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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
69. You must have found a sale on straw men!!
Fri Sep 8, 2017, 07:07 PM
Sep 2017

And red herrings!

I pointed out your strawman, and explained, and you doubled down. That took some cojones!





Link, please? The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2017 #1
doesnt' the video show up for you? booley Sep 2017 #4
I thought there was a text article- never mind! The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2017 #6
Here is a Link to Real News as well as video link NWProf Sep 2017 #38
"The Real News"? lapucelle Sep 2017 #97
Are you not familiar with Thomas Frank? Zen Democrat Sep 2017 #123
Did Thomas Frank wind up voting for Jill Stein? lapucelle Sep 2017 #125
Well, I know at least one real news organization Susan Calvin Sep 2017 #130
A fee to access content is not uncommon for online publications, lapucelle Sep 2017 #133
Don't agree. Susan Calvin Sep 2017 #135
I perceive the Pulitzer Prize-winning Guardian lapucelle Sep 2017 #137
Um, that's what I said. Susan Calvin Sep 2017 #141
They do when they're not corporate. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #149
I think it's a bit more complex than it seems at first blush. lapucelle Sep 2017 #150
Important to note liberalmike27 Sep 2017 #117
He knows that Bill and Hillary are not the same person, right? LisaM Sep 2017 #2
how did you watch a 50 minute video in only three minutes? booley Sep 2017 #3
One only need to look at the opening credits to get the gist of the video. George II Sep 2017 #5
Try watching and learning a few things. elleng Sep 2017 #8
No thanks. George II Sep 2017 #10
Agree... sheshe2 Sep 2017 #81
"The Real News" lapucelle Sep 2017 #101
Real Snooze. sheshe2 Sep 2017 #103
So, give us a summary of the relevant points. (nt) ehrnst Sep 2017 #36
You mean like how she "attacks" Bernie? ehrnst Sep 2017 #48
I watched and my curiosity lapucelle Sep 2017 #98
Get out of here.... sheshe2 Sep 2017 #105
Would you like to make a contribution? lapucelle Sep 2017 #107
No thank ya... sheshe2 Sep 2017 #109
What I said.... nt Susan Calvin Sep 2017 #142
Closed minds.. Sad. 4bucksagallon Sep 2017 #124
Very sad. shanny Sep 2017 #126
+++++++ KPN Sep 2017 #131
When it starts out saying "the previous Clinton legacy" LisaM Sep 2017 #12
Precisely, one only needs to know who the person is to know the way the video is going to go. George II Sep 2017 #13
But don't you HAVE AN OPEN MIND???? ehrnst Sep 2017 #40
I'm familiar with Thomas Frank. That's all I need to know. For example... George II Sep 2017 #56
My point exactly. ehrnst Sep 2017 #60
Well, you could try to refute what he says. guillaumeb Sep 2017 #62
Why would I even consider refuting what someone I'm not interested in has to say? George II Sep 2017 #72
Why dismiss out of hand what you admit to not hearing? guillaumeb Sep 2017 #73
Because, as I said earlier, I'm familiar with his "work". George II Sep 2017 #80
Can you spell "sealioning", George? lapucelle Sep 2017 #104
Yes, which is why I basically gave up here: George II Sep 2017 #106
tee hee sheshe2 Sep 2017 #110
.... sheshe2 Sep 2017 #108
He says "Dems have occupied the WH 16 of the last 24 years" instead of repugs have... brush Sep 2017 #92
Yes, but it is lapucelle Sep 2017 #102
Well, clearly an unbiased and clear eyed presentation ehrnst Sep 2017 #37
Did you forget this: George II Sep 2017 #82
Once Again.... Me. Sep 2017 #57
It's far easier snipe at and use a "corrupt" established party than to do the work of building ehrnst Sep 2017 #66
The Fumes Of Hypocrisy Are Overwhelming Me. Sep 2017 #91
Yep, they don't want to do that work. They prefer a hostile takeover instead of having... brush Sep 2017 #94
