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patrice

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35. Inherently FALSE dichotomies are RNC stock-in-trade & the source of their power.
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 01:38 PM
Apr 2012

The RNC talks Plausible Deniability out-of-both-sides-of-their-mouths:

TTE, "The RNC can't make Nugent do or not do anything. He has a right to his views. Even if his choice of how to express himself is radical, everyone knows not to take him literally." In the next breath Republicans will extoll the DIVINE VIRTUES of the ultimate, life-or-death, commitment to VALUES, the UNNECESSARY war on Iraq comes to mind, as does also the murder of George Tiller, the shootings at Gabriel Gifford's rally ("Innocent people hurt? Well, shit happens.), and so-called "Stand your ground" gun laws.

All of which demonstrates that all of us SHOULD INDEED take Ted Nugent very VERY seriously, because he is speaking to REAL people willing and capable of hurting others, even if most of them don't engage in direct physical violence, they do take such HATE SPEECH, from celebrities especially, as A BLESSING on anyone to get a buzzzz on for _____________ by acting their delusions out. Nugent/Limbaugh et al speak to those who NEEEEED to find meaning in the struggles of daily life, or just to people operating on knee-jerk reflexes. Pseudo-spiritual DELUSIONS are extremely fertile grounds for violence at ALL levels.

My point here is that Republicans are schizophrenic: they say Nugent's behavior, and other such Republican behavior, does not matter - AND - they say that positions like this and its contingent behaviors ARE manifestations of one's VALUES, which they claim are from God, so acting upon one's values, just like WAR, is evidence of one's true relationship to the divine. IOW, certain behaviors matter ONLY when the RNC, speaking for God, says that they do or don't.

Just like DIVINE-RIGHT monarchs, The-Powers-that-Be USE the confusion generated by "It doesn't matter" & "ULTIMATE commitment to values is salvation" to do WHATEVER they want.

Man, what a dickhead chrisa Apr 2012 #1
Maybe Teddy will shit his pants for real this time thelordofhell Apr 2012 #2
He should have been in jail already for being a pedophile E-Z-B Apr 2012 #3
So I hear AnnieK401 Apr 2012 #90
They always get by with it get the red out Apr 2012 #4
He's a regular on the GOP political tours. He's twisted just like them. freshwest Apr 2012 #54
Nothing Will Happen, No One Will Apologize otohara Apr 2012 #5
+ 1 n/t ejbr Apr 2012 #89
Ted Nugent wore his pants for thirt days to get out of military service. Lint Head Apr 2012 #6
Is this true? GiveMeFreedom Apr 2012 #10
http://www.newshounds.us/2007/08/26/proof_ted_nugent_is_a_draft_dodger_will_hannity_keep_defending_h wilsonbooks Apr 2012 #14
He said it himself. The Daily Mail Indepenent story is old and cannot be found but Lint Head Apr 2012 #16
Yes it's true. He's told the story himself many times. proud2BlibKansan Apr 2012 #42
...so how is this guy such a hero to this demographic, many vetetans?! Earth_First Apr 2012 #91
Good Politicalboi Apr 2012 #7
It's very hard to listen to his psychotic rant. Seedersandleechers Apr 2012 #8
I had a friend wilt the stilt Apr 2012 #9
Is there a statue of limitations on pederasty? Warren Stupidity Apr 2012 #11
He's not the only one Iliyah Apr 2012 #12
I got his autograph TlalocW Apr 2012 #13
Good story dmr Apr 2012 #73
He's not going to hurt anyone, and the Secret Service knows it. JohnnyRingo Apr 2012 #15
He's not gonna hurt anyone because he is a coward who enjoys killing naive animals. Lint Head Apr 2012 #18
He doