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ehrnst

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89. Yeah, there's no sexism, racism, xenophobia there. All that affordable health care and wage equity

Fri Sep 8, 2017, 07:59 PM

Sep 2017

just "made all that right."

Be patient, women, gays, people of color and non-Christians! When white men get paid what they think they deserve, they will let all of you people have all the rights you want.

Until then, be quiet, let Bernie handle things, and the social justice will trickle down.

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Thomas Frank: Why Clinton attacks Sanders in new Book [View all] booley Sep 2017 OP

Link, please? The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2017 #1

doesnt' the video show up for you? booley Sep 2017 #4

I thought there was a text article- never mind! The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2017 #6

Here is a Link to Real News as well as video link NWProf Sep 2017 #38

"The Real News"? lapucelle Sep 2017 #97

Are you not familiar with Thomas Frank? Zen Democrat Sep 2017 #123

Did Thomas Frank wind up voting for Jill Stein? lapucelle Sep 2017 #125

Well, I know at least one real news organization Susan Calvin Sep 2017 #130

A fee to access content is not uncommon for online publications, lapucelle Sep 2017 #133

Don't agree. Susan Calvin Sep 2017 #135

I perceive the Pulitzer Prize-winning Guardian lapucelle Sep 2017 #137

Um, that's what I said. Susan Calvin Sep 2017 #141

They do when they're not corporate. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #149

I think it's a bit more complex than it seems at first blush. lapucelle Sep 2017 #150

Important to note liberalmike27 Sep 2017 #117

He knows that Bill and Hillary are not the same person, right? LisaM Sep 2017 #2

how did you watch a 50 minute video in only three minutes? booley Sep 2017 #3

One only need to look at the opening credits to get the gist of the video. George II Sep 2017 #5

Try watching and learning a few things. elleng Sep 2017 #8

No thanks. George II Sep 2017 #10

Agree... sheshe2 Sep 2017 #81

"The Real News" lapucelle Sep 2017 #101

Real Snooze. sheshe2 Sep 2017 #103

So, give us a summary of the relevant points. (nt) ehrnst Sep 2017 #36

You mean like how she "attacks" Bernie? ehrnst Sep 2017 #48

I watched and my curiosity lapucelle Sep 2017 #98

Get out of here.... sheshe2 Sep 2017 #105

Would you like to make a contribution? lapucelle Sep 2017 #107

No thank ya... sheshe2 Sep 2017 #109

What I said.... nt Susan Calvin Sep 2017 #142

Closed minds.. Sad. 4bucksagallon Sep 2017 #124

Very sad. shanny Sep 2017 #126

+++++++ KPN Sep 2017 #131

When it starts out saying "the previous Clinton legacy" LisaM Sep 2017 #12

Precisely, one only needs to know who the person is to know the way the video is going to go. George II Sep 2017 #13

But don't you HAVE AN OPEN MIND???? ehrnst Sep 2017 #40

I'm familiar with Thomas Frank. That's all I need to know. For example... George II Sep 2017 #56

My point exactly. ehrnst Sep 2017 #60

Well, you could try to refute what he says. guillaumeb Sep 2017 #62

Why would I even consider refuting what someone I'm not interested in has to say? George II Sep 2017 #72

Why dismiss out of hand what you admit to not hearing? guillaumeb Sep 2017 #73

Because, as I said earlier, I'm familiar with his "work". George II Sep 2017 #80

Can you spell "sealioning", George? lapucelle Sep 2017 #104

Yes, which is why I basically gave up here: George II Sep 2017 #106

tee hee sheshe2 Sep 2017 #110

.... sheshe2 Sep 2017 #108

He says "Dems have occupied the WH 16 of the last 24 years" instead of repugs have... brush Sep 2017 #92

Yes, but it is lapucelle Sep 2017 #102

Well, clearly an unbiased and clear eyed presentation ehrnst Sep 2017 #37

Did you forget this: George II Sep 2017 #82

Once Again.... Me. Sep 2017 #57

It's far easier snipe at and use a "corrupt" established party than to do the work of building ehrnst Sep 2017 #66

The Fumes Of Hypocrisy Are Overwhelming Me. Sep 2017 #91

Yep, they don't want to do that work. They prefer a hostile takeover instead of having... brush Sep 2017 #94

