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yurbud

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67. I wish Hillary said what Elizabeth Warren did about his "business skills"

Sat Dec 16, 2017, 10:12 PM

Dec 2017

He could have made more money if he just put his inheritance in an index fund.

He went bankrupt running a business where addicts come in and demand to give you their money.

and so on.

He is the Kim Kardashian of politics (no offense to someone who got famous from self-made pornos).

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How Doug Jones Destroyed Roy Moores Whole Shtick with One Well-Chosen Verb [View all] yurbud Dec 2017 OP

So feminizing him w prancing worked on sexist assholes and we should learn what from that? Nope. bettyellen Dec 2017 #1

To some extent, I'm in favor of what will cause electoral victory. David__77 Dec 2017 #3

My oldest friend is a "word shamer" CCExile Dec 2017 #32

Victory is not to be underestimated. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #78

No, exposing him as a fake. He was on a STAGE, prancing around in a COSTUME. pnwmom Dec 2017 #4

yup totally agree gabeana Dec 2017 #5

. . . in a cowboy costume . . . Sam McGee Dec 2017 #7

Waving his tiny dick wasn't really an option, TheCowsCameHome Dec 2017 #9

Apparently, volstork Dec 2017 #23

Al Franken said something similar about Bush in 2004: dressing up like a pilot & cowboy yurbud Dec 2017 #61

Yes, he exposed him for his flim flam "Music Man," scam show. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #79

Well sure, but Jones wasn't referring to a HORSE, Jones was talking about male person. vkkv Dec 2017 #101

He was riding a horse, "prancing" across the "stage" in his "cowboy suit." Horses prance. pnwmom Dec 2017 #102

LOL- so now hes talking about a horse. HA HA HA. Nope. bettyellen Dec 2017 #110

He was riding a horse, "prancing" across a "stage" in his "cowboy suit." pnwmom Dec 2017 #117

So he was talking about dressage horsemanship? Okay, if you say so, LOL. bettyellen Dec 2017 #119

Jones wasn't being homophobic. It's stretching the bounds of logic to accuse him of that. n/t pnwmom Dec 2017 #120

Prancing has long been a dogwhistle to denigrate gay men. Its rarely used, but hey it works in bettyellen Dec 2017 #121

opposite of masculinity Perseus Dec 2017 #15

I agree. He's a faker of a man with a small brain and a small heart. n/t pnwmom Dec 2017 #80

I am female and I do not prance Skittles Dec 2017 #20

It's oft used to imply men are homosexual- am I the only one who knows that? bettyellen Dec 2017 #22

the man looked ridiculous Skittles Dec 2017 #27

didn't think once homosexual until you brought it up gabeana Dec 2017 #30

The phony part has nothing to do w prancing though. The extra punch that works on possible RWers is bettyellen Dec 2017 #35

Prancing has to do with horses, not women. In your effort to defend gay men, you're insulting women. pnwmom Dec 2017 #82

WOW. Youre totally ignorant of the history of using read feminine attributes to diminish people? So bettyellen Dec 2017 #113

No, I'm not. I'm disputing that "prancing" "stage" or "cowboy suit" are feminine terms. n/t pnwmom Dec 2017 #116

Cowboy suit? LOL. Stop pretending to be having an honest conversation. You know it was prancing and bettyellen Dec 2017 #118

You Were... Cheviteau Dec 2017 #48

Seriously? Thats weird. Maybe I watch too many old movies, LOL .... its bettyellen Dec 2017 #90

The word is appropriate because its primary use is to describe the gait of a horse. pnwmom Dec 2017 #81

You're reading the wrong thing into it. Jones called him out on his ridiculous cowboy outfit and... brush Dec 2017 #84

Because its still a slur.... bettyellen Dec 2017 #91

Oh, like that story of football players has something to do with pedophile Moore. brush Dec 2017 #97

Where is the word "prance" in that article? n/t pnwmom Dec 2017 #125

Pleading ignorance again? It is there. bettyellen Dec 2017 #140

So is the word "dance" feminine, too? I get the word ballerina, because that is the feminine pnwmom Dec 2017 #141

Post removed Post removed Dec 2017 #142

I didn't lie. I simply asked where it was, because I hadn't seen it. Why are you so accusatory? pnwmom Dec 2017 #143

LOL, another pivot! Big shocker there. Keep spinning. bettyellen Dec 2017 #146

How is directly answering your question a "pivot"? n/t pnwmom Dec 2017 #148

That would be a stereotype to suggest all men who prance around are gay, but it does point out Doodley Dec 2017 #106

