"Orthodoxy means not thinking—not needing to think. Orthodoxy is unconsciousness." George Orwell (Reply #26)

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26. "Orthodoxy means not thinking—not needing to think. Orthodoxy is unconsciousness." George Orwell

I may be wrong, but I believe most of those defending the indefensible, are beyond hope. They won't recognize their cognitive dissonance even after they change back to to their 2007 belief system when the government changes hands again in the future.

But I'm glad you're trying.

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68 replies	Author	Time	Post
CEO Who Resisted NSA Spying Out Of Prison, Vindicated By Snowden [View all]	zeemike	Apr 2014	OP
I wasn't aware of this.. thanks for bringing it to my attention. n/t	2banon	Apr 2014	#1
I wasn't either.	zeemike	Apr 2014	#2
+1	2banon	Apr 2014	#10
Interview: Thomas Drake, pre-Snowden NSA whistleblower	cprise	Apr 2014	#68
That's the way it works.	PeoViejo	Apr 2014	#3
I wish I could rec this a thousand times. I wish I were that sure that he was blameless	Demeter	Apr 2014	#4
K & R	Mbrow	Apr 2014	#5
Post removed	Post removed	Apr 2014	#6
Don't break your arm congratulating your conformist / authoritarian self just	20score	Apr 2014	#7
Firebagger/Naterite logic: Being against crooked CEOs = conformist/authoritarian	ConservativeDemocrat	Apr 2014	#12
I see, "Reality Based Community" is meant ironically.	20score	Apr 2014	#15
So True	hueymahl	Apr 2014	#33
This.	Jamaal510	Apr 2014	#21
I agree...	reACTIONary	Apr 2014	#24
Holy shit! Were you asleep during the Bush Administration?	20score	Apr 2014	#28
Are you calling other DU posters, "Firebaggers and Naderites?" Is this whining?	rhett o rick	Apr 2014	#44
Nacchio's experience answers your question.	JDPriestly	Apr 2014	#49
Some people just don't believe it is wrong	zeemike	Apr 2014	#14
I believe it's wrong to break the law, as this asshat did...	Dr Hobbitstein	Apr 2014	#18
But not wrong for the government to break the law	zeemike	Apr 2014	#20
I was and still am very much against the warrantless wiretapping	Dr Hobbitstein	Apr 2014	#41
Time Magazine is to Truth in about the same proportion that	truedelphi	Apr 2014	#23
Let me see . . .	Jack Rabbit	Apr 2014	#29
Have you watched the interview by Bartolucci with Naccio? Post 13.	JDPriestly	Apr 2014	#37
Hi JD. I'm willing to give anyone a shot if the facts bear it out, but flat out, this doesn't do it	ConservativeDemocrat	Apr 2014	#39
In other words you side with George Bush. nm	rhett o rick	Apr 2014	#45
So why did the government claim that evidence should be excluded from the trial due to	JDPriestly	Apr 2014	#50
''Obama's NSA.''	DeSwiss	Apr 2014	#8
Happened under Bush...	Dr Hobbitstein	Apr 2014	#9
Watch his interview with Maria Bartolucci (hope I got the name right) in Post # 13.	JDPriestly	Apr 2014	#38
You are in poor company. George Bush thinks he is a crook also. He didnt fool you too? nm	rhett o rick	Apr 2014	#46
Talk about strawmen...	Dr Hobbitstein	Apr 2014	#54
This person is a crook who deserved prison for longer then he got	nakocal	Apr 2014	#11
Facts aren't welcome here when talking about the NSA...	Dr Hobbitstein	Apr 2014	#16
This occurred BEFORE the patriot act.	zeemike	Apr 2014	#17
Partriot Act was passed in 2002...	Dr Hobbitstein	Apr 2014	#19
It is not just his claim...	zeemike	Apr 2014	#22
So you are saying that you side with the Bush administration. nm	rhett o rick	Apr 2014	#47
On convicting this criminal?	Dr Hobbitstein	Apr 2014	#53
The government should have honored Nacchio's request and allowed him to	JDPriestly	Apr 2014	#51
His first conviction was overturned...	Dr Hobbitstein	Apr 2014	#55
"Orthodoxy means not thinking—not needing to think. Orthodoxy is unconsciousness." George Orwell	20score	Apr 2014	#26
+10, and...	reACTIONary	Apr 2014	#25
What massive corruption? And part of why he went to jail was for almost destroying a company?	cui bono	Apr 2014	#27
He was CEO of Qwest Communications...	Dr Hobbitstein	Apr 2014	#42
Insider trading is what Bush accused him of. You seem to be on the wrong side of history here. nm	rhett o rick	Apr 2014	#48
What the fuck is your hardon for this guy?	Dr Hobbitstein	Apr 2014	#56
What is yours?	cui bono	Apr 2014	#57
Qwest was NEVER a clean company...	Dr Hobbitstein	Apr 2014	#60
Disregarding your rudeness, I think he was set-up.	rhett o rick	Apr 2014	#61
Project much?	Dr Hobbitstein	Apr 2014	#64
It's just my opinion but I think you are in the wrong message board.	rhett o rick	Apr 2014	#65
Longtime Democrats don't belong on Democratic Underground?	Dr Hobbitstein	Apr 2014	#66
Maria Bartiromo did a lengthy interview with him last week. Very interesting. Link:	7962	Apr 2014	#13
Thank you for posting this.	JDPriestly	Apr 2014	#35
No, I didnt post it elsewhere; I didnt think about it till it was too late for "breaking news".	7962	Apr 2014	#40
K&R. We DUErs knew about this a number of years ago. I remember this case clearly.	JDPriestly	Apr 2014	#30
I was here then but I missed it.	zeemike	Apr 2014	#31
K & R !!!	WillyT	Apr 2014	#32
I do remember this story as it happened. K&R.	20score	Apr 2014	#34
"Before 911." This post should have hundreds of recommendations.	Enthusiast	Apr 2014	#36
The PNAC crowd just had to wait a couple months for their catalyzing event. /nt	jakeXT	Apr 2014	#58
That 2000 "election" was a coup.	Enthusiast	Apr 2014	#59
I agree that there has been a "coup". I believe those that took control still have control. nm	rhett o rick	Apr 2014	#62
That's two of us. There are many more.	Enthusiast	Apr 2014	#63
He told them to piss off. They had to make an example of him.	GoneFishin	Apr 2014	#43
I knew about him	Warpy	Apr 2014	#52
K&R	cprise	Apr 2014	#67

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