I remember a time when Frank was a big deal around here. Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2017 #129
Can you elaborate? AtheistCrusader Sep 2017 #15
I disagree booley Sep 2017 #19
Perhaps 'splaining us on what the gist is that we are supposed ehrnst Sep 2017 #51
Getting 3 minutes and 58 seconds into it would have certainly confirmed your belief. Amimnoch Sep 2017 #28
Alrighty then. sheshe2 Sep 2017 #111
And not surprising..His entire premise is false... JHan Sep 2017 #115
Apparently not. (nt) ehrnst Sep 2017 #31
In both 2008 and 2016 Hillary Clinton was treated as Bill Clinton's wife running for president. StevieM Sep 2017 #50
Maybe instead of asking us to watch a 50 min video comradebillyboy Sep 2017 #7
But that would mean we were lazy.... ehrnst Sep 2017 #34
I need a better reason to give an hour of my time. comradebillyboy Sep 2017 #114
Lol. JHan Sep 2017 #9
WELL worth it. elleng Sep 2017 #11
Sigh booley Sep 2017 #20
and so much blind hatred around here! elleng Sep 2017 #21
Sigh. I those of us who don't rec are just too "dim" to get Frank's points. ehrnst Sep 2017 #59
Bernie is Everyman-progressive; Hillary is political-elite-neoliberal. That's why. Magoo48 Sep 2017 #14
I didn't watch the video either...eom Kolesar Sep 2017 #16
Yup. (nt) ehrnst Sep 2017 #33
At first I read Control-Z Sep 2017 #18
Enjoy your time here. I hope you like pizza. (nt) ehrnst Sep 2017 #32
I know - Planned Parenthood is totally about endorsing neoliberals. ehrnst Sep 2017 #88
bull fucking shit Skittles Sep 2017 #120
Three minutes in, Thomas Frank said he did not read the book Kolesar Sep 2017 #17
Frank has a lot zentrum Sep 2017 #24
Absolutely. elleng Sep 2017 #49
Seems to be he has a big problem w Bill Clinton, beyond that Hillary's not gracious enough. bettyellen Sep 2017 #85
Nasty woman lapucelle Sep 2017 #112
Then why did he cherry pick this: He says, "Dems have occupied the WH 16 of the last 24 yrs" instea brush Sep 2017 #95
Cite something Frank said in those next 56 minutes Kolesar Sep 2017 #128
Wow, that's a good point. LisaM Sep 2017 #39
You don't need to read her book to know that it ehrnst Sep 2017 #42
::dry:: ? ... eom Kolesar Sep 2017 #127
It was sarcasm. (nt) ehrnst Sep 2017 #139
Just got past page 100 and into the "Sisterhood" chapter Kolesar Sep 2017 #152
This message was self-deleted by its author jalan48 Sep 2017 #22
Thanks for the post and zentrum Sep 2017 #23
THIS is what so many younger DUers fail to grasp! Chasstev365 Sep 2017 #25
Over 3/4 of it was also the Age of the Dixiecrat delisen Sep 2017 #26
Wow: Are you saying the New Deal was bad for America? Chasstev365 Sep 2017 #30
It was great for men- the white ones. Only by extension to their wives and kids though. bettyellen Sep 2017 #35
Yeah - that golden age of labor was built on excluding women and POC ehrnst Sep 2017 #43
It was built on women and POC being exploited for grossly underpaid and or free labor.... bettyellen Sep 2017 #53
So, by all means - let's promise people a return to that utopia! ehrnst Sep 2017 #55
The New Deal was absolutely right for 1930s America. LisaM Sep 2017 #41
Yes. Women and POC sort of want to be a part of the workplace, ehrnst Sep 2017 #44
So let's get rid of collective bargaining, social security, the FDIC, Chasstev365 Sep 2017 #46
No one is saying that (though I'm not sure who you're responding to). LisaM Sep 2017 #54
You realize Obama was punished in the midterms for pushing through heathcare- higher taxes bettyellen Sep 2017 #63
It seems like the Scandanvian model of social democracy is being challenged by diversity... bettyellen Sep 2017 #75
Yeah, there's no sexism, racism, xenophobia there. All that affordable health care and wage equity ehrnst Sep 2017 #89
Wow. Straw man much? ehrnst Sep 2017 #58
