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bhikkhu

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35. It might also add that all the sums were paid back
Sun Mar 11, 2012, 07:04 PM
Mar 2012

...which kind of takes the edge off the "16 TRILLION!" thing. The one legitimate complaint about the program is that the loans were at a lower-than-market rate, which might not have been absolutely necessary. If the loans were at market rates, then the program might have made some millions more in interest...I forget the exact figure, but it wasn't huge in perspective.

The one other annoying thing about the story is, if anyone has been paying attention, the whole "secret loans revelation" meme has been trotted out regularly since shortly after the program was announced (very publicly) in 2008. A quick google search brings up lists of articles from here to then, though it seems there are still enough journalists around who's google-buttons are broken, and who never heard or the TARP program before, to keep the meme going with each new independent discovery.


edited to correct: not all the sums have been paid back. There are supposed to be a few billion still unpaid, but these were to banks on the edge of failure that haven't quite failed yet, but probably will. At which point the FDIC covers the sums outstanding, and then its more or less a wash as they would have had to anyway.

Bankrolling our own demise ,Thanks Shrub. orpupilofnature57 Mar 2012 #1
Now I understand why we are fighting over there...it's for for petroleum HereSince1628 Mar 2012 #2
DUzy. Scuba Mar 2012 #25
Mass embezzlement ArcticFox Mar 2012 #3
Ask Shrub ,Kitten eater ,and Kkkarl orpupilofnature57 Mar 2012 #4
One murder a villain, millions a hero. Numbers sanctify, my good fellow.--M. Verdoux valerief Mar 2012 #30
Gadzooks! that's almost exactly the size of the US national debt. 99th_Monkey Mar 2012 #5
Wow. NYC_SKP Mar 2012 #6
And then if the Pentagon could find their missing 2.3 Trillion$, we'd have a surplus. ~nt 99th_Monkey Mar 2012 #10
Let me see, per capita that works out to.... raging_moderate Mar 2012 #21
I may be wrong... Pilotguy Mar 2012 #7
It's in the report, right at the start muriel_volestrangler Mar 2012 #18
No problem - half of this can be recouped by simply defaulting on Uncle Sam's debt to Samantha Mar 2012 #8
This stuff makes my head hurt, but... cheapdate Mar 2012 #9
It wouldn't work at all n2doc Mar 2012 #11
Exactly. A guaranteed clusterf&%$. cheapdate Mar 2012 #12
Boner can go jump out a window the way Bush's enemies used to... saras Mar 2012 #32
If any of the Federal Reserve's loans go bad, the US Treasury is on the hook.. girl gone mad Mar 2012 #15
Good catch. dixiegrrrrl Mar 2012 #17
"An accounting methodology change" cheapdate Mar 2012 #22
Occupy the World--May Day 2012 solarman350 Mar 2012 #13
That's only $50,000 for every man, woman and child in America. Festivito Mar 2012 #14
That is an intelectually dishonest and misleading article Taitertots Mar 2012 #16
How dishonest or misleading? What's the normal flow of Fed Funds to Primary Dealers? leveymg Mar 2012 #19
It is dishonest because the total given is the sum of multiple consecutive overnight loans Taitertots Mar 2012 #20
Crickets.... Lucky Luciano Mar 2012 #24
$16T is equal to the GNP of the US. Nobody who understands this thinks the Fed handed a lump sum leveymg Mar 2012 #31
Then don't use the $16T figure. Lucky Luciano Mar 2012 #33
The $16T figure is a useful figure to show the extent of federal injection of liquidity to banks '08 leveymg Mar 2012 #36
I don't wholly disagree with you that the middle Lucky Luciano Mar 2012 #37
It doesn't take an act of Congress to redirect Fed liquidity measures from global banks to leveymg Mar 2012 #40
It might also add that all the sums were paid back bhikkhu Mar 2012 #35
Wouldn't that cover our "deficit" with a few tril left over? joanbarnes Mar 2012 #23
Not sure, from some of the replies maybe not all 16T are outstanding loans. NYC_SKP Mar 2012 #26
This is all to prop up $1 QUADRILLION in VAPOR derivatives. (yes quadrillion) grahamhgreen Mar 2012 #27
It is more like $700T last I checked....but Lucky Luciano Mar 2012 #28
Can we eliminate the derivatives market? NYC_SKP Mar 2012 #29
Do you have a variable annuity? Lucky Luciano Mar 2012 #34
Not sure, I have a matching donation by one employer to a AIG account, and STRS retirement. NYC_SKP Mar 2012 #38
Socialism? Someone really needs to look up the definition of socialism... Fearless Mar 2012 #39
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