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JohnnyRingo

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127. These aren't necessarily right wingers though

Mon May 2, 2016, 08:56 PM

May 2016

Sure, they may be to the right of you, but these are predominately blue collar union members who consistently vote Democratic. As moderates, it's hard to define them as Tea Party types as I know a number of those as well and the difference is stark.

This year they voted for Trump because they don't like Hillary. Don't think they're looking to Bernie to save them either, he made a distant third in the primary. Believe it or not, they consider Clinton too far to the left for their liking. This was the first year in my life that my Ohio county went Republican.

Only in DU is Hillary Clinton considered a right wing nut.

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"No, Jon Favreau: We Will Not Learn To Love Hillary Clinton" [View all] KoKo May 2016 OP

She's talking a good game. Talking. Autumn May 2016 #1

My thoughts exactly TrueDemVA May 2016 #2

No she's not JohnnyRingo May 2016 #9

Yea, ask a Koch boy... n/t tom_kelly May 2016 #13

Koch is giving. 1Billion to the GOP and downstate races lewebley3 May 2016 #100

did you actually hear what Koch said? maxsolomon May 2016 #121

Question TrueDemVA May 2016 #15

Jon Favreau can kiss my ass roguevalley May 2016 #16

When you are down to only vugerisms stop posting, you are out of ideas lewebley3 May 2016 #101

Please take your own advice LiberalLovinLug May 2016 #110

+1000000 SammyWinstonJack May 2016 #117

10th most liberal senator while she served JohnnyRingo May 2016 #41

And Anhony Kennedy is the 5th most liberal Justice on the Supreme Court. nt elljay May 2016 #44

You're right perception is everything LiberalLovinLug May 2016 #47

Thank you TrueDemVA May 2016 #55

You do realize most people don't pay enough attention to politics passiveporcupine May 2016 #50

Cats lostnfound May 2016 #65

Hillary HERSELF doesn't regard Hlllary as a liberal... Herman4747 May 2016 #56

You forgot to add Neo- SkyIsGrey May 2016 #22

You mean like the right paints Obama as a socialist zeemike May 2016 #26

If compromise to actually move forward is "triangulation", then democracy just doesn't work. Nitram May 2016 #61

Movement /=/ moving forward nt truebluegreen May 2016 #67

What a remarkable insight, green! Nitram May 2016 #69

As was yours. truebluegreen May 2016 #75

The same thingnis happening on the other side tymorial May 2016 #27

Ahhhh.. ReRe May 2016 #29

The blue collar people I talk to see things differently JohnnyRingo May 2016 #43

"Then they look at people on welfare who have the same exact things...." truebluegreen May 2016 #74

I do indeed try to explain JohnnyRingo May 2016 #92

"... it's hard to deny that people on welfare usually have the necessities of life, truebluegreen May 2016 #94

I didn't say that was my view. JohnnyRingo May 2016 #128

:facepalm: jeff47 May 2016 #109

People on welfare do indeed have the basic needs of life. JohnnyRingo May 2016 #130

Well, sure. ReRe May 2016 #96

These aren't necessarily right wingers though JohnnyRingo May 2016 #127

OK, I'll give you that... ReRe May 2016 #131

Continue you fight. JohnnyRingo May 2016 #133

everyone, outside the Bernie Bubble sees Hillary Clinton as a liberal, AlbertCat May 2016 #45

Yeah my compatriot Americans don't read books anymore lostnfound May 2016 #66

So now people who disagree with you don't read books. Nitram May 2016 #70

Hugs and kisses to you too lostnfound May 2016 #73

You're trying to reason with ... NanceGreggs May 2016 #51

You're right JohnnyRingo May 2016 #53

Only in your mind are Bernie supporters thinking that Autumn May 2016 #104

everyone outside the Clinton bubble sees her as a crook AgerolanAmerican May 2016 #107

She is not liberal in any sense of the word. The Koch Bros don't think she is liberal nor rhett o rick May 2016 #108

But the voters do see her as a liberal, and that's what counts JohnnyRingo May 2016 #132

I won't address all of your post but the drone attacks are illegally and considered war crimes. rhett o rick May 2016 #134

I haven't checked the liberal handbook in a while. JohnnyRingo May 2016 #135

This may help clear things up for you: bvar22 May 2016 #112

👆 This...x 💯 deathrind May 2016 #129

IF you compare her to Koch she's liberal Ferd Berfel May 2016 #122

Hillary is. very progressive: Sanders people are left wing tea baggers lewebley3 May 2016 #99

Ha ha ha ha ha TrueDemVA May 2016 #123

Favreau is right; but.its easy to love Hilary's fighting spirit! lewebley3 May 2016 #98

wait and see what she's like as President 6chars May 2016 #3

I haven't yet so I know I wont. ever roguevalley May 2016 #17

Yes, maybe we should wait and see gordyfl May 2016 #19

Why are you supporting the next Trump?! JackRiddler May 2016 #54

That might be alright if the Democratic Party had not gone along with the trickle down Enthusiast May 2016 #37

LOL Hissyspit May 2016 #72

Bernie Or Bust cantbeserious May 2016 #4

forever roguevalley May 2016 #18

+1 zillion MissDeeds May 2016 #24

Bernie is bust. It's over. eom reACTIONary May 2016 #30

the writer is smarter than bernie or bust certainot May 2016 #85

Then Again Maybe Not cantbeserious May 2016 #95

You must be working for the GOP lewebley3 May 2016 #103

"Hillary Clinton is bullshitting people on what she will do in office . . . Major Hogwash May 2016 #5

