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In reply to the discussion: Bradley Manning: a show trial of state secrecy [View all]jeff47
(26,549 posts)18. Again, I recommend reading what's actually written here, and not the argument in your head.
I disagree that everything that happens in a war can be excused, or ruled legitimate 'because it was a war'. There would have been far fewer prosecutions at Nuremberg if that was the case.
Hey look! You're lying about me again!
Please quote where I say it's "excusable". It's legal. Doesn't mean it's good, or even tolerable. But it's also one of the reasons war is awful. You continue to fly off the handle as if I'm saying this incident was a good thing.
Who represented the victims in that investigation?
Why do you think victims get representation? We don't even require that under US criminal law. Many prosecutors will contact and advocate for victims, but it's not required.
And if a country goes to war based on lies, they should have no leeway whatsoever when it comes to crimes like this.
That's nice. Now you just have to get the Geneva Convention modified to actually recognize that. Then you might have something enforceable.
Sorry if I misunderstood you, I don't think so.
That's because you're arguing with me in your head, instead of arguing with what I actually write.
Victims deserve justice
Yes, and the lack of justice is why war is bad. Or would war be OK if we investigate every death in the war and ensure each one was legal? No? Then perhaps we should go back to trying to not go to war to begin with. Which is what I've been advocating.
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And no one has been held accountable for that crime. The documentary made in Iceland
sabrina 1
Apr 2012
#1
Well, it's nice that you have conducted an investigation, a trial and have reached a conclusion
sabrina 1
Apr 2012
#5
If you're going to complain, you should probably pay more attention to what was actually said.
jeff47
Apr 2012
#10
DOD investigations do not hold much weight frankly. They are naturally self-serving.
sabrina 1
Apr 2012
#17
Again, I recommend reading what's actually written here, and not the argument in your head.
jeff47
Apr 2012
#18
Mistakes can be crimes too, you know, that happens frequently in the real world.
bemildred
Apr 2012
#21
So you're operating under the belief that someone in the Pentagon is pulling the triggers?
jeff47
Apr 2012
#16
And in other news, the boy that revealed the Emperor has no clothes will be hanged. nm
rhett o rick
Apr 2012
#3