I remember a time when Frank was a big deal around here. Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2017 #129

Can you elaborate? AtheistCrusader Sep 2017 #15

I disagree booley Sep 2017 #19

Perhaps 'splaining us on what the gist is that we are supposed ehrnst Sep 2017 #51

Getting 3 minutes and 58 seconds into it would have certainly confirmed your belief. Amimnoch Sep 2017 #28

Alrighty then. sheshe2 Sep 2017 #111

And not surprising..His entire premise is false... JHan Sep 2017 #115

Apparently not. (nt) ehrnst Sep 2017 #31

In both 2008 and 2016 Hillary Clinton was treated as Bill Clinton's wife running for president. StevieM Sep 2017 #50

Maybe instead of asking us to watch a 50 min video comradebillyboy Sep 2017 #7

But that would mean we were lazy.... ehrnst Sep 2017 #34

I need a better reason to give an hour of my time. comradebillyboy Sep 2017 #114

Lol. JHan Sep 2017 #9

WELL worth it. elleng Sep 2017 #11

Sigh booley Sep 2017 #20

and so much blind hatred around here! elleng Sep 2017 #21

Sigh. I those of us who don't rec are just too "dim" to get Frank's points. ehrnst Sep 2017 #59

Bernie is Everyman-progressive; Hillary is political-elite-neoliberal. That's why. Magoo48 Sep 2017 #14

I didn't watch the video either...eom Kolesar Sep 2017 #16

Yup. (nt) ehrnst Sep 2017 #33

At first I read Control-Z Sep 2017 #18

Enjoy your time here. I hope you like pizza. (nt) ehrnst Sep 2017 #32

I know - Planned Parenthood is totally about endorsing neoliberals. ehrnst Sep 2017 #88

bull fucking shit Skittles Sep 2017 #120

Three minutes in, Thomas Frank said he did not read the book Kolesar Sep 2017 #17

Frank has a lot zentrum Sep 2017 #24

Absolutely. elleng Sep 2017 #49

Seems to be he has a big problem w Bill Clinton, beyond that Hillary's not gracious enough. bettyellen Sep 2017 #85

Nasty woman lapucelle Sep 2017 #112

Then why did he cherry pick this: He says, "Dems have occupied the WH 16 of the last 24 yrs" instea brush Sep 2017 #95

Cite something Frank said in those next 56 minutes Kolesar Sep 2017 #128

Wow, that's a good point. LisaM Sep 2017 #39

You don't need to read her book to know that it ehrnst Sep 2017 #42

::dry:: ? ... eom Kolesar Sep 2017 #127

It was sarcasm. (nt) ehrnst Sep 2017 #139

Just got past page 100 and into the "Sisterhood" chapter Kolesar Sep 2017 #152

This message was self-deleted by its author jalan48 Sep 2017 #22

Thanks for the post and zentrum Sep 2017 #23

THIS is what so many younger DUers fail to grasp! Chasstev365 Sep 2017 #25

Over 3/4 of it was also the Age of the Dixiecrat delisen Sep 2017 #26

Wow: Are you saying the New Deal was bad for America? Chasstev365 Sep 2017 #30

It was great for men- the white ones. Only by extension to their wives and kids though. bettyellen Sep 2017 #35

Yeah - that golden age of labor was built on excluding women and POC ehrnst Sep 2017 #43

It was built on women and POC being exploited for grossly underpaid and or free labor.... bettyellen Sep 2017 #53

So, by all means - let's promise people a return to that utopia! ehrnst Sep 2017 #55

The New Deal was absolutely right for 1930s America. LisaM Sep 2017 #41

Yes. Women and POC sort of want to be a part of the workplace, ehrnst Sep 2017 #44

So let's get rid of collective bargaining, social security, the FDIC, Chasstev365 Sep 2017 #46

No one is saying that (though I'm not sure who you're responding to). LisaM Sep 2017 #54

You realize Obama was punished in the midterms for pushing through heathcare- higher taxes bettyellen Sep 2017 #63

It seems like the Scandanvian model of social democracy is being challenged by diversity... bettyellen Sep 2017 #75

