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10. "bringing into the light"
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 12:47 PM
Feb 2013

You can't talk about bringing these cultures into the light while legalizing bringing up girls to be slaves. That is unconscionable. Laws exist beyond enforcement value (and these laws could be enforced better if the religious people out there were willing do to so); laws exist to say "NO, our society does not condone this abuse". We supposedly have human rights in this country, we need to fucking stand for that. To legalize young girls being brought up to be brood mares and sex slaves without access to knowledge of their rights as citizens would be to say as a nation, that we just don't give one flying fuck about women's rights, human rights, equality, justice, true religious freedom, and actual human beings. And everytime I see people who support legalizing these polygamous communities I honestly think that as a nation, we just might not stand for much at all. But that does not make me support legalization.

You cannot be against this while endorsing it. To legalize it would make the status-quo even easier. If law enforcement were not biased in favor of these communities in their locations then there would be better enforcement.

The analogy to drug use FAILS because drug users are not commonly brought up to abuse drugs from birth, are not told they cannot do anything else in their lives, are not separated from non-drug users in enclosed communities, and will not be brought back to their masters by police if they decide to get treatment for drug abuse. I do not support the "war on drugs", it is a completely different circumstance.

Interesting that someone calling himself AtheistCrusader would be so supportive of Religious enslavement, but then I guess if we're mostly talking just female slaves, many people in this country are, or at least benign to it. I guess the theoretical few is far more important than the real multitudes in human rights for many people.

I've wondered about that question before, too. loudsue Feb 2013 #1
If its truly voluntary and the participants free will, choice should prevail ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2013 #4
Well Polygamy usually refers to one man with multiple wives fasttense Feb 2013 #53
Well, all us progressives just love slavery get the red out Feb 2013 #2
How about if the question is restricted to consenting adults only? AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #6
It is the MAJORITY of the issue get the red out Feb 2013 #7
Problem is, they do it anyway. AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #8
"bringing into the light" get the red out Feb 2013 #10
As I said, allowing it is not 'endorsing it'. AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #13
+100! Katashi_itto Feb 2013 #15
Consenting behavior get the red out Feb 2013 #18
If it's not consenting, then it is actionable under law regardless of whether polygamy is legal AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #19
Yea, that will be "enforced" get the red out Feb 2013 #20
Most people worldwide, or just in the US? AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #22
Hell get the red out Feb 2013 #25
I would think that being told you'll 'burn in hell' is less damaging than enabling physical dependen AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #27
What I was trying to say get the red out Feb 2013 #34
Not in the US. AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #35
In jail you know your sentence at least get the red out Feb 2013 #36
I agree, insofar as the particulars vary. AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #41
Free will misswizard1 Feb 2013 #24
Someone has anger issues. Katashi_itto Feb 2013 #16
Human Rights issues get the red out Feb 2013 #17
In fairness, you got pretty angry above. AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #21
Of course I am passionate get the red out Feb 2013 #23
I am not indirectly supporting it. AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #26
I will go for something get the red out Feb 2013 #30
That could lead into another discussion. AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #33
We need to value rights in this coutry get the red out Feb 2013 #38
Ok, "...Self-absorbed much?" more than just anger issues. Katashi_itto Feb 2013 #48
Lame misswizard1 Feb 2013 #28
While that poster wasn't terribly diplomatic about pointing it out AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #32
"I was clearly attacked upthread" misswizard1 Feb 2013 #37
By all means, cite where I 'dished it out'. AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #39
"In fairness, you got pretty angry above." misswizard1 Feb 2013 #42
Bullshit-tastic. AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #44
Yes, assumptions are dangerous, I may have incorrectly assumed the anger attack came from you but... misswizard1 Feb 2013 #45
Strawman argument. Katashi_itto Feb 2013 #49
Not enough depth in the gene pool. The incidence of birth defect is very high in Utah. marble falls Feb 2013 #3
hiding misswizard1 Feb 2013 #5
I was surprised when visiting Salt Lake City, that a high end department store in the mall, Cleita Feb 2013 #12
The entire history of polygamy as actually practiced. nt geek tragedy Feb 2013 #9
In theory, no. I don't think there is one against polyandry either. Cleita Feb 2013 #11
Precisely. AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #14
I don't think there is any argument against it, just a need for serious regulation. mostlyalurker Feb 2013 #29
There is nothing illegal about voluntary living arrangements jberryhill Feb 2013 #31
Do women ever get to have half a dozen husbands? IADEMO2004 Feb 2013 #40
Yes. It is rare, and that rarity is an example of our mostly patriarchal society AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #43
Why does polygamy refer-in concept-only to 1 man w/multiple women? How about 1 woman w/multiple men? hue Feb 2013 #46
That is a heterosexist way of putting it cprise Feb 2013 #51
The Argument Against is Simple – Overpopulation PNW_Dem Feb 2013 #47
There are several good progressive arguments against it: cprise Feb 2013 #50
Yeah - more than one wife would kill me. Gorp Feb 2013 #52
Marriage is a partnership that gains some of its value from freedom fighter jh Feb 2013 #54
99% of the time polygamy is under patriarchal religions katchalater Mar 2013 #55
Spam deleted by MIR Team holywomenonearthnow5 May 2013 #56
Hello ~ holywomenonearthnow5 In_The_Wind May 2013 #57
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