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fasttense

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12. I don't buy it.

Reply to GliderGuider (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 05:54 PM

Feb 2013

It sounds very similar to social Darwinism. That is a biological principal is applied to human social interaction. I don't buy it. For example this statement: "Hierarchic systems are more effective than egalitarian systems at controlling the increasingly complex processes that are required to transform large amounts of energy into work."

Prove it. Show me a society that does better with totalitarian hierarchic system. Ever notice the movement of herds? That is an egalitarian movement. The herd leader does NOT decide to move on to better pastures. The herd does. When over 50% of the herd turns, then the rest of the herd turns too. On the surface it looks like the leader decided to turn. But the leader is merely reflecting the herd's decision.

Many a person has looked at nature and reads what they want to read in it.

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Why we will finish eating the planet [View all] GliderGuider Feb 2013 OP

In my heart of hearts, I have to agree. But it doesn't prevent me from trying. NYC_SKP Feb 2013 #1

The part that this post doesn't address is how we might respond to unfolding events GliderGuider Feb 2013 #4

Hmmmm..interesting dixiegrrrrl Feb 2013 #2

This sounds right. Sorry about that. immoderate Feb 2013 #3

Yes. The Maximum Power Principle is the inverse of the Maximum Entropy Principle. GliderGuider Feb 2013 #5

I carry on a "debate" with a friend who is a libertarian, free-market, climate denier. immoderate Feb 2013 #6

Please let me know what he says. GliderGuider Feb 2013 #7

Be aware he is not typical. He is a resourceful denier though. immoderate Feb 2013 #8

I have his response. immoderate Feb 2013 #9

Fascinating. GliderGuider Feb 2013 #10

I'm not sure he truly follows the implications of the MPP immoderate Feb 2013 #11

This message was self-deleted by its author AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #17

What sort of reactions have you cataloged so far? PETRUS Feb 2013 #25

Very good question. GliderGuider Feb 2013 #26

My thoughts. PETRUS Feb 2013 #31

Yes, this thesis challenges a lot of core beliefs. GliderGuider Feb 2013 #32

I don't buy it. fasttense Feb 2013 #12

I'm not saying "societies do better with hierarchic systems" GliderGuider Feb 2013 #13

There are assumptions you make when referring to societies. fasttense Feb 2013 #24

Thanks for your input. GliderGuider Feb 2013 #27

Exactly so. And 9 Recs? Gimme a break! AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #16

You don't like it? GliderGuider Feb 2013 #18

Lulz. n/t AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #19

To make up for the distress this has caused you, what would you say to... GliderGuider Feb 2013 #20

Not so much distress as annoyance. AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #21

My mission in life is to comfort the afflicted GliderGuider Feb 2013 #22

You may want to rethink your strategy, Paul.....n/t AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #23

You don't think afflicting the comfortable by presenting challenging new ideas is a good thing? GliderGuider Feb 2013 #28

You missed something by a MILE, G.G. AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #29

In the immortal words of Ricky Nelson, GliderGuider Feb 2013 #30

A good friend of mine works in the fracking fields of the great white north. A number of the firenewt Feb 2013 #14

Yeah, you got it. nt GliderGuider Feb 2013 #15