That stereotype has been around a long time. Its weord so many never heard of it. I guess going to bettyellen Dec 2017 #109

You hear the word "prancing" a lot at Fashion school? Weird. I probably know pnwmom Dec 2017 #123

Directed toward gay students there? Yep. Also in films books movies and TV shows. bettyellen Dec 2017 #126

Who do you know who is directing that word at gay students at the Fashion School? pnwmom Dec 2017 #127

I just said it was not people AT school. Am done w your gaslighting nonsense- just like the GOP.... bettyellen Dec 2017 #129

You said "I guess going to Fashion school I notice it more than the average person. Weird." pnwmom Dec 2017 #137

You didnt realize fashion schools (as well as the industry)generally have a large contingent of gay bettyellen Dec 2017 #138

That's not what I said. I asked you who was saying it at the Fashion school, because that's pnwmom Dec 2017 #147

I dont always prance, but when I do, swimboy Dec 2017 #59

LOL Skittles Dec 2017 #60

I have a feeling Doug Jones used a word he thought would resonate with Alabama voters. jalan48 Dec 2017 #29

It pulled the legs out from under Moore's masculinity act. tinrobot Dec 2017 #34

It did for exactly that reason. It's just not something I love hearing.... bettyellen Dec 2017 #37

Isn't there a word for "ineffectively macho?" dchill Dec 2017 #42

We both know a dozen words linked to females that are used to shame men.... after last year, bettyellen Dec 2017 #43

I'm just looking for a better word. dchill Dec 2017 #44

well if you find one that doesn't denigrate the feminine, let me know. bettyellen Dec 2017 #45

Well, to me, "macho" is a synonym for "masculinely stupid." dchill Dec 2017 #47

And that word would not have resonated with the bigots, so thats awesome! bettyellen Dec 2017 #114

N/T Cheviteau Dec 2017 #49

Flaccid. Impotent. Puny. BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2017 #53

Okay, but none of those indicate the "but really trying" aspect. dchill Dec 2017 #69

How bout dis? BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2017 #70

You've inspired me. How about "man-fail?" dchill Dec 2017 #76

Its intreating we have to try to make up new words - weve relied on the denigration of others too bettyellen Dec 2017 #93

How is "prancing" feminizing? JenniferJuniper Dec 2017 #51

True... it is usually a term used for show horses. tinrobot Dec 2017 #71

Sort of in the same way that 'strutting' might suggest the masculine. vkkv Dec 2017 #98

Is it me or are several people playing dumb here? Now theyre saying hes talking about a horse? bettyellen Dec 2017 #111

Moore rode a horse to the voting polling place, but I don't there was a horse on the stage with him vkkv Dec 2017 #149

Yep. Moore did his act to show how strong, powerful and manly Sophia4 Dec 2017 #77

This female does not consider "prancing" or "costume" TNNurse Dec 2017 #87

I guess no one remembers its use to (negatively) imply homosexuality? bettyellen Dec 2017 #89

I thought he looked foolish and silly, and TNNurse Dec 2017 #95

Well...we did not learn anything...the point is...it works... mentalslavery Dec 2017 #88

Yeah , its an approach that resonates with sexist homophobic troglodytes - youre right..... bettyellen Dec 2017 #92

Yep.. its a way to trick the bama's into voting democratic mentalslavery Dec 2017 #104

Thats all I am saying- its not something that works nationally, just places steeped in misogyny bettyellen Dec 2017 #112

I don't see how using the word "prancing" is feminizing him & as a woman I'm catbyte Dec 2017 #94

Of course such use of language is immature, but there is a long history of vkkv Dec 2017 #100

I don't see any word or term in this jrthin Dec 2017 #103

Why not feminize and mock these misogynist pigs who like to pretend they are tough? Doodley Dec 2017 #105

Saying that a man is"wearing a cowboy suit" is not feminizing. It is reducing the target Nitram Dec 2017 #108

I meant the use of prancing.... its an old homophobic dog whistle. bettyellen Dec 2017 #115

I guess I'm not up on my homophobic pejoratives. I haven't been around homophobes since I left home Nitram Dec 2017 #122

Sadly, Ive heard them a lot- even in NYC- because I went to fashion school and yeah it is a dog bettyellen Dec 2017 #124

Exactly. He infantilized him. n/t pnwmom Dec 2017 #128

Wow, the connections all fly right over youre head. LOL. bettyellen Dec 2017 #130

bettyellen, there are two equally valid (unless we ask Doug Jones for clarification) interpretations Nitram Dec 2017 #131

I was responding to the connection between feminizing and infantilizing a person- bettyellen Dec 2017 #132

You have multiple progressives right here disagreeing with your assertion pnwmom Dec 2017 #133

You jumped the shark a while back by pretending he was referring to the horse... bettyellen Dec 2017 #134

No bettyellen, pnwmom is right. We are not pretending, we are not dismissing the validity of Nitram Dec 2017 #135

Youre arguing your points honestly, and dont hear the dog whistle. bettyellen Dec 2017 #145

I did NOT pretend or say or hint that gay students used it. YOU said you heard it at the Fashion pnwmom Dec 2017 #136

You suggested that students or teachers were using the words. Good lord, have you ever been to a bettyellen Dec 2017 #139

Brought language to a gunfight and won. Sneederbunk Dec 2017 #2

Language matters. Republicans have been experts at this for years. FuzzyRabbit Dec 2017 #11

"religious freedom" - when referring to the "freedom" to discriminate on religious grounds progree Dec 2017 #24

yep. people throw around a lot of metaphors about knives & spoons... yurbud Dec 2017 #62

So . . . Sam McGee Dec 2017 #6

Please remove the teenaged girl from the list. There are just as mean teenaged boys. n/t pnwmom Dec 2017 #8

Thank you. n/t BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2017 #54

Tina Fey has it right. "Mean Girls" are a particular feminine breed unto themselves. maddiemom Dec 2017 #58

How about Putin's fluffer? Volaris Dec 2017 #16

carnival barker is too nice--it implies someone who works for a living. yurbud Dec 2017 #63

"Richie Rich pitching a fit" yurbud Dec 2017 #64

Prancing isn't a verb Piasladic Dec 2017 #10

Grammar got run over by a reindeer underpants Dec 2017 #12

lol grantcart Dec 2017 #18

Alrighty now. You go to your room right now, smarty underpants. And BTW, you japple Dec 2017 #26

😝 underpants Dec 2017 #52

Made me laugh chia Dec 2017 #28

+1000 dchill Dec 2017 #41

. PunkinPi Dec 2017 #86

Subject shadowmayor Dec 2017 #17

It really is a sentence fragment - not a sentence karynnj Dec 2017 #21

He's prancing on stage... vkkv Dec 2017 #96

"the ten-gallon hat." Perseus Dec 2017 #13

When he deliberately hurt his horse Sassy BigmanPigman Dec 2017 #14

Im with you. Definitely! BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2017 #55

I'd have called it a "Cowboy Costume", but yes, brilliant way to knock Crazy Roy down a peg or two groundloop Dec 2017 #19

The whole idea that Alabamans are impressed with cowboy outfits FakeNoose Dec 2017 #33

there are plenty of ranchers/cowboys throughout the south east Kali Dec 2017 #38

Yup. When Jones said that, it conjured up this image: SunSeeker Dec 2017 #25

Holy Shit! rgbecker Dec 2017 #56

Sorry, maybe I should have had a warning. SunSeeker Dec 2017 #75

Gangnam Style japple Dec 2017 #57

A classic. SunSeeker Dec 2017 #73

That is actually Roy Moore in a wig. yurbud Dec 2017 #65

LOL SunSeeker Dec 2017 #74

you're right, ridicule has its place bucolic_frolic Dec 2017 #31

You've got to connect the dots with a wide tip marker for part of the audience yurbud Dec 2017 #66

I wish Hillary said what Elizabeth Warren did about his "business skills" yurbud Dec 2017 #67

What surprised me most.... mudstump Dec 2017 #36

Bazinga! And it probably was loaded with blanks. George II Dec 2017 #40

When I heard that quote a week or two ago, I loved it. Perfect way to subtly put Moore down! George II Dec 2017 #39

I remember what David Letterman said about Bush* dressing up as a cowboy Rhiannon12866 Dec 2017 #46

yes indeed Cryptoad Dec 2017 #50

Bush might not have known who Holmes was apart from the "no shit" quote yurbud Dec 2017 #68

"patriotism is not dressing up in a flight suit and prancing around on the deck of a... carrier" Tactical Peek Dec 2017 #72

You have a good memory! n/t pnwmom Dec 2017 #83

We should never forget his "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED" appearance groundloop Dec 2017 #99

Damn! And of course Bush wasn't even right about the end of major military action yurbud Dec 2017 #107

Isn't a lot like what Don John the Con does when he names people scarytomcat Dec 2017 #85

Is he still a dem colbertforpresident Dec 2017 #144