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proverbialwisdom

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Fri Sep 26, 2014, 03:56 AM
Sep 2014
http://www.ageofautism.com/2014/09/tomfoolery-over-the-cdc-whistleblower-insel-reacts-at-the-iacc.html

Dangling by a Thread in Washington: Insel Prevaricates Over the CDC Whistleblower

By John Stone
September 25, 2014


"I wish I knew more about that particular instance."

The excuses are wearing thin. Here is a transcript of the remarks of Thomas Insel, National Institute of Mental Health director, regarding the whistleblowing activities of Centers for Disease Control employee William Thompson at the Interagency Autism Coordinating Committee meeting two days ago (view video here.):

“Again this is not for the IACC since that committee is not here in full. This is not a meeting to decide anything we are going to do in regard to policy and I wish I knew more about that particular instance. I don’t. I can tell you that the 2004 PEDIATRICS paper was one of about fourteen papers in the IOM (Institute of Medicine) review and there have been another multiple papers since then that have weighed in on this all of which the IOM have said in 2011 are consistent with not finding a relationship between vaccination and autism. What the IOM doesn’t say and what nobody has said in a way that I find intelligible (?) is that there could still be the rare cases in which that could occur and what we need to think about is how one would investigate that if that were the case.”

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However, when Insel reverts to the IOM review he demonstrates his weakness.

John Stone is UK Editor for Age of Autism.
Posted by Age of Autism at September 25, 2014


COMMENTS

Posted by: Jim Moody | September 25, 2014 at 06:30 PM

The IOM has NOT dismissed MMR-autism causation based upon CDC’s “fourteen studies.” The IOM 2012 report on vaccine adverse events specifically looked at whether MMR can cause “secondary autism.” (http://www.iom.edu/~/media/Files/Activity%20Files/Research/VaccineAdvEffectReview/Working-List-of-AEs-January-10.pdf) “‘Secondary’ autism or autistic features arising from chronic encephalopathy, mitochondrial disorders and/or other underlying disorders will be considered by the Committee. For “Primary” autism, VICP has asked the IOM to consider the review of the medical literature post Immunization Safety Review: Vaccines and Autism (2004) report. In particular, VICP is interested in the Committee’s review on more recent theories of ‘neuroinflammation’ and ‘hyperarousal/overexcitation of the immune system via multiple simultaneous antigenic stimulation.’”

IOM actually considered 22 studies in examining evidence of causality between MMR and autism. (http://www.commed.vcu.edu/IntroPH/Communicable_Disease/2012/adverseffectsVaccines.pdf page 145). IOM REJECTED 12 of these studies, i.e. they “were not considered in the weight of epidemiological evidence because they provided data from a passive surveillance system lacking an unvaccinated comparison population or an ecological comparison study lacking individual-level data.” IOM REJECTED five more of these studies, ironically including the now infamous DeStefano (2004), because they “had very serious methodological limitations that precluded their inclusion in this assessment.” Left with only five studies, they waffled, concluding that the available evidence “favors rejection” of a causal association. It will take a comprehensive, rigorous, and “beyond reproach” vaccinated vs. unvaccinated comparison to finally, and scientifically, resolve the causation issue. Oh, but Dr. Insel illegally blocked such a study at a January, 2009 IACC meeting. Given the collapse of CDC’s “studies” supposedly exonerating MMR, it is little wonder that CDC ordered IOM not to even look at the evolving mercury science. IOM’s rejection of CDC’s contrived “studies” exonerating mercury would have been considerably more harsh.

Second, Dr. Insel has obviously "forgotten" that IOM DID actually make a finding way back in 2004 that “rare” (another waffle word) autism cases could be caused by vaccines. The 2004 ISR report concluded in part: “A genetically susceptible subset of children who develop autism following vaccinations is offered as one theoretical explanation for the findings in epidemiological studies of no association between vaccination and autism. . . . Absent biomarkers, well-defined risk factors, or large effect sizes, the committee cannot rule out, based on the epidemiological evidence, the possibility that vaccines contribute to autism in some small subset or very unusual circumstances.” (http://books.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=10997 pp. 8, 11).

Dr. Insel has defied the express command of Congress to find the “cause (including possible environmental causes) . . . prevention . . . and treatment” for autism. The legislative history made absolutely clear that he was to research vaccines as cause. He has worked tireless to ignore this mandate and deny any role for vaccines and autism causation, most especially by blocking research on biological mechanism and on the rate of autism in unvaccinated children. Such deliberate ignorance leads to denial, and now to coverup – yet science will continue to reveal the truth; not whether vaccines cause autism, a settled question, but how much autism they have caused.
What bullshit. cab67 Sep 2014 #1
What's your background? Here's a statement by the CDC scientist in the video. proverbialwisdom Sep 2014 #2
Beyond my basic literacy and ability to read the peer-reviewed literature, cab67 Sep 2014 #3
This post sounds like a different person wrote it, as contrasted with the earlier remarks. proverbialwisdom Sep 2014 #4
This is consistent with my earlier statement. cab67 Sep 2014 #5
Familiar with this? I apologize for the graphics in the video, maybe just close your eyes and listen proverbialwisdom Sep 2014 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author truedelphi Sep 2014 #7
The formaldehyde issue is a non-issue. cab67 Sep 2014 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author truedelphi Sep 2014 #9
You're using a straw man argument cab67 Sep 2014 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author truedelphi Sep 2014 #12
You did mischaracterize my argument. cab67 Sep 2014 #14
Well, then we're done, as it was proven that mercury and formaldehyde were undesirable in terms of truedelphi Sep 2014 #15
This thread is about statements by whistleblower Dr. William Thompson on his own CDC research career proverbialwisdom Sep 2014 #10
And the methodology that is used here is exactly as that described in truedelphi Sep 2014 #13
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IMO, 'supportive' posts containing multiple incorrect and unsourced statements are counterproductive proverbialwisdom Sep 2014 #21
RE: "It would be interesting to see how they match up with everything else..." proverbialwisdom Sep 2014 #22
You might be interested in this summary. proverbialwisdom Sep 2014 #23
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