Yeah, there's no sexism, racism, xenophobia there. All that affordable health care and wage equity ehrnst Sep 2017 #89

Wow. Straw man much? ehrnst Sep 2017 #58

Strawman? Project much? How did you turn this into a sexism issue? Chasstev365 Sep 2017 #61

You don't seem to understand that women and POC were left behind by the new deal- it widened the bettyellen Sep 2017 #65

Strawman coming in 3...2...1 ... (nt) ehrnst Sep 2017 #70

You must have found a sale on straw men!! ehrnst Sep 2017 #69

Yawn..... Chasstev365 Sep 2017 #76

No age is golden until we have freedom delisen Sep 2017 #64

You are correct Chasstev365 Sep 2017 #67

Lord knows we don't need freedom dismissed as "identity politics." (nt) ehrnst Sep 2017 #71

It was good for 1930s America. We have no idea of how it would be for 2010s America. George II Sep 2017 #116

When the DNC went corporate (and became republican lite) so many years ago roomtomove Sep 2017 #27

Careful: I got alerted for saying the very same thing! Chasstev365 Sep 2017 #29

Right, and they're saying it again, elleng Sep 2017 #52

we want to move forward, not go back Skittles Sep 2017 #121

Then people need to let go of Hillary, Bernie, and 2016! Chasstev365 Sep 2017 #134

Obama is the heart and soul of the Democratic party JI7 Sep 2017 #140

Neither is some Dems going along with tax cuts for the upper 1%, Chasstev365 Sep 2017 #143

The so called progressives who wanted to get rid of pelosi got behind that type of democrat JI7 Sep 2017 #144

Oh, please: claims that anyone who doesn't love the former Speaker or nominee is sexist is pathetic Chasstev365 Sep 2017 #145

Pathetic is denying sexism. Most white people voted for Reagan JI7 Sep 2017 #146

You are absolutely correct that many voted against Hillary because she is a woman Chasstev365 Sep 2017 #147

The support was lost because rights gained by minorities and women JI7 Sep 2017 #148

The title of your post just sort of tips one off on the POV. (nt) ehrnst Sep 2017 #45

"You can't blame her for her husbands deeds BUT...." and she's not gracious enough, LOL. bettyellen Sep 2017 #47

I'm not sexist, BUT..... (nt) ehrnst Sep 2017 #74

I'm not going to ignore her career as senator BUT..... bettyellen Sep 2017 #77

I'm not saying Planned Parenthood endorses Republican Lite, BUT... ehrnst Sep 2017 #86

I watched the 50 minute video. guillaumeb Sep 2017 #68

100%. It is an excellent history & outline of the current challenges/factions dividing our Party. stuffmatters Sep 2017 #83

I agree. In addition, as regualrs at Du can witness on a daily basis, guillaumeb Sep 2017 #99

Did Frank ever get off the schtick about "graciousness"? Or Bill? bettyellen Sep 2017 #84

He did talk about the "perception" of the candidates, guillaumeb Sep 2017 #100

Interesting he wouldn't notice his own gratuitous comments on her congeniality... bettyellen Sep 2017 #113

I agree, which is also why I mentioned the topic. guillaumeb Sep 2017 #132

the past 18 months have been an eye opener. So many people completely unaware of their sexist crap. bettyellen Sep 2017 #138

Wrong, the Clinton philosophy was NOT breaking the Democrats away from the New Deal Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #78

But did you watch the VIDEO?? It was SO TOTALLY TRUE ehrnst Sep 2017 #87

Bookmarking MuseRider Sep 2017 #79

Watched it; WELL worth it... bagelsforbreakfast Sep 2017 #90

Thomas frank had nothing to say about Charlottesville JI7 Sep 2017 #93

Yep. All the Republicans would have to say to defeat a Bernie/Frank agenda is say this Yavin4 Sep 2017 #96

or they are just accepted Skittles Sep 2017 #122

This thread liberalmike27 Sep 2017 #118

Bingo! Quixote1818 Sep 2017 #119

We need to not be intimidated by ignorance and hatred and stay and defend New Deal democracy LiberalLovinLug Sep 2017 #136

These two books have sure been divisive. PatrickforO Sep 2017 #151