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Major Nikon

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58. Efficacy =/ effective

Sat May 28, 2016, 03:36 PM

May 2016

That's kind of my whole point.

Just because something is effective in achieving a desired outcome doesn't mean it has the ability to produce the desired outcomes.

So while all sorts of placebos are effective, that doesn't mean they have efficacy.

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Trump's use of hypnotic language [View all] Uncle Joe May 2016 OP

This is why Trump will TROUNCE Hillary unless Dems nominate BERNIE SANDERS zebonaut May 2016 #1

Exactly TryLogic May 2016 #21

You're calling for the superdelegates to defy the will of the people? Dr Hobbitstein May 2016 #52

The will of the people is already being defied 13Dogs May 2016 #57

In your scenario, the will of the people still goes to Hillary. Dr Hobbitstein May 2016 #64

The will of the machines could pick Trump. Spitfire of ATJ May 2016 #73

She has about 93% of the super d's who have comiitrd and Bernie has about 7% of them CentralMass May 2016 #76

There's no evidence of the efficacy of hypnosis even on fully willing subjects Major Nikon May 2016 #2

Hypnosis works and demagoguery depends on it. Uncle Joe May 2016 #4

Demagoguery depends on emotion, not voodoo Major Nikon May 2016 #39

Hypnosis is what Adams brought up as his own qualification. Jesus Malverde May 2016 #74

Trump is not using hypnosis. He's using hypnotic techniques. Both work but big difference. Bernardo de La Paz May 2016 #7

"hypnotic techniques" require relaxation as a precursor Major Nikon May 2016 #13

Yes he did. Uncle Joe May 2016 #15

Well you've certainly provided incontrovertible proof there Major Nikon May 2016 #20

They controlled all aspects of Germany's mass media Uncle Joe May 2016 #24

Well that certainly clinches it. Who can argue with NaturalNews? Major Nikon May 2016 #28

Here you go, if you want scholarly articles, have at it. Uncle Joe May 2016 #33

That also works with lots of other things Major Nikon May 2016 #36

Don't over emphasize "hypnotic". Trump is using clever and effective persuasive techniques to attack TryLogic May 2016 #25

As I said, he's simply a demagogue. No voodoo is involved. Major Nikon May 2016 #31

He is appealing to the 'conservatives' fear, anger, bigotry and loss of control ToxMarz May 2016 #32

Relaxation of the mental muscles, not the body. Bernardo de La Paz May 2016 #38

Active and trance are contradictory Major Nikon May 2016 #41

Nope. He does entrance them, plants nicknames & reinforces their lack of critical thinking Bernardo de La Paz May 2016 #44

This message was self-deleted by its author Bernardo de La Paz May 2016 #45

Do some research before you dismiss the idea of active trance-like states. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2016 #46

People can be convinced to pray, die for the 1%, and smoke cigarettes. People valerief May 2016 #40

Sure, voodoo is another method of achieving those ends Major Nikon May 2016 #43

Depends how you define efficacy basselope May 2016 #50

Efficacy =/ effective Major Nikon May 2016 #58

You are misusing the term. basselope May 2016 #59

You are completely misunderstanding the term Major Nikon May 2016 #63

Uh, people pray, die for the 1%, and smoke cigarettes. I'd say brainwashing is very effective. nt valerief May 2016 #53

This guy doesn't know what he's talking about.Trump is just a bafoon stirring up hate. bjobotts May 2016 #69

You can't make shit up this funny Major Nikon May 2016 #70

Adams says Trump's use of "coded" language hypnotically validates their need for "good old days" ancianita May 2016 #3

Adams forecast a landslide win for Trump in the Iowa caucus. Jim__ May 2016 #5

Adams doesn't support Trump but he predicted that Trump will win the Presidency because of his Uncle Joe May 2016 #6

Way cool. Thanks for this video. Hillary campaign speech writers should see this. ancianita May 2016 #17

Bernie and Hillary should be aware, whichever one becomes the nominee. Uncle Joe May 2016 #19

LOL. Yes, that's right. Trump is a master "hypnotist" casting his spell upon us!!11!1! PSPS May 2016 #8

There are differences between hypnosis and placebos but placebos have power over the mind as well, Uncle Joe May 2016 #11

Key words stay in the collective hive mind. Not hypnotism, but pretty close! ancianita May 2016 #18

... but ... but ... They say BERNIE does it, too !! Hiraeth May 2016 #9

Bernie doesn't repeat the same exact phrase multiple times in the same speech. Furthermore Uncle Joe May 2016 #12

but, THEY say it. It must be true, Uncle Joe. Hiraeth May 2016 #14

That segment scared the shit out of me. Soxfan58 May 2016 #10

Also Trump is very charismatic d_legendary1 May 2016 #16

He's not charismatic to everyone passiveporcupine May 2016 #55

Stop believing all this trash Perseus May 2016 #22

I totally agree with your post regarding the need to elect Bernie but ignoring or downplaying Uncle Joe May 2016 #30

I am not suggesting for Bernie to ignore Trump Perseus May 2016 #71

I don't view hypnotic speech or hypnosis as magic, just an acquired skill. Uncle Joe May 2016 #72

Too Bad Bern Lost to Hillary, heh? Cryptoad May 2016 #23

1. The Democratic Primaries aren't over despite your fervent wishes to the contrary. Uncle Joe May 2016 #26

Primaries not over, but Bern has lost,,,,, Cryptoad May 2016 #27

Hillary should drop out. Spitfire of ATJ May 2016 #60

Abt 17 million Democratic voters say,,,,,,,Nah! Cryptoad May 2016 #67

. underpants May 2016 #29

That video is most apropos, Trump is a chicken. Uncle Joe May 2016 #34

It's bad hypnosis Laughing Mirror May 2016 #35

The subconscious is like the auto-pilot on an airplane, you can program it with instructions Uncle Joe May 2016 #37

It can also make you habitually smoke or eat poorly, for example Laughing Mirror May 2016 #42

I had a friend, Uncle Joe May 2016 #48

It's wonderful to know those techniques to help people in distress Laughing Mirror May 2016 #56

That's a good idea, Laughing Mirror. Uncle Joe May 2016 #61

LSD and suggestion help, per Dr. Sidney Gottlieb, MD, CIA. Octafish May 2016 #47

Fascinating read. Uncle Joe May 2016 #49

You are most welcome, Uncle Joe! Thank you for an outstanding OP and thread! Octafish May 2016 #51

Exactly, he knows what he's doing, if not hypnotic, but by repetition of RKP5637 May 2016 #54

Hypnotic perhaps if you're receptive. More like finger nails on a chalkboard to me. n/t Lodestar May 2016 #62

“Dangerous Donald” should be our nickname for Donald Trump. jimmyzvoice May 2016 #65

IDK About Hypnosis Bigredhunk May 2016 #66

they really are so much better at this than we are dembotoz May 2016 #68

Interesting observations by Adams, thanks...nt Jesus Malverde May 2016 #75