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NurseJackie

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Reply to Uncle Joe (Reply #33)

Mon Jun 4, 2018, 05:04 PM

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The Progressive Revolution Is Being Led by a Black Woman [View all] Uncle Joe Jun 2018 OP

Turner is poison, and no friend of the Democratic Party. We've seen OnDoutside Jun 2018 #1

What some see as hate others see as intervention Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #2

Shirley Chisholm said that as a member of the Democratic Party, not someone outside... George II Jun 2018 #8

Regardless, whether working from the inside or out for their cause they share something else Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #29

Not "regardless", look at what Shirley Chisholm accomplished in her political career, both locally.. George II Jun 2018 #32

Everything is relative, Nina Turner is still an ongoing force and the analogy Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #35

Yes, everything is relative. Shirley Chisholm achieved what she did in the 1960s and 1970s. George II Jun 2018 #38

And Nina Turner is fighting the good fight during the age of Trump and increased corporate supremacy Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #39

No she isn't in my opinion. What has she done or said about Trump and Republicans? Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #201

She is? sheshe2 Aug 2018 #223

Nina Turner burned her bridges and I saw a recent interview with her and see no Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #200

Attacking the Democratic Party is not a positive for unity. The USA has the greatest ever threat to OnDoutside Jun 2018 #25

One person's attack is another person's constructive criticism. n/t Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #45

In this case, the "another person" is Donald Trump. OnDoutside Jun 2018 #63

If you can't differentiate between the two, then God help you. Blue_Tires Jun 2018 #178

No. They are two wholly separate concepts. LanternWaste Jun 2018 #182

They are separate concepts but perception can and does play a major role in Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #212

No, she has personality problems. People who CAN Hortensis Jun 2018 #144

FDR's ( The most successful Democrat and one of our greatest Presidents) Second Bill of Rights Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #146

No, we did NOT, but which would be the greater insult? Hortensis Jun 2018 #147

It's good that you would bring up Stacey Abrams to help make my point again. What do Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #149

Pissing on Obama and the Clintons isn't creative or independent Blue_Tires Jun 2018 #173

OR is a hate group. murielm99 Jun 2018 #3

Do you mean like this guy? Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #4

Have you seen what Our Revolution has done to DEMOCRATIC candidates that they didn't support? George II Jun 2018 #11

I have. That group does more harm than good. It's not a fucking "intervention"... GMAFB! NurseJackie Jun 2018 #15

Sad that they attack DEMOCRATIC opponents on the basis of their race! George II Jun 2018 #17

Yes, and undoubtedly Skidmore Jun 2018 #23

"I believe that the Democratic Party is worth fighting for" guess who said that in response Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #36

Actions speak louder Skidmore Jun 2018 #69

Of course you do Skidmore as does everyone else. Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #71

RIGHT NOW on a liberal talk show youtube chat OR is being spoken of in glowing terms Eliot Rosewater Jun 2018 #28

I believe it to be just the opposite as the Democratic Party moves to the left, we Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #46

Has any OR candidates won anything yet? Gothmog Jun 2018 #5

Did you not read the OP? Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #6

You consider this success? Gothmog Jun 2018 #7

Everything is relative, if the Abolitionist or Suffragist Movements had been given two years Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #10

Bernie's army in disarray Gothmog Jun 2018 #12

I have read it but I disagree with it Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #19

Denial is not just a river in Africa Gothmog Jun 2018 #20

By definition OR cant be successful unless Democrats are unseated. Eliot Rosewater Jun 2018 #31

By definition Democrats can't be successful during any primary without unseating other Democrats. Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #42

They could run for Republican seats and not Democratic seats...which make no difference in the Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #202

I get tired of this real Democrat stuff JonLP24 Aug 2018 #229

Ha!! :-D Comparing "OR" with Abolitionists and Suffragists?? NurseJackie Jun 2018 #18

I was amused also Gothmog Jun 2018 #21

I am exhausted, figthing KGB, GOP and you know who...too much Eliot Rosewater Jun 2018 #44

If you read history Abolitionists and Suffragists were laughed at and ridiculed as well. n/t Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #48

Oh, yes! That TOTALLY makes Our Revolution *just like* Abolitionists and Suffragists! :-D NurseJackie Jun 2018 #49

The commonality is fighting the good fight when it was't popular with the powers that be. n/t Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #51

Oh, yes! That TOTALLY makes Our Revolution *just like* Abolitionists and Suffragists! :-D NurseJackie Jun 2018 #53

I never said they were the same, even the Abolitionist and Suffragists movements weren't "the same" Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #58

