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20. The US is waiting until it suits them, and here are the numbers, Mr Legal Expert
Wed Jun 27, 2012, 01:10 AM
Jun 2012

Last edited Wed Jun 27, 2012, 01:51 AM - Edit history (1)

about UK-US extraditions which you claim to be unable to find.


... government figures show that between 2004-11, 112 extradition requests were made by the US to Britain. Of those, 73 defendants were extradited while seven cases were discharged, with the remainder still unresolved.

http://www.thenational.ae/news/world/americas/claims-uk-us-extradition-pact-lopsided-but-some-legal-experts-disagree


Wait, that's just some obscure newspaper from the UAE, WTF do they know, right?

How about the official UK document where you can find these numbers in the table on page 472.

A REVIEW OF THE UNITED KINGDOM’S EXTRADITION ARRANGEMENTS

REQUESTS TO UK BY US from 2004-2011
Requests received 36 8 17 10 11 19 18 11
Arrests 24 16 15 8 9 19 14 7
Surrendered 3 8 16 8 6 16 10 6
Discharged (by courts) 0 1 1 1 3 1 0 0
Refused (Secretary of State)
0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Withdrawn by requesting State
1 2 1 0 1 2 1 0
Not Returned (Miscellaneous)
0 0 1 1 0 0 0 0

http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/publications/police/operational-policing/extradition-review?view=Binary


So, while the Secretary of State never intervened to deny a request, the courts have discharged 7 within the last 7 years, the US have withdrawn their request in 8 more cases and many cases of those arrested due to extradition requests are still pending. 112 arrests, 73 surrenders, that's a little less than three quarters instead of 100 percent success rate for extraditions from the UK to the US, right?

The numbers of extraditions from Sweden to the US may be harder to come by unless someone speaks Swedish. So, for the time being, let's take this:

Questions and answers about the Julian Assange sex crimes case and Swedish extradition rules
Malin Rising, The Associated Press, Feb 06, 2011

Since 2000, the U.S. has requested the extradition of seven citizens from Sweden, according to the Swedish Justice Ministry. Five of the requests were approved, and two were rejected because the suspects were no longer believed to be in Sweden.

http://www.1310news.com/news/world/article/179730--questions-and-answers-about-the-julian-assange-sex-crimes-case-and-swedish-extradition-rules


So, out of 5 people arrested, 5 people were extradited. Success rate of 100 percent in extraditions requested by US from Sweden between 2000 and 2010.
Are Assange's fears justified? [View all] EFerrari Jun 2012 OP
I don't know, but I entirely understand his concerns. Lionessa Jun 2012 #1
His extradition to Sweden is based solely on being wanted for questioning dipsydoodle Jun 2012 #2
The government claims the right to hold prisoners indefinitely without charge EFerrari Jun 2012 #5
Not unless the governmental policy is to protect war criminals and go after whistle-blowers. AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #3
Well done. nt bemildred Jun 2012 #8
Note to Assange: When it is Officially Denied, Consider it True solarman350 Jun 2012 #4
Does that mean that if its 'officially acknowledged' that its false? n/t Bodhi BloodWave Jun 2012 #9
Here's where this conspiracy theory falls down: jeff47 Jun 2012 #6
They just want to keep him penned up. bemildred Jun 2012 #7
Now THAT makes sense. But it's caused by Assange's actions, not a US conspiracy. (nt) jeff47 Jun 2012 #11
Assange caused the US to want to keep him penned up? bemildred Jun 2012 #13
They dislike that he published classified. jeff47 Jun 2012 #17
So that's a "no"? nt bemildred Jun 2012 #21
I really don't see how you got "no" out of that. jeff47 Jun 2012 #22
I don't see any causation in that. bemildred Jun 2012 #23
Public records aren't stamped SECRET. jeff47 Jun 2012 #24
All government records are public records. bemildred Jun 2012 #25
Now that's a novel theory. I bet none of the governments above you hold it. struggle4progress Jun 2012 #26
What's that you say? bemildred Jun 2012 #27
No. Unless you think the government should publish your address and social security number. jeff47 Jun 2012 #28
Those are public. Anybody can get them. Are you nuts? nt bemildred Jun 2012 #29
I can get your social security number without your permission? jeff47 Jun 2012 #30
Well, all right then, you can redact the SSNs. nt bemildred Jun 2012 #33
Not evil shadowy forces, jeff. Obama's Department of Justice. EFerrari Jun 2012 #10
Did you miss the part where this was not new and not prosecutable? (nt) jeff47 Jun 2012 #12
No. Did you miss the part where this Justice Department signed off on EFerrari Jun 2012 #14
Did you miss the part where those aren't illegal? jeff47 Jun 2012 #16
I'm talking about human rights abuses and your argument is that they're legal? EFerrari Jun 2012 #18
The US is waiting until it suits them, and here are the numbers, Mr Legal Expert reorg Jun 2012 #20
This is just a stupid game. US free speech law will, with few exceptions, protect anyone who merely struggle4progress Jun 2012 #15
"US free speech law will, with few exceptions, protect anyone who merely received & published info." EFerrari Jun 2012 #19
kr Solly Mack Jun 2012 #31
TRUTH, LEADERSHIP, MORALS AND VALUES AND AMERICA clang1 Jun 2012 #32
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