Strawman? Project much? How did you turn this into a sexism issue? Chasstev365 Sep 2017 #61
You don't seem to understand that women and POC were left behind by the new deal- it widened the bettyellen Sep 2017 #65
Strawman coming in 3...2...1 ... (nt) ehrnst Sep 2017 #70
You must have found a sale on straw men!! ehrnst Sep 2017 #69
Yawn..... Chasstev365 Sep 2017 #76
No age is golden until we have freedom delisen Sep 2017 #64
You are correct Chasstev365 Sep 2017 #67
Lord knows we don't need freedom dismissed as "identity politics." (nt) ehrnst Sep 2017 #71
It was good for 1930s America. We have no idea of how it would be for 2010s America. George II Sep 2017 #116
When the DNC went corporate (and became republican lite) so many years ago roomtomove Sep 2017 #27
Careful: I got alerted for saying the very same thing! Chasstev365 Sep 2017 #29
Right, and they're saying it again, elleng Sep 2017 #52
we want to move forward, not go back Skittles Sep 2017 #121
Then people need to let go of Hillary, Bernie, and 2016! Chasstev365 Sep 2017 #134
Obama is the heart and soul of the Democratic party JI7 Sep 2017 #140
Neither is some Dems going along with tax cuts for the upper 1%, Chasstev365 Sep 2017 #143
The so called progressives who wanted to get rid of pelosi got behind that type of democrat JI7 Sep 2017 #144
Oh, please: claims that anyone who doesn't love the former Speaker or nominee is sexist is pathetic Chasstev365 Sep 2017 #145
Pathetic is denying sexism. Most white people voted for Reagan JI7 Sep 2017 #146
You are absolutely correct that many voted against Hillary because she is a woman Chasstev365 Sep 2017 #147
The support was lost because rights gained by minorities and women JI7 Sep 2017 #148
The title of your post just sort of tips one off on the POV. (nt) ehrnst Sep 2017 #45
"You can't blame her for her husbands deeds BUT...." and she's not gracious enough, LOL. bettyellen Sep 2017 #47
I'm not sexist, BUT..... (nt) ehrnst Sep 2017 #74
I'm not going to ignore her career as senator BUT..... bettyellen Sep 2017 #77
I'm not saying Planned Parenthood endorses Republican Lite, BUT... ehrnst Sep 2017 #86
I watched the 50 minute video. guillaumeb Sep 2017 #68
100%. It is an excellent history & outline of the current challenges/factions dividing our Party. stuffmatters Sep 2017 #83
I agree. In addition, as regualrs at Du can witness on a daily basis, guillaumeb Sep 2017 #99
Did Frank ever get off the schtick about "graciousness"? Or Bill? bettyellen Sep 2017 #84
He did talk about the "perception" of the candidates, guillaumeb Sep 2017 #100
Interesting he wouldn't notice his own gratuitous comments on her congeniality... bettyellen Sep 2017 #113
I agree, which is also why I mentioned the topic. guillaumeb Sep 2017 #132
the past 18 months have been an eye opener. So many people completely unaware of their sexist crap. bettyellen Sep 2017 #138
Wrong, the Clinton philosophy was NOT breaking the Democrats away from the New Deal Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #78
But did you watch the VIDEO?? It was SO TOTALLY TRUE ehrnst Sep 2017 #87
Bookmarking MuseRider Sep 2017 #79
Watched it; WELL worth it... bagelsforbreakfast Sep 2017 #90
Thomas frank had nothing to say about Charlottesville JI7 Sep 2017 #93
Yep. All the Republicans would have to say to defeat a Bernie/Frank agenda is say this Yavin4 Sep 2017 #96
or they are just accepted Skittles Sep 2017 #122
This thread liberalmike27 Sep 2017 #118
Bingo! Quixote1818 Sep 2017 #119
We need to not be intimidated by ignorance and hatred and stay and defend New Deal democracy LiberalLovinLug Sep 2017 #136
These two books have sure been divisive. PatrickforO Sep 2017 #151
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