Oh, bull! Your meaning was clear! Stop splitting hairs! NurseJackie Jun 2018 #66

Wrong again, this was my original post on this subject to which you responded Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #70

Your meaning was clear. The flattery being heaped onto "Our Revolution" is totally undeserved... NurseJackie Jun 2018 #74

Well then we are making progress, you do acknowledge it's a free country Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #75

Oh, good Lord. GMAFB! NurseJackie Jun 2018 #79

This is a waste of time, enjoy your "real world" Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #83

Why is this kind of nonsense allowed here? WIProgressive88 Jun 2018 #120

Nobody is doing that. NurseJackie Jun 2018 #126

And slavery did not end until the start of WWII sheshe2 Jun 2018 #80

If you want to get technical sheshe, slavery still exists to this day but as an institution Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #85

Well of course it is still going on...different name different game. sheshe2 Jun 2018 #93

I didn't see a link to any article regarding to what you're referring to? n/t Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #96

I read the book. sheshe2 Jun 2018 #102

I knew about Jim Crow but thanks for the links sheshe. Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #103

I stated that above, it still exists. sheshe2 Jun 2018 #108

I will check the book out. Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #110

Fighting the powers that be is the only commonality that OR has with them...(nt) ehrnst Jun 2018 #134

But they hired a Trumper so they don't really fight the powers that be... Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #204

True this. (nt) ehrnst Jun 2018 #207

They hired a Trumper who agrees with Trump on immigration. Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #203

You must be furious with the DNC/DCCC for losing over 1000 seats over the last 8 years! Indepatriot Jun 2018 #115

So, gerrymandering and voter suppression had nothing to do with it... ehrnst Jun 2018 #131

bwahahahahaha!!!! George II Jun 2018 #143

I am furious with the purity types who failed to show up at midterms and got us GOP run states, Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #205

Here are some more findings from the Politico article Gothmog Jun 2018 #13

As is the case with most every startup, it does have growing pains but yes I believe it's a success Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #24

"...startup..." Ha! NurseJackie Jun 2018 #90

Indeed. (nt) ehrnst Jun 2018 #130

OR has not won any significant victories and is a joke Gothmog Jun 2018 #138

They will claim victory for a candidate that was up 10 points in a safe Democratic race. ehrnst Jun 2018 #139

I seriously doubt that this organization will be around long Gothmog Jun 2018 #140

I know Bankston. If he says its BS, its BS. elehhhhna Jun 2018 #155

Speaking of good reads, here's one as well (CM is the interviewer): George II Jun 2018 #9

That brings me to a D.U. poll which I posted here on May 29th as to priorities and an MLK Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #14

Has sanders ever accomplished anything in the real world? Gothmog Jun 2018 #16

Well apparently the American People disagree with your assessment as to Bernie's worth or value Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #22

Oh God, THAT poll again!! Have you read the methodology of that (9 month old) poll? George II Jun 2018 #30

That poll is not an island in the ocean, Bernie's poll rankings have him consistently ranked Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #33

... NurseJackie Jun 2018 #41

... Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #43

I had a bet with a UK bookie that this poll would show up here sooner or later... George II Jun 2018 #61

My town (Hempstead, NY) has more people in it and is mor diverse. N/T lapucelle Jun 2018 #136

So you are admitting that sanders has no legislative accomplishments Gothmog Jun 2018 #54

I believe you misread your own post, it has Bernie in second place not third. As for Bernie's record Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #78

Thank you for the laughs Gothmog Jun 2018 #84

It's too bad they didn't take Bernie seriously when he argued against going to war with Iraq, Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #87

Again, you keep leaving off all of the post offices that sanders has named Gothmog Jun 2018 #95

And you're leaving off about the disastrous decision to wage a war with Iraq for no good reason. Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #109

And yet he voted to fund the war each and every time it came up. George II Jun 2018 #116

Seems to me that voting against the war and then voting to fund it is ... betsuni Jun 2018 #123

Old news...and as an independent from a small state, he didn't have to worry about getting Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #206

Funny that this editorial fails to point out the 2nd and 3rd most "popular" politicians. OilemFirchen Jun 2018 #76

About that poll sheshe2 Jun 2018 #91

Go by Gothmog's poll then on post 54, it has Bernie in second place behind former Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #94

That data is old. BS has not appeared on the most popular list since January. lapucelle Jun 2018 #124

NT: I don't think it is our job nor our obligation to fit in. It's their job to fit in with us. OnDoutside Jun 2018 #62

smh samnsara Jun 2018 #26

Turner is a divisive figure and no leader still_one Jun 2018 #27

Exactly right! She's in-it for herself and nobody else. Vanity-based showboating... NurseJackie Jun 2018 #40

