your dog has a nice smile............ kooljerk666 Nov 2012 #21

Why assume I need to be told what is wrong with voting today? Coyotl Nov 2012 #22

How can you "prove" what is non-factual? OnyxCollie Nov 2012 #26

Large corporations also control the circuitry cprise Nov 2012 #68

Why in the world are you contorting yourself into a pretzel 99th_Monkey Nov 2012 #18

I think the word is "CONTEXT" 99th_Monkey Nov 2012 #17

You have to see what he said before this tape to know what he is back-petalling Coyotl Nov 2012 #23

I've seen all THREE of Thom's tapes on this story 99th_Monkey Nov 2012 #25

He did that to prop up his own viewpoint. Coyotl Nov 2012 #48

"prop up his own viewpoint"? is an undeserved slur 99th_Monkey Nov 2012 #79

Why isn't it "a silly CT to think Rove tried to steal OH"? Coyotl Nov 2012 #81

What is yor take on Michael Collins' reporting on the 2012 primaries? reusrename Nov 2012 #89

Collins was not the only one who noticed the 2012 GOP Primary vote-buggery 99th_Monkey Nov 2012 #97

Ron Paul was an infinitely better candidate. reusrename Nov 2012 #99

If you are such an "insider" with first-hand knowledge of how Rove REALLY stole OH 99th_Monkey Nov 2012 #98

This is exactly why this video was produced. reusrename Nov 2012 #73

+10 99th_Monkey Nov 2012 #78

I TOO AM GRATEFUL TO TOM FOR SHARING THESE NASTY TRUTHS, BUT drynberg Nov 2012 #9

You can start "now" by joining the groups we started eight years ago! Coyotl Nov 2012 #82

The number one problem is our news media. Festivito Nov 2012 #95

Benghazi could have been a CIA operation to hurt Obama to influence the election. amywalk Nov 2012 #11

amywalk, your comment has not been lost. A whole lot of us bonniebgood Nov 2012 #46

or it could have been war crimes reusrename Nov 2012 #117

And Behind The Scenes This Was Found Out By The Obama Administration And...... global1 Nov 2012 #77

If Anonymous had proof on Rove they would spill it. iandhr Nov 2012 #12

Anon actually promised in the video to spill the evidence Coyotl Nov 2012 #15

Seriously LiberalLovinLug Nov 2012 #28

So, that proves this election was totally on the up and up and Rove RC Nov 2012 #20

Try to understand that I am skeptical of what hasn't been proven Coyotl Nov 2012 #24

"We election integrity activists have been organized since 2004..." OnyxCollie Nov 2012 #27

yes!!!! heaven05 Nov 2012 #36

On the Internet, anyone can claim to be an "election integrity activist" Coyotl Nov 2012 #49

Still waiting on your evidence. OnyxCollie Nov 2012 #75

Still waiting on your evidence Coyotl Nov 2012 #80

Why should I take your word for it? OnyxCollie Nov 2012 #88

Sounds like Edison/Mitofsky doesn't it. reusrename Nov 2012 #116

You just gave the exact reason Anonymous may not want to reveal their identity cui bono Nov 2012 #108

Noone is asking Anon to reveal an identity. Besides, this is NOT Anon Coyotl Nov 2012 #112

Not necessarily. bvar22 Nov 2012 #69

Here, Here! Rockyj Nov 2012 #74

This message was self-deleted by its author bvar22 Nov 2012 #94

bookmarking for later. barbtries Nov 2012 #13

I will watch this later, but regardless of whether Anonymous thwarted Rove or not deutsey Nov 2012 #19

NOW you have DONE IT, Thom. bvar22 Nov 2012 #29

Absolutely! PROVE IT!!! or STFU. New Rule on DU. 99th_Monkey Nov 2012 #33

No, just prove unbelievable, extraordinary claims. No need to STFU Coyotl Nov 2012 #50

God you are annoying Pbs1914 Nov 2012 #59

How many threads are there on this topic? Coyotl Nov 2012 #64

It appears you have a fan. pintobean Nov 2012 #85

But not of my work! Coyotl Nov 2012 #87

Thanks for taking it down a notch. reusrename Nov 2012 #102

You're kidding Coyotl Nov 2012 #103

No, no, not snake oil. Mike Collins' report on the 2012 primaries. reusrename Nov 2012 #115