Of course they know it Plucketeer May 2016 #25

Me too. Enthusiast May 2016 #36

My new saying rtracey May 2016 #6

That crap is being peddled pretty much universally by "liberal" talk show hosts too. It is GoneFishin May 2016 #7

That is "Mainstream" Radio Talk Show Hosts... LovingA2andMI May 2016 #14

Try this station out of Chico, CA weknowvino2 May 2016 #23

Thanks. I will. GoneFishin May 2016 #40

Thanks. I am actively looking for alternatives. I will definitely check these out. GoneFishin May 2016 #39

Thanks.. disillusioned73 May 2016 #64

the more the better but until the left stops ignoring certainot May 2016 #90

here's what liberal talk radio is up against certainot May 2016 #89

Oh, the drama.. BeatleBoot May 2016 #8

I've only learned to despise her more stupidicus May 2016 #10

If I wanted to vote for a Republican pretending to be a Democrat... Chan790 May 2016 #12

indeed stupidicus May 2016 #20

The party has not shifted anywhere. The bought and paid for "Leadership" has gone full out fascist. Vincardog May 2016 #28

agreed to an extent stupidicus May 2016 #126

The theatrics are played out. Enthusiast May 2016 #35

liberals have missed all the bullshit while it was used to kick certainot May 2016 #91

I've only learned to despise her more AlbertCat May 2016 #46

You are trying to divide the Democratic Party HelenWheels May 2016 #97

that was done by the thirdwayers long ago stupidicus May 2016 #125

"She's running a ..." DeGreg May 2016 #11

Damn straight. MisterFred May 2016 #21

Will vote against zentrum May 2016 #31

I'm with you guys. If I lived in a swing state my vote would be against Trump but not for Hillary.. raindaddy May 2016 #32

In CT it will not likely matter kohodog May 2016 #33

Kicked and recommended to the Max! Enthusiast May 2016 #34

I've had 2 people tell me zalinda May 2016 #38

No one trusts her as far as I can throw Chris Christie, so all of her bullshit is just for the adori Doctor_J May 2016 #42

Bernie or Bust! chwaliszewski May 2016 #48

I didn't care for Hillary long before Bernie decided to run.... mudstump May 2016 #49

hes making it about him MFM008 May 2016 #52

Oh come off it, there is only 6 years between Bernie and Hillary fasttense May 2016 #57

Ageism? Nice.... Matt_in_STL May 2016 #79

That would be much easier to hear IF TBF May 2016 #58

The only hope is FlaGranny May 2016 #63

I'm telling the Bernie or busters that I know to at least vote downticket lostnfound May 2016 #68

The problem with the Trump voters is that they do like him TBF May 2016 #88

The thought of even pretending to "love Hillary Clinton" makes me retch. djean111 May 2016 #59

Trust must be earned, not given n/t n2doc May 2016 #60

And it is something darn near impossible to earn back. n/t jtuck004 May 2016 #115

Once Bitten, Twice Shy applies as well n/t n2doc May 2016 #118

Isn't it interesting that you rarely see a thread that is positive about Hillary on the front page? Victor_c3 May 2016 #62

Not much point in posting positive threads on Clinton, is there. Nitram May 2016 #71

True, I'll give you the mobbded part Victor_c3 May 2016 #81

Victor, are you as angry at every other Represeentative and Senator that voted the same way Nitram May 2016 #136

Yes and Yes Victor_c3 May 2016 #137

Did you support George Bush for president? Nitram May 2016 #139

Like Victor_c3, I'm also an unpleasant invective-spewing Bernie fan. But Hill's vote to put... ChisolmTrailDem May 2016 #113

How can I "Learn To Love Hillary Clinton"... dchill May 2016 #76

I thought Favreau was a conservative underpants May 2016 #77

I might be forced to vote for her but, that only makes me hate her more. Hiraeth May 2016 #78

Not voting for her..... ViseGrip May 2016 #80

Yes kind of sad. The establishment is still peeing down our backs and telling us PatrickforO May 2016 #82

Yes, we the oligarchs have made your choice. fasttense May 2016 #84

+1,000,000 n/t TIME TO PANIC May 2016 #102

Well written reply. Reading made my blood boil. PatrickforO May 2016 #124

...because we already love Hillary Clinton. MariaThinks May 2016 #83

yes you will. stonecutter357 May 2016 #86

You don't have to love a person, love has nothing to do with government bhikkhu May 2016 #87

We can probably make Hillary say just about anything to get elected... mudstump May 2016 #93

K&R avaistheone1 May 2016 #105

The right wing propaganda machine over the past 25 years has been Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #106

"lying is a strong word and given her profession (politician) let us use a nicer word, bullshitting" Spitfire of ATJ May 2016 #111

we dislike her for the same reasons we dislike Republicans MisterP May 2016 #114

Bullshitting...yes she is. Arrogantly and condescendingly bullshitting. Not falling for her BS! SammyWinstonJack May 2016 #116

This. Hatchling May 2016 #119

You still have time to grieve Progressive dog May 2016 #120

Wow Dan May 2016 #138