Bingo. (NT) ehrnst Jun 2018 #135

Thank you Uncle Joe! MuseRider Jun 2018 #34

Precisely MuseRider, a forest doesn't grow overnight. Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #37

Slash-and-burn is not the way to "grow a forest"... NurseJackie Jun 2018 #47

Actually fire is natural and essential to a healthy forest Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #50

Ha!! :-D That's not what "slash and burn" means NurseJackie Jun 2018 #52

That's funny the thing about perception because by your posts on this thread, I thought Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #59

Uh-huh. Yes. Of course you did. NurseJackie Jun 2018 #67

Didn't he get in trouble masturbating in a porno movie theater? Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #81

Don't know. Don't care. Irrelevant. NurseJackie Jun 2018 #86

There was "no subject" Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #88

Then why did you try to change it? NurseJackie Jun 2018 #92

OMG sheshe2 Aug 2018 #224

You're responding to a post I made on June 4th and acting as if I just posted this? Uncle Joe Aug 2018 #226

LOL Gothmog Jun 2018 #163

These people literally exhumed Zombie Dennis Kucinich and ran him in a race Blue_Tires Jun 2018 #179

Every Time I See Trump's Ugly Face, I See .... DoctorJoJo Jun 2018 #55

Agreed Gothmog Jun 2018 #57

Yes, and every time I read those names I Cha Jun 2018 #141

Where Is The Bernie Revolution? Gothmog Jun 2018 #56

What really happened Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #60

I was a delegate to the national convention Gothmog Jun 2018 #68

OPINION: Mississippi Women's Activist - Bernie Sanders Can't Come to the Cookout Gothmog Jun 2018 #98

Well that's the wonderful thing about America everyone is entitled to their opinion Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #101

And yet Sanders delegates attacked a true hero, John Lewis Gothmog Jun 2018 #105

Bernie may or may not run and Our Revolution may or may succeed but it's too early to tell on either Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #111

Our Revolution is not a serious movement in the real world Gothmog Jun 2018 #128

Nobody claimed otherwise. NurseJackie Jun 2018 #106

Is this some sort of bad joke? comradebillyboy Jun 2018 #64

No it's an article about Nina Turner and Our Revolution Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #72

TRANSLATION: Yes. It's a joke. A bad joke. NurseJackie Jun 2018 #97

I thought you might like this video NurseJackie Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #99

You thought wrong. NurseJackie Jun 2018 #100

It was about nurses and stuff so I thought you might like it Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #104

You thought wrong. NurseJackie Jun 2018 #107

This makes me smile Gothmog Jun 2018 #164

Nina 'I Could Vote For Republicans' Turner? Me. Jun 2018 #65

Nina Turner "I believe the Democratic Party is worth fighting for Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #73

Past Lives Don't Count Me. Jun 2018 #77

Via "Our Revolution?" ehrnst Jun 2018 #137

Uncle Joe Kurt V. Jun 2018 #82

Thank you for the kind words Kurt V Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #89

Appreciate the article, UJ. Keep the faith; we all face common challenge now. appalachiablue Jun 2018 #112

I will in regards to the former and I agree with you on the latter Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #113

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It was those self-identified progressives who refused to vote for the Democratic nominee that helped still_one Jun 2018 #117

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What "myriad of mistakes"? betsuni Jun 2018 #121

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No it's not. OilemFirchen Jun 2018 #122

Kick ck4829 Jun 2018 #125

Bernie Sanders' Revolution Isn't Carrying His Candidates Through The Midterms Gothmog Jun 2018 #127

Stacey Abrams was booed by the "progressive left" at the Dem Convention ehrnst Jun 2018 #129

A logical fallacy Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #132

What part of my statement was fallacious or illogical? ehrnst Jun 2018 #133

The fact that some progressives were upset with John has nothing to do with Nina's support of Stacy Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #145

I don't consider anyone who boos any mention of John Lewis to be "progressive." ehrnst Jun 2018 #148

I supplied the record reflecting Nina's endorsement and pleas for supporting Stacy Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #150

You seemed to be confused as to what I said. ehrnst Jun 2018 #156

Your're correct about one thing, Stacey is a good candidate Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #158

So Bernie and OR are responsible for "making a more friendly atmosphere" for Abrams. ehrnst Jun 2018 #165

You didn't, Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #169

Sanders had no effect on the Georgia race Gothmog Jun 2018 #170

Would you define for me what you mean by "status quo?" ehrnst Jun 2018 #171

Thank you for asking ehrnst Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #183

