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In reply to the discussion: How Doug Jones Destroyed Roy Moores Whole Shtick with One Well-Chosen Verb [View all]pnwmom
(108,973 posts)82. Prancing has to do with horses, not women. In your effort to defend gay men, you're insulting women.
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yurbud
Dec 2017
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So feminizing him w prancing worked on sexist assholes and we should learn what from that? Nope.
bettyellen
Dec 2017
#1
Al Franken said something similar about Bush in 2004: dressing up like a pilot & cowboy
yurbud
Dec 2017
#61
Well sure, but Jones wasn't referring to a HORSE, Jones was talking about male person.
vkkv
Dec 2017
#101
He was riding a horse, "prancing" across the "stage" in his "cowboy suit." Horses prance.
pnwmom
Dec 2017
#102
Jones wasn't being homophobic. It's stretching the bounds of logic to accuse him of that. n/t
pnwmom
Dec 2017
#120
Prancing has long been a dogwhistle to denigrate gay men. Its rarely used, but hey it works in
bettyellen
Dec 2017
#121
It's oft used to imply men are homosexual- am I the only one who knows that?
bettyellen
Dec 2017
#22
The phony part has nothing to do w prancing though. The extra punch that works on possible RWers is
bettyellen
Dec 2017
#35
Prancing has to do with horses, not women. In your effort to defend gay men, you're insulting women.
pnwmom
Dec 2017
#82
WOW. Youre totally ignorant of the history of using read feminine attributes to diminish people? So
bettyellen
Dec 2017
#113
No, I'm not. I'm disputing that "prancing" "stage" or "cowboy suit" are feminine terms. n/t
pnwmom
Dec 2017
#116
Cowboy suit? LOL. Stop pretending to be having an honest conversation. You know it was prancing and
bettyellen
Dec 2017
#118
The word is appropriate because its primary use is to describe the gait of a horse.
pnwmom
Dec 2017
#81
You're reading the wrong thing into it. Jones called him out on his ridiculous cowboy outfit and...
brush
Dec 2017
#84
Oh, like that story of football players has something to do with pedophile Moore.
brush
Dec 2017
#97
So is the word "dance" feminine, too? I get the word ballerina, because that is the feminine
pnwmom
Dec 2017
#141
I didn't lie. I simply asked where it was, because I hadn't seen it. Why are you so accusatory?
pnwmom
Dec 2017
#143
That would be a stereotype to suggest all men who prance around are gay, but it does point out
Doodley
Dec 2017
#106
That stereotype has been around a long time. Its weord so many never heard of it. I guess going to
bettyellen
Dec 2017
#109
Directed toward gay students there? Yep. Also in films books movies and TV shows.
bettyellen
Dec 2017
#126
Who do you know who is directing that word at gay students at the Fashion School?
pnwmom
Dec 2017
#127
I just said it was not people AT school. Am done w your gaslighting nonsense- just like the GOP....
bettyellen
Dec 2017
#129
You said "I guess going to Fashion school I notice it more than the average person. Weird."
pnwmom
Dec 2017
#137
You didnt realize fashion schools (as well as the industry)generally have a large contingent of gay
bettyellen
Dec 2017
#138
That's not what I said. I asked you who was saying it at the Fashion school, because that's
pnwmom
Dec 2017
#147
I have a feeling Doug Jones used a word he thought would resonate with Alabama voters.
jalan48
Dec 2017
#29
We both know a dozen words linked to females that are used to shame men.... after last year,
bettyellen
Dec 2017
#43
Its intreating we have to try to make up new words - weve relied on the denigration of others too
bettyellen
Dec 2017
#93
Is it me or are several people playing dumb here? Now theyre saying hes talking about a horse?
bettyellen
Dec 2017
#111
Moore rode a horse to the voting polling place, but I don't there was a horse on the stage with him
vkkv
Dec 2017
#149
Yeah , its an approach that resonates with sexist homophobic troglodytes - youre right.....
bettyellen
Dec 2017
#92
Thats all I am saying- its not something that works nationally, just places steeped in misogyny
bettyellen
Dec 2017
#112
Why not feminize and mock these misogynist pigs who like to pretend they are tough?
Doodley
Dec 2017
#105
Saying that a man is"wearing a cowboy suit" is not feminizing. It is reducing the target
Nitram
Dec 2017
#108
I guess I'm not up on my homophobic pejoratives. I haven't been around homophobes since I left home
Nitram
Dec 2017
#122
Sadly, Ive heard them a lot- even in NYC- because I went to fashion school and yeah it is a dog
bettyellen
Dec 2017
#124
bettyellen, there are two equally valid (unless we ask Doug Jones for clarification) interpretations
Nitram
Dec 2017
#131
I was responding to the connection between feminizing and infantilizing a person-
bettyellen
Dec 2017
#132
You jumped the shark a while back by pretending he was referring to the horse...
bettyellen
Dec 2017
#134
No bettyellen, pnwmom is right. We are not pretending, we are not dismissing the validity of
Nitram
Dec 2017
#135
I did NOT pretend or say or hint that gay students used it. YOU said you heard it at the Fashion
pnwmom
Dec 2017
#136
You suggested that students or teachers were using the words. Good lord, have you ever been to a
bettyellen
Dec 2017
#139
"religious freedom" - when referring to the "freedom" to discriminate on religious grounds
progree
Dec 2017
#24
Please remove the teenaged girl from the list. There are just as mean teenaged boys. n/t
pnwmom
Dec 2017
#8
Tina Fey has it right. "Mean Girls" are a particular feminine breed unto themselves.
maddiemom
Dec 2017
#58
I'd have called it a "Cowboy Costume", but yes, brilliant way to knock Crazy Roy down a peg or two
groundloop
Dec 2017
#19
When I heard that quote a week or two ago, I loved it. Perfect way to subtly put Moore down!
George II
Dec 2017
#39
"patriotism is not dressing up in a flight suit and prancing around on the deck of a... carrier"
Tactical Peek
Dec 2017
#72
Damn! And of course Bush wasn't even right about the end of major military action
yurbud
Dec 2017
#107