Prove it? RoccoR5955 Nov 2012 #45

Amen! Rockyj Nov 2012 #71

Since Jeb Bush is gearing up for 2016, bookmark this video Samantha Nov 2012 #30

'This is treason,' elleng Nov 2012 #31

Weird, huh? OnyxCollie Nov 2012 #34

THANKYOU. Given all that, the bank bailouts, and more, snot Nov 2012 #38

STFU elleng Nov 2012 #41

Uh oh. Here comes The List. nt OnyxCollie Nov 2012 #42

Yup, post right above yours has it. cui bono Nov 2012 #105

...OR... bvar22 Nov 2012 #40

We Dems do want to mention it, and love when someone can prove it too Coyotl Nov 2012 #51

Sorry, should have said Dem higher-ups in the party, elleng Nov 2012 #53

But do you see how combative you are in that post? cui bono Nov 2012 #106

no Coyotl Nov 2012 #111

After a break for months as all hands were applegrove Nov 2012 #32

It would be better OnyxCollie Nov 2012 #35

is that like not displaying heaven05 Nov 2012 #39

What? OnyxCollie Nov 2012 #44

Very well-put, erudite, insightful, and a joy to read Coyotl Nov 2012 #83

both heaven05 Nov 2012 #100

I'm not saying that. I'm just saying that if Rove or anyone did steal applegrove Nov 2012 #47

Really? I do not seem to remember a big investigation after the 2000 elections. nt Sadiedog Nov 2012 #54

That is because Al Gore, acting like a decent human being, gave applegrove Nov 2012 #56

Your post #56 is pure speculation. bvar22 Nov 2012 #92

It is common knowledge that Gore lost when he chose not applegrove Nov 2012 #118

I'm pretty sure Al Gore knows better. reusrename Nov 2012 #107

Are you saying you'd rather not have had Al Gore as president? applegrove Nov 2012 #119

Not at all. reusrename Nov 2012 #121

There was no massive criminal investigation OnyxCollie Nov 2012 #72

Criminal investigations only come to light with prosecutions, so you are maintaining you know Coyotl Nov 2012 #84

Away with you, OnyxCollie Nov 2012 #90

Don't you just hate it when a Coyotl Nov 2012 #52

Post removed Post removed Nov 2012 #60

Turnabout is fair play! bvar22 Nov 2012 #91

I was all for an open discussion on voter suppression this election. applegrove Nov 2012 #120

Thanks for this. Eye-opening. Hartmann's a Great American. byronius Nov 2012 #37

rethugs heaven05 Nov 2012 #43

I certainly don't think it's crazy. Not at all. When you consider who's involved and what their calimary Nov 2012 #55

Romney's own polling had Obama up by 5% on Election Day Stargleamer Nov 2012 #57

Wow this was awesome. psychmommy Nov 2012 #58

I basically wrote the exact same thing in a thread a few weeks back Pbs1914 Nov 2012 #61

So I'm glad Thom Hartman expanded on that idea having come to a similar conclusion Pbs1914 Nov 2012 #62

Amazing Video Pbs1914 Nov 2012 #63

At the same time this is all old history and very familiar Coyotl Nov 2012 #65

Post removed Post removed Nov 2012 #76

"And that's the way it is." Good job, dude. Good job. HopeHoops Nov 2012 #66

kickski Snarkoleptic Nov 2012 #70

Can A Political Party Be Charged With Treason? If So, We Should Nominate Republicans For The Honor cantbeserious Nov 2012 #86

Quoting you, Thom: ProSense Nov 2012 #93

That's not what he said until the first comments came under criticism Coyotl Nov 2012 #101

Anonymous claims to have abandoned that approach. reusrename Nov 2012 #114

"Eisenhower was the last legitmately elected Republican president." cui bono Nov 2012 #96

It is not true if you think about it Coyotl Nov 2012 #104

I don't think that if the treason were truly exposed and prosecuted they would get elected and cui bono Nov 2012 #109

We exposed Iran-Contra and that did not stop Bush I from winning once. Coyotl Nov 2012 #113