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83. Whe were these secure complexes built?

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Mon Jun 10, 2013, 08:34 PM

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Pic of the Moment: Welcome to the Surveillance State [View all] Skinner Jun 2013 OP

Yep, technology has improved and more means of survellience and it is here for a while. Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #1

Bury your computer in the woods and don't leave the house. East Coast Pirate Jun 2013 #11

+1 Ms. Toad Jun 2013 #22

Not me, don't care how much data they collect on me, I am not watching outside Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #67

It's all very boring until someone gets into power who has a real thing against boring people. Kurovski Jun 2013 #90

I would not think it boring if terrorist attacks never happened again. I quiet well understand when Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #97

intel gathering can be done with proper oversite and accountability. Kurovski Jun 2013 #105

"As long as I got my gun I can be perfectly content as a slave in a fascist state." reusrename Jun 2013 #96

Just make sure you stay that way no matter who's in control or what they do think Jun 2013 #102

United we stand divided we fall Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #103

This does not surprise me. In_The_Wind Jun 2013 #2

I prefer "Stasi State", but then again I'm old school. nt. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #3

And it's all information that's gathered daily by private corps we interact with all the time. baldguy Jun 2013 #4

I very much dislike that said companies collect all that data. Laelth Jun 2013 #14

And the fact that corps aren't limited in what they do supposed to make me feel better? baldguy Jun 2013 #29

I would certainly favor some reasonable limits. Laelth Jun 2013 #31

Then perhaps Edward Snowden and the Drs. Paul shouldn't be leading the charge. baldguy Jun 2013 #39

+1,000. Yes, we don't get any vote with them. We might pay cash and wear a bag over our head. freshwest Jun 2013 #81

Yet the 1st Amendment does? nt awoke_in_2003 Jun 2013 #56

No, the 1st Amendment does not apply to corps. either. Laelth Jun 2013 #59

In the context of gathering information Ms. Toad Jun 2013 #24

And you think multinational, multibillion dollar corps with no public accountability baldguy Jun 2013 #37

There's no difference between TBTF corps and govt anymore. They feed off each other. n/t Psephos Jun 2013 #68

1,931 (and more to come) private companies that will undoubtedly lobby to increase surveillance Auggie Jun 2013 #5

Damn it all ...I'm going back to snail mail. L0oniX Jun 2013 #6

... n2doc Jun 2013 #13

Every piece of mail is scanned, front and rear. GreenStormCloud Jun 2013 #87

Yes! hand written of course! nt snappyturtle Jun 2013 #15

Non lick stamps to avoid DNA trace. L0oniX Jun 2013 #16

Better yet I will hand deliver everything. emulatorloo Jun 2013 #28

that is devestating. Locrian Jun 2013 #7

Yep, another entrenched industry, like the Prison-Industrial Complex. kath Jun 2013 #18

This is NOT titanicdave Jun 2013 #8

Seriously? I'm sure East Germany used the same argument. harun Jun 2013 #10

Hardly. Were you ever there? I was in East Germany several times DFW Jun 2013 #26

Harun did not equate the US with East Germany, though. merrily Jun 2013 #38

Agreed there. DFW Jun 2013 #41

I would think that having been there would also want you to stop any part of a process that merrily Jun 2013 #47

Actually, in the case of East Germany, it pretty much did just that DFW Jun 2013 #63

I value your 1st Hand perspective. bvar22 Jun 2013 #74

I usually don't spend much time south of Dallas DFW Jun 2013 #88

If we give up some of our civil liberties in name of fighting radical extremism, then the totodeinhere Jun 2013 #12

what titanicdave Jun 2013 #30

My God how are they protecting the constitution? dkf Jun 2013 #32

Are they protecting the people? merrily Jun 2013 #48

So they think. dkf Jun 2013 #55

Protecting it by breaking it... awoke_in_2003 Jun 2013 #60

You mentioned protecting the Constitution. Is wholesale spying on the American people protecting the totodeinhere Jun 2013 #34

You are conflating defending the Constitution with keeping people physically s. That does not work. merrily Jun 2013 #40

Tell me how they are protecting the constitution. Fuddnik Jun 2013 #57

LOL!! You're kidding right? This has to be satire.... bowens43 Jun 2013 #93

They have won EVERYTHING. historylovr Jun 2013 #104

Please engage brain before posting on this board.... lastlib Jun 2013 #25

Uh oh, Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies emulatorloo Jun 2013 #27

I don't generally like Nazi analogies either but in this case I think that the analogy is a totodeinhere Jun 2013 #35

Godwin's rule is Mike Godwin's bullshit, designed to watch it grow as a pure meme, which, merrily Jun 2013 #42

+1 n/t NealK Jun 2013 #62

Ok, sure, this is just like the Holocaust emulatorloo Jun 2013 #66

Oh Grow Up titanicdave Jun 2013 #78

right... Kali Jun 2013 #46

No, you are not a liberal. nt awoke_in_2003 Jun 2013 #58

Wrong titanicdave Jun 2013 #77

And you also support... awoke_in_2003 Jun 2013 #79

And you point is........... titanicdave Jun 2013 #84

My point is that people... awoke_in_2003 Jun 2013 #85

And dave is busted. Kurovski Jun 2013 #91

... SammyWinstonJack Jun 2013 #75

RUIN OUR WAY OF LIFE? Skittles Jun 2013 #89

What a mindbogglingly naive remark. bowens43 Jun 2013 #92

And yet less than 50 Americans have been killed since 9/11 Vinnie From Indy Jun 2013 #9

You raise a good point. We're spending billions in the name of saving lives from terrorist attacks. totodeinhere Jun 2013 #19

It's not about "Saving Lives" warrant46 Jun 2013 #33

Are you forgetting the thousands of soldiers that have died since 9/11? thelordofhell Jun 2013 #20

No one forced us to invade Iraq and Afghanistan, or to stay in Afghanistan this long. merrily Jun 2013 #49

Tell that to the MIC thelordofhell Jun 2013 #71

They are a volunteer army... awoke_in_2003 Jun 2013 #61

They would argue that they create and maintain thousands of high-paying jobs. Amonester Jun 2013 #94

This makes me think of Rachel Maddow's MSNBC promo ad that says snappyturtle Jun 2013 #17

One would have thought that the economic collapse of 2008 would have provided a great merrily Jun 2013 #50

Exactly. Sad. nt snappyturtle Jun 2013 #52

I think they're trying to figure out who in the citizenry to kill off and when. valerief Jun 2013 #21

The surveillance makes me think we're the ones they consider enemies. merrily Jun 2013 #45

We ARE the enemies of the gazillionaires. If we weren't, they'd share and wouldn't be gazillionaires valerief Jun 2013 #99

Time to rein in Big Government! lastlib Jun 2013 #23

And still, many won't believe where this is headed..... DeSwiss Jun 2013 #36

Thank you. JDPriestly Jun 2013 #44

We all have better things to do than spend our time being JDPriestly Jun 2013 #43

"Welcome" suggests it is new. kenfrequed Jun 2013 #51

K&R Solly Mack Jun 2013 #53

We had ctsnowman Jun 2013 #54

$1 trillion per year is budgeted to this monstrous for-profit Terror-Industrial Complex: Fire Walk With Me Jun 2013 #64

From his grave in the briny deep, Bin Laden is smiling B Stieg Jun 2013 #65

So, you're saying that George Bush did actually create jobs. Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #69

On the brighter side, think of all the jobs that have been created... RushIsRot Jun 2013 #70

It's not a war on terror, it's a war on American citizens. Initech Jun 2013 #72

Election thefts cost a lot Politicalboi Jun 2013 #73

And yet ... AUSTERITY NOW! AUSTERITY FOREVER! blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #76

And bridges are crumbling Canuckistanian Jun 2013 #80

Check out available jobs in just about any company that contracts with the government in LibDemAlways Jun 2013 #82

Whe were these secure complexes built? Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2013 #83

Just think of all those chervilant Jun 2013 #86

We should at least get free cell phone & ISP service. CrispyQ Jun 2013 #95

So Skinner, not feeling the love of the Total Information Awareness? tavalon Jun 2013 #98

Land of the free (?) Initech Jun 2013 #100

33,900 requests in 33 years of FISA ... about 1,000 a year. JoePhilly Jun 2013 #101