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SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
1. Raising a child is a full time job.
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 03:35 AM
Dec 2012

In a way, it doesn't matter exactly who does it. Mom, Dad, teachers, a boarding school, the group of kids he or she hangs out with.

But there's a profound conflict between the desires of adulthood (job, serious career, finishing the graduate degree) and the needs of childhood (nurturing, understanding, supporting)

In the bad old days this wasn't as much of a problem, since women were systematically excluded from the work force, so they stayed home and took care of the children. In upper class families, those tasks were farmed out.

But the reality is, that women are at least as smart and capable as those of the male gender. So if we grant women full equality, what's going to happen to the kids? Who will actually raise them?

Parents who really care about their kids (a significant percent of all parents) recognize this dilemma. In the past, the upper classes simply avoided this problem by having nurses, governesses, tutors, and boarding schools. In today's world, those things aren't quite as readily available, although nannies and daycare minders are reasonably affordable to the upper classes.

There's a genuine discord between the needs of the children and the needs of the adults. There's no good solution, and parents (read mothers) who choose to stay at home for more than twenty minutes after giving birth are punished in the workforce, otherwise known as the real world. Our culture is very much based on the world of work, with the assumption that Real Workers have no obligations outside the job. It's clear at all levels, not just in the managerial class. The corollary to this is that everyone with a job is made to feel guilty if the job is not the number one priority in your life.

The reality is, the next generation is of huge importance, even for those who (for whatever reason) don't reproduce, because if there's not a next generation, we'll all die an awful death.

I'm not entirely sure what the answer is, other than the world of work must eventually adjust, and recognize that children are a necessary part of life. Things need to be structured to accommodate various choices: children, no children, kids early, kids later, sick parents, and so on. Unfortunately, the world we're currently in, the world of the corporation does not acknowledge any of this.

Raising a child is a full time job. SheilaT Dec 2012 #1
This is such BS. fasttense Dec 2012 #7
Yes, exactly. SheilaT Dec 2012 #9
What a load of whining. Daemonaquila Dec 2012 #2
men have had it all for centuries BainsBane Dec 2012 #3
I'm not sure they have MissMillie Dec 2012 #8
Thank you! You underlined a point I was making johnlucas Dec 2012 #10
The vast majority of men have NEVER had it all because they aren't part of the one percent duffyduff Dec 2012 #12
that is a function of class BainsBane Jan 2013 #13
Unpaid labor by women... johnlucas Jan 2013 #18
Of Course Not! Nobody can. Including men. johnlucas Dec 2012 #4
You have essentialized social constructions BainsBane Dec 2012 #5
Biology influenced how cultures formed. And no, men never had it all. johnlucas Dec 2012 #6
Yikes ismnotwasm Jan 2013 #25
I made my point with the Jacksons by comparing Janet to Rebbie johnlucas Jan 2013 #26
Sexist bullshit alarimer Jan 2013 #14
Women are forced? Who says women HAVE to do the housework? johnlucas Jan 2013 #16
Biology is NOT destiny alarimer Jan 2013 #28
You don't understand what I mean by Biology Is Destiny. I will explain johnlucas Jan 2013 #29
Really bad post-and this is completely wrong: Starry Messenger Jan 2013 #15
How many times have I heard transsexuals saying they felt like they were born in the wrong body? johnlucas Jan 2013 #17
Your brain is part of your biology. Starry Messenger Jan 2013 #19
No you misunderstand me. I mentioned the brain part of the biology. johnlucas Jan 2013 #20
Your brain is part of your biological body. Starry Messenger Jan 2013 #21
It's as simple as this. They look between your legs to find out what sex you are when you're born johnlucas Jan 2013 #22
No, you are wrong. We're done. The AMA disagrees with you and so does every other credible expert. Starry Messenger Jan 2013 #23
I guess I disagree with the AMA then. And 'experts' have been wrong before. johnlucas Jan 2013 #27
More elitist hogwash duffyduff Dec 2012 #11
Class difference was always the flaw in Feminism. Womanism & female Feminism backlash were result. johnlucas Jan 2013 #30
Some interesting statistics ismnotwasm Jan 2013 #24
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