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jeff47

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18. Again, I recommend reading what's actually written here, and not the argument in your head.
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 09:14 PM
Apr 2012
I disagree that everything that happens in a war can be excused, or ruled legitimate 'because it was a war'. There would have been far fewer prosecutions at Nuremberg if that was the case.

Hey look! You're lying about me again!

Please quote where I say it's "excusable". It's legal. Doesn't mean it's good, or even tolerable. But it's also one of the reasons war is awful. You continue to fly off the handle as if I'm saying this incident was a good thing.

Who represented the victims in that investigation?

Why do you think victims get representation? We don't even require that under US criminal law. Many prosecutors will contact and advocate for victims, but it's not required.

And if a country goes to war based on lies, they should have no leeway whatsoever when it comes to crimes like this.

That's nice. Now you just have to get the Geneva Convention modified to actually recognize that. Then you might have something enforceable.

Sorry if I misunderstood you, I don't think so.

That's because you're arguing with me in your head, instead of arguing with what I actually write.

Victims deserve justice

Yes, and the lack of justice is why war is bad. Or would war be OK if we investigate every death in the war and ensure each one was legal? No? Then perhaps we should go back to trying to not go to war to begin with. Which is what I've been advocating.
And no one has been held accountable for that crime. The documentary made in Iceland sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #1
That's because it wasn't a crime. jeff47 Apr 2012 #4
Well, it's nice that you have conducted an investigation, a trial and have reached a conclusion sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #5
If you're going to complain, you should probably pay more attention to what was actually said. jeff47 Apr 2012 #10
DOD investigations do not hold much weight frankly. They are naturally self-serving. sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #17
Again, I recommend reading what's actually written here, and not the argument in your head. jeff47 Apr 2012 #18
I'm pretty sure you can still commit crimes in a war. bemildred Apr 2012 #7
You can, but the AK-47 and the mistaken AT weapon mean it's not a crime. (nt) jeff47 Apr 2012 #11
Mistakes can be crimes too, you know, that happens frequently in the real world. bemildred Apr 2012 #21
War crimes have specific criteria jeff47 Apr 2012 #23
Ah, I guess that's all settled then. nt bemildred Apr 2012 #25
Wrong. Killing civilians is a crime. EFerrari Apr 2012 #8
Targeting civilians is a crime. jeff47 Apr 2012 #12
Bullshit but, you know that. EFerrari Apr 2012 #13
Go ahead and quote where mistaken identity is illegal. jeff47 Apr 2012 #14
Mistaken identity, my @ss. Are you telling me the Pentagon doesn't know EFerrari Apr 2012 #15
So you're operating under the belief that someone in the Pentagon is pulling the triggers? jeff47 Apr 2012 #16
If you kill someone by mistake it is a crime Angry Dragon Apr 2012 #20
In the civilian world jeff47 Apr 2012 #24
So many things wrong with your theory Angry Dragon Apr 2012 #26
No, actually the wrong is with your mischaracterizations jeff47 Apr 2012 #27
Go to post #3 Angry Dragon Apr 2012 #28
The war in Iraq was a war. The "war on terror" is a euphamism jeff47 Apr 2012 #29
My mistake I meant #4 Angry Dragon Apr 2012 #30
You just really aren't bothering to read at all, are you? jeff47 Apr 2012 #31
Obama's DoD Lacanian peep show. n/t EFerrari Apr 2012 #2
And in other news, the boy that revealed the Emperor has no clothes will be hanged. nm rhett o rick Apr 2012 #3
"Democracies die behind closed doors." countryjake Apr 2012 #6
If all we can do is be the memories for the truth, let's do that. nt EFerrari Apr 2012 #9
K&R. nt OnyxCollie Apr 2012 #19
K & R! nt CherylK Apr 2012 #22
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