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jg10003

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Tue Jun 7, 2016, 08:14 PM Jun 2016

Why Some of the Smartest Progressives I Know Will Vote for Trump over Hillary [View all]

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From Politico, By Yves Smith.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/06/wall-street-2016-donald-trump-hillary-clinton-213931#ixzz4AwTT7myk

This is not in support of Trump. The article, written by a highly regarded financial writer, is an analysis of why some highly educated and financially savvy progressives may vote for Trump. Rather than advocating for Trump, the article explains why many progressives are dissatisfied with Clinton.

Why do progressives reject Hillary Clinton? The highly educated, high-income, finance-literate readers of my website, Naked Capitalism, don’t just overwhelmingly favor Bernie Sanders. They also say “Hell no!” to Hillary Clinton to the degree that many say they would even vote for Donald Trump over her.

And they don’t come by these views casually. Their conclusions are the result of careful study of her record and her policy proposals. They believe the country can no longer endure the status quo that Clinton represents—one of crushing inequality, and an economy that is literally killing off the less fortunate—and any change will be better. One reader writes:

“If Clinton is the nominee 9 out of 10 friends I polled will [do one of three things]:

A. Not vote for president in November.
B. Vote for Trump.
C. Write in Bernie as a protest vote.

"We are all fifty-somethings with money and college educations. Oh, and we are all registered Democrats.”

Or as another reader puts it:

“I don’t want to vote for Trump. I want to vote for Bernie. But I have reached the point where I feel like voting for Trump against Clinton would be doing my patriotic duty. … If the only way to escape a trap is to gnaw off my leg, I’d like to think I’d have the guts to do it.”

To be sure, not all of my Sanders-supporting readers would vote for Trump. But only a minority would ever vote for Clinton, and I'd guess that a lot of them would just stay home if she were the nominee. Many of my readers tend to be very progressive, and they have been driven even further in that direction by their sophisticated understanding of the inequities of Wall Street, especially in the run-up to and the aftermath of the financial crisis, when no senior executives went to jail, the biggest banks got bigger, and Hillary paid homage to Goldman Sachs. True progressives, as opposed to the Vichy Left, recognize that the Clintons only helped these inequities along. They recognize that, both in the 1990s and now, the Clintons do not and have never represented them. They believe the most powerful move they can take to foster change is to withhold their support.

Some of them also have very reasoned arguments for Trump. Hillary is a known evil. Trump is unknown. They'd rather bet on the unknown, since it will also send a big message to Team Dem that they can no longer abuse progressives. I personally know women in the demographic that is viewed as being solidly behind Hillary—older, professional women who live in major cities—who regard Trump as an acceptable cost of getting rid of the Clintons.

Who does Naked Capitalism represent? The site, which I describe as “fearless commentary on finance, economics, politics and power,” receives 1.3 million to 1.5 million page views a month and has amassed approximately 80 million readers since its launch in 2006. Its readership is disproportionately graduate school-educated, older, male and high income. Despite the overall predominance of male readers, many of the fiercest critics of Clinton in the commentariat are women, with handles like HotFlash, Katniss Everdeen, Martha r, Portia, Bev and Pat.

What they also object to is that the larger bloc of Sanders voters has been treated with abuse and contempt by the Clinton camp, despite the fact that their positions—such as strengthening Social Security and Medicare, stronger educational funding and higher minimum wages—have for decades polled by solid majorities or, at worst, ample pluralities in the electorate at large.

By contrast, the Democratic Party in the Clinton and Obama administrations has consistently embraced and implemented policies that strip workers of economic and legal rights to benefit investors and the elite professionals that serve them. Over time, the “neoliberal” economic order—which sees only good, never bad, in the relentless untrammeling of capital and the deregulation of markets—has created an unacceptable level of economic insecurity and distress for those outside the 1 percent and the elite professionals who serve them.....




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anyone who votes for Trump is an IDIOT Skittles Jun 2016 #1
No kidding Stuckinthebush Jun 2016 #7
yes Mojorabbit Jun 2016 #24
If Trump gets elected TeacherB87 Jun 2016 #28
I agree so I don't know why the contentious tone Mojorabbit Jun 2016 #45
Right? ismnotwasm Jun 2016 #47
Not such a good read. stone space Jun 2016 #2
Anyone who wants to know what anyone is really going to do in November should ask Tal Vez Jun 2016 #3
Jury fail, but I learned a new word. "Trumphumping!" stone space Jun 2016 #4
The article DOES NOT advocate voting for Trump jg10003 Jun 2016 #10
she's a goddamn liar--there are zero progressives of any stripe--let alone savvy ones geek tragedy Jun 2016 #18
^^^THIS^^^ SunSeeker Jun 2016 #20
Then there are no progressives at-all. Chan790 Jun 2016 #36
My my ismnotwasm Jun 2016 #48
No...you, I called a neo-liberal anti-progressive. Chan790 Jun 2016 #59
I want to vote FOR someone before my life ends lapfog_1 Jun 2016 #5
That's why you don't play chicken with your vote. Flatpicker Jun 2016 #9
I feel the same as am getting long in the tooth OwlinAZ Jun 2016 #12
I have Mexican loved ones. ZombieHorde Jun 2016 #6
Why is this drivel in "Good Reads"? milestogo Jun 2016 #8
Someone should have had more respect for Democrats than to post it here.Maybe in "Bizarre Reads."nt Judi Lynn Jun 2016 #43
Absolute bullshit stopwastingmymoney Jun 2016 #11
Exactly! This OP is pure nonsense. Nitram Jun 2016 #16
if hillary has the opportunity to nominate justices, they will be conservative Doctor_J Jun 2016 #19
So it's better to elect Trump so his right-wing nominees can sail through the Senate? SunSeeker Jun 2016 #21
You mean conservative like Sotomeyer and Kagan? stopwastingmymoney Jun 2016 #22
He did provide a single name AllTooEasy Jun 2016 #13
I support Bernie all the way to the Convention, I do not see how Trump could be a acceptable ... marble falls Jun 2016 #14
"Being disatisfied with Clinton" and voting for Trump are two extremely different things. Nitram Jun 2016 #15
Yves Smith is a nutjob crank, and no progressive would consider voting for Trump. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #17
I wasn't planning to, but I recced this...just for you. n/t Chan790 Jun 2016 #37
Do you think that affects him in any way, shape or form? ismnotwasm Jun 2016 #49
Yes, actually. Chan790 Jun 2016 #60
More Naderite bullshit. Aristus Jun 2016 #23
Tremendous post! Appropriate. n/t Judi Lynn Jun 2016 #44
Are these the same type of 'Progressives' that would make an off-color joke on race... Earth_First Jun 2016 #25
You've literally just described every Clinton supporter I know personally. Chan790 Jun 2016 #39
Those people are neither liberal or smart. Just pouty. nt WhiteTara Jun 2016 #26
To punish the part or not? HassleCat Jun 2016 #27
Smart progressives voting for a guy who thinks we'll return to the 50's??? MichiganVote Jun 2016 #29
"If the only way to escape a trap is to gnaw off my leg, I’d like to think I’d have the guts to" GoneFishin Jun 2016 #30
They are not smart... quickesst Jun 2016 #31
A severe case of the "Nothing-But-The-Best-For-The-Oppressed" DinahMoeHum Jun 2016 #32
Self-absorbed assholes. The Sarrandon Syndrome. stopbush Jun 2016 #33
Ya know... Chan790 Jun 2016 #40
Ya know, I've been a Democrat since 1972, stopbush Jun 2016 #41
Congrats...you're old. Chan790 Jun 2016 #42
Age prejudice will get you nowhere, fast. Paladin Jun 2016 #58
I'm not prejudiced against old people... Chan790 Jun 2016 #61
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." Paladin Jun 2016 #62
short memories? raging moderate Jun 2016 #34
Any names? RandySF Jun 2016 #35
the people you are referring to... quickesst Jun 2016 #38
"the smartest progressives I know will vote for Trump" struggle4progress Jun 2016 #46
They are neither smart nor progressive Tarc Jun 2016 #50
Very odd. A group that reliably voted for Hillary in the primaries were the better educated whites tonyt53 Jun 2016 #51
K&R libodem Jun 2016 #52
to vote for trump is idiocy..... chillfactor Jun 2016 #53
Yves Smith is the pen name of Susan Weber Soros exwife of George MattP Jun 2016 #54
If I remember right Frances Jun 2016 #55
It's stupid. The_Casual_Observer Jun 2016 #56
I think the term "progressive" has lost any clarity of meaning. Beowulf Jun 2016 #57
Politico? Night Watchman Jun 2016 #63
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