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AdHocSolver

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18. There are two sets of interest rates involved here.
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 11:56 PM
Mar 2015

There is the interest paid to savers, that is, interest paid to depositors who put money into interest bearing accounts.

The bank pays depositors for the use of the depositors' money, which is then used to lend to borrowers.

On the other hand, there is the interest charged by the bank to borrowers. The banks don't lend "their own money" to borrowers, but in fact are lending depositors' money to borrowers. The diffence between what the bank pays to depositors for the use of the depositors' money, and what the bank charges borrowers that they lend it to is essentially a fee to borrowers and provides the bank with its profits.

The Federal Reserve sets both types of interest rates through a jumble of arcane monetary manipulations. Currently, the interest rates on deposits is around 0.1 percent (or .001), while interest on credit card balances is around 14 percent. This constitutes a "spread" of 14 percent / 0.1 percent = .14 / .001 = 140 times. Not too many years ago, bank savings deposits were paid 2 or 3 percent interest for a spread of, for example, .14 / .02 = 7 times.

In effect, these days, if middle class credit card users aren't paying off their credit card balances quickly, they are paying the banks usurious rates to borrow their own money.

The interest rates that the Fed traditionally raised were the rates charged to borrowers. They used to allow interest rates paid on deposits to rise as an excuse for raising the rates on borrowers, but recent history has shown that there is no penalty for cheating depositors.

The real reason for the Fed raising interest rates on borrowers was to strangle the economy when it approached full, or near full, employment. Full employment means that employers have to offer higher wages and better working conditions to attract a smaller pool of unemployed people.

With governments promoting higher minimum wages, and a smaller pool of desperate job seekers, the plutocrats are looking to the Fed to perform its traditional role of strangling the economy.

To improve the economy, two interest rates should be adjusted. Interest paid to depositors (savers) should be raised so at least to approximate inflation, and interest charged on credit card balances and student loans should be lowered so that the middle class can afford to spend more on goods and services, thereby contributing to the economy, rather than just providing the banks with huge profits.

Professor Wolff is referring to the interest rates charged to borrowers. My comments referred to both sets of interest rates. However, I didn't explain with enough detail. I hope this post helps.

So glad to see multiple OPs featuring Professor Richard Wolff. chervilant Mar 2015 #1
The Walmart Klan seems to be doing spiffy. eom wolfie001 Mar 2015 #2
TY, for adding your voice, chervilant, your story is one of many. Too many people are struggling mother earth Mar 2015 #12
would you classify Wolff as a Troskyite? uhnope Mar 2015 #3
I don't practice McCarthyism. You'll have to do some research for your questions, mother earth Mar 2015 #5
It's bizarre when someone won't answer basic questions about a subject they constantly post about uhnope Mar 2015 #6
Third request. nt mother earth Mar 2015 #7
A harmless kook? chervilant Mar 2015 #20
the latter. No, both. nt uhnope Mar 2015 #21
Never feed the trolls, they will follow again and again, tis best to send them off and be done with mother earth Mar 2015 #22
Actually, chervilant Mar 2015 #23
We sure do, and we sure see it when it takes place. mother earth Mar 2015 #24
Economics is gobbledygook. DeSwiss Mar 2015 #4
There are economic principles that explain how economies function. AdHocSolver Mar 2015 #13
I agree with all you say, except..... DeSwiss Mar 2015 #14
Unions The Jungle 1 Mar 2015 #8
Exactly, TY for bringing up the unions. mother earth Mar 2015 #10
Thanks HatTrick Mar 2015 #9
It is my absolute pleasure to bring these OP's here, I applaud Prof. Wolff's work and intend to mother earth Mar 2015 #11
, blkmusclmachine Mar 2015 #15
Prof. Wolff's advice about how the Fed should deal with interest rates is wrong. AdHocSolver Mar 2015 #16
Which part of the interview are you referring to, I reread and didn't zero in on it. Is your mother earth Mar 2015 #17
There are two sets of interest rates involved here. AdHocSolver Mar 2015 #18
I've heard him speak about interest rates on savings accounts and he also calls out this practice of mother earth Mar 2015 #19
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