Thank you for your explanation. ehrnst Jun 2018 #184

Social justice has taken two steps forward and one step back, at best Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #185

So, because there are backlashes against social justice progress ehrnst Jun 2018 #186

There has been progress made particularly as of late Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #187

Medicare for All IS about health care coverage..... ehrnst Jun 2018 #188

The major difference in Medicare for all and for profit private "health" insurance coverage Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #189

So you agree - Medicare For All is about health care coverage. ehrnst Jun 2018 #190

No when you remove the profit motive from deciding who lives and who dies, it's about health care Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #191

You mean "institutionalized" in the way that right wingers mean abortion ehrnst Jun 2018 #192

Private for profit health insurance corporations have NOTHING to do with health care, Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #193

They have as much to do with healthcare as the government does with Medicare. ehrnst Jun 2018 #194

No, because the U.S. government isn't or at least shouldn't be in the business of making profit Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #195

Slurs? What drama. ehrnst Jun 2018 #196

.. Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #197

... ehrnst Jun 2018 #198

Oh sure, NOW they need her. Wwcd Jun 2018 #154

Last night was fun Gothmog Jun 2018 #166

Yes, Hillary invited Stacy Abrams to speak at the DNC Cha Jun 2018 #142

I thought you meant greymattermom Jun 2018 #151

I believe Stacey Abrams to be a progressive leader as well but it was the Root's title and Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #153

Progressive & Democratic are two closely woven beliefs of one political party Wwcd Jun 2018 #157

It's good that you would bring up Paul Wellstone to help make my point but i agree with you Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #159

Thanks for making my point. Reminds me of another group who Wwcd Jun 2018 #160

"Wellstone and the War" Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #168

No, Stacy Abrams RandySF Jun 2018 #152

Yes, RandySF, you are correct. Stacy Abrams is the Real Voice of the Democratic Progressive Party Wwcd Jun 2018 #161

Our Revolution is not doing well Gothmog Jun 2018 #162

Analysis: How did Bernie Sanders Democrats do in the primaries? Gothmog Jun 2018 #167

Nina Fucking Turner? You trying to wind me up? Blue_Tires Jun 2018 #172

*Groan* You're really going to make me do this, aren't you?? Blue_Tires Jun 2018 #174

Believe me Uncle Joe, this is not a horse you want to back... Blue_Tires Jun 2018 #175

not a nina fan for sure. shes only leading herself. samnsara Jun 2018 #176

Two years ago, the "Progressive Revolution" among pundits was being led by Blue_Tires Jun 2018 #177

Why is the punditsphere so eager to coronate Blue_Tires Jun 2018 #180

K&R... disillusioned73 Jun 2018 #181

I despise Nina Turner...and I wouldn't have anything to do with anything she is involved in. Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #199

Luckily, this organization is falling apart in part due to Nina Turner Gothmog Jun 2018 #209

It is a bad organization...and I agree with everything you said. Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #210

Economist--Berned out Gothmog Jun 2018 #208

Did Our Revolution endorsed any candidates for tonight's primaries Gothmog Jun 2018 #211

Our Revolution had wins in last week's primaries. They aren't batting as bad as you want to pretend JCanete Aug 2018 #228

LOL Gothmog Aug 2018 #230

So you are making a distinction about where Our Revolution has been succesful or a failure, not JCanete Aug 2018 #231

I am so glad that Emily's list is beating Our Revolution and beating it badly Gothmog Aug 2018 #232

Some more smiles Gothmog Aug 2018 #233

Looks like the revolution didn't do too well in Hawaii, despite sending AOC. Gothmog Aug 2018 #234

Bernie and his army are losing 2018 Gothmog Aug 2018 #213

LOL! Perhaps you were just enthralled by the head line and didn't read the entire article? Uncle Joe Aug 2018 #214

LOL Gothmog Aug 2018 #215

I missed this earlier, but I see upthread brer cat Aug 2018 #219

He tagged her a few days before she won? sheshe2 Aug 2018 #222

This makes me smile Gothmog Aug 2018 #220

The first time I ran in a marathon (NYC in 1976) I had to drop out after ten miles. George II Aug 2018 #221

Democratic Party's liberal insurgency hits a wall in Midwest primaries Gothmog Aug 2018 #216

Hell yes! sheshe2 Aug 2018 #217

Down Goes Socialism Gothmog Aug 2018 #218

Read sheshe2 Aug 2018 #225

The Far Left Is Losing Gothmog Aug 2018 #227