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IrishAyes

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78. I appreciate your restrained response

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 10:04 AM

Apr 2013

Truly I do. But if you're any kind of real Democrat - and how can we really know one another solely online? - then regretfully I must respond that I think you're caving too easily. From your side, of course, how do you know I'm not some kind of poser trying to encourage the left into a beeline for disaster?

As for the outcome, we will probably just have to wait and see. But I can't help believing I'm right on this anymore than you can help believing you are. For the sake of the nation and our party, we can't afford to be wrong.

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Obama Called Their Bluff: Republicans Admit They Are Too Scared to Cut Social Security [View all] Tx4obama Apr 2013 OP

Good read. pinto Apr 2013 #1

My thoughts exactly HockeyMom Apr 2013 #2

Didn't we always know it, sister! He's the MAN! IrishAyes Apr 2013 #19

Good for you Obama liberalmike27 Apr 2013 #90

"If Republicans express any desire to cut Social Security, Democrats will savage them for it..." demwing Apr 2013 #3

The fuller context of the quote - pinto Apr 2013 #4

Sorry Pinto, but that didn't answer anythjing demwing Apr 2013 #6

I think the gist of the opinion here is that new CPI is tied to a tax increase. Repubs will balk. pinto Apr 2013 #11

But so what if the Republicans balk at tax increases? MNBrewer Apr 2013 #18

Isn't it just wonderful how Obama has brought the parties together over SS cuts. L0oniX Apr 2013 #32

I certainly hope that's the case and the article is accurate..... paleotn Apr 2013 #39

Yes, a brilliant move! AndyA Apr 2013 #83

I'm starting to have a hard time understanding who the enemy of a strong progressive society is. Leontius Apr 2013 #98

No they don't BlueStreak Apr 2013 #13

No, no, no! IrishAyes Apr 2013 #17

It gives me no joy demwing Apr 2013 #62

I appreciate your restrained response IrishAyes Apr 2013 #78

I'll give you an "AMEN" Left Coast2020 Apr 2013 #118

Checkmate! Tx4obama Apr 2013 #5

Gross MNBrewer Apr 2013 #21

+1 PotatoChip Apr 2013 #35

You said it! Auntie Bush Apr 2013 #47

Oh, I just caught on about the colors of the pieces. Never noticed it before. freshwest Apr 2013 #51

Excellent link, freshwest! sheshe2 Apr 2013 #58

Oh for Gods sake, wake up demwing Apr 2013 #65

Hey calm the hell down will ya ...it's a church and they have a right to worship as they see fit. L0oniX Apr 2013 #94

So on the positive side, he showed that they are liars and hypocrites n2doc Apr 2013 #7

I fear Dems now too. Who knows if they will cut my throat for money or not. L0oniX Apr 2013 #23

Watch what they do, not what they say pscot Apr 2013 #124

I'm glad I always had faith in PBO. Knew he was a master chess player. Auntie Bush Apr 2013 #8

in chess, always good to have lots of pawns DrDan Apr 2013 #9

Thank you. Nice to see my parents' retirement income is an expendable piece in this game. Bucky Apr 2013 #103

as is retirement income for all seniors DrDan Apr 2013 #107

This game isn't over yet, bvar22 Apr 2013 #10

Yea ...they can couple it along with him saying he will not cut SS. L0oniX Apr 2013 #24

This meme is stunning in its total lack of logic. Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #36

Except they didn't demand chained CPI. truebluegreen Apr 2013 #43

Chained CPI has been one of their many wet dreams Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #46

Nobody said it wasn't one of their wet dreams. truebluegreen Apr 2013 #49

I've already explained why this won't matter in the next election. Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #52

I guess I need to be clearer: I don't buy your explanation, truebluegreen Apr 2013 #59

Will people ever know Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #60

truebluegreen Apr 2013 #61

Yes, they will know. truebluegreen Apr 2013 #64

This budget proposal Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #66

What part of this don't you understand? truebluegreen Apr 2013 #68

What part of it do you not understand? Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #69

The Republican noise machine always find ways to manufacture new outrage. Chef Eric Apr 2013 #81

But then there's the reality of the situation ... Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #112

This is from the lAST time Obama pushed Social Security into the pot in 2011, bvar22 Apr 2013 #57

The flaw in your argument is that millions of American voters are illogical. Jim Lane Apr 2013 #73

Thank you ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #80

Did Republicans suddenly become forthright and consistent? JHB Apr 2013 #95

Anyone inclined to vote for a Democrat will know the truth. Hoyt Apr 2013 #72

There is no way to put lipstick on this pig. loudsue Apr 2013 #12

Not Obama, Obama ANS democrats daa Apr 2013 #16

+100 truebluegreen Apr 2013 #50

You and about 44 DUers are the only people who will remember "chained whatever" Kolesar Apr 2013 #56

none of your friends? Skittles Apr 2013 #110

Worked real hard on that one, didn't you? eom Kolesar Apr 2013 #113

didn't have to Skittles Apr 2013 #114

Peculiar fantasy world you live in , Skittles Kolesar Apr 2013 #115

I live in the real world Skittles Apr 2013 #117

That ain't stoppin the "sales team" just1voice Apr 2013 #71

It's not just the leadership of the dem party that has caved in to the republican ideals. loudsue Apr 2013 #84

He frightened a lot of vulnerable people tblue Apr 2013 #87

Those are my thoughts too. A very unkind and unwise thing to do. loudsue Apr 2013 #91

Obama is trying to deal with the lowdown, no good disndat Apr 2013 #100

You fight by telling them no. tblue Apr 2013 #125

They ALL ought to be too scared to touch it or even SUGGEST touching it!! Including Obama. Triana Apr 2013 #14

Music to my ears IrishAyes Apr 2013 #15

Hurrah! He used the poor and the elderly as human shields! Pale Blue Dot Apr 2013 #20

Thanks to the sacrificial SS offer the Repukes are smelling blood in the water. L0oniX Apr 2013 #30

I wish to God Obama WAS setting them up Demeter Apr 2013 #22

If Chained CPI goes down in flames, I think *we* deserve the credit, not Obama. reformist2 Apr 2013 #25

+1 L0oniX Apr 2013 #31

The outrage seemed to be the electricity that made the third rail deadly to touch deutsey Apr 2013 #34

Oh, yes, of course! Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #42

Along with the much hated Eric Holder who never wavered on that subject: freshwest Apr 2013 #67

We'll see there has been A LOT of bad feelings on this board for the President DainBramaged Apr 2013 #26

LOL Iliyah Apr 2013 #37

SS recipients are so happy that they could help out with the poker game. L0oniX Apr 2013 #27

When the BEST defense of a sitting President is: bvar22 Apr 2013 #93

Thanks Tx4obama! Iliyah Apr 2013 #28

K&R!! hue Apr 2013 #29

It was rather amusing, watching certain posters stock up on catfood....nt msanthrope Apr 2013 #33

Ha! Kolesar Apr 2013 #55

You make it sound like this was his intention all along, but, SmittynMo Apr 2013 #38

SS should never be on the table. TheCowsCameHome Apr 2013 #40

What I don't get is defacto7 Apr 2013 #41

wow so many of you still dying to be "right" about how non-liberal the President is pasto76 Apr 2013 #44

And many are dying to be right about how Doctor_J Apr 2013 #79

alternatively, Republicans defend SS against democratic budget that threatens cuts n t msongs Apr 2013 #45

Please, like Obama would set his good buddy Boehner up. MotherPetrie Apr 2013 #48

Sorry DonCoquixote Apr 2013 #53

80/20 Democratic party that likes Obama 80% the others 20% graham4anything Apr 2013 #54

This is delusional demwing Apr 2013 #63

Rope a dope bullsh/t 11 Dimensional checkers. blkmusclmachine Apr 2013 #70

kick bigtree Apr 2013 #74

Dumbest "reasoning" ever Doctor_J Apr 2013 #75

Won't happen. JoePhilly Apr 2013 #76

And why not? MNBrewer Apr 2013 #88

The GOP can't ... JoePhilly Apr 2013 #89

IMO, Obama's agreement to the SS cuts is a game changer MNBrewer Apr 2013 #97

I keep going back to Boner's wording Liberalynn Apr 2013 #85

"Obama wants to cut SS (a lie) and we want to destroy SS and privatize the whole thing." Choose. tridim Apr 2013 #104

You do realize that this article is fraudulent? Zero quotes to support its thesis. MannyGoldstein Apr 2013 #77

Awww Manny was wrong again. tridim Apr 2013 #105

This is an OP; greiner3 Apr 2013 #82

Idiotic. Assinine. Foolhardy. He has the R's defending SS. Stupid. Stupid. Stupid. grahamhgreen Apr 2013 #86

Pres. Obama has taken a page from Pres. Truman's playbook. SDjack Apr 2013 #92

I hope you are right BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2013 #121

Stupid Jakes Progress Apr 2013 #96

Utterly predictable. I feel bad for the chicken-littles playing hyper-dimensional chess... TekGryphon Apr 2013 #99

I think there is more there John2 Apr 2013 #111

And yet, 2014 is gonna be an epic clusterf/ck for DEMS. blkmusclmachine Apr 2013 #101

Keep up the hope. tridim Apr 2013 #106

I'm not sure I buy this spin. Bucky Apr 2013 #102

If that's the strategy, then he is brilliant. And such reasoning can be applied elsewhere: AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #108

Damned either way by some siligut Apr 2013 #109

No so fast ... GeorgeGist Apr 2013 #116

UGH Iliyah Apr 2013 #122

Wow, Talk about delusional.......... bowens43 Apr 2013 #119

That better be what happened. Indyfan53 Apr 2013 #120

But, They Never Bluffed! grahamhgreen Apr 2013 #123

Oops Doctor_J Apr 2013 #126

126 replies and only 80 DUrec 4bucksagallon Apr 2013 #127

except it isn't true. they've decided to take yes for an answer: yurbud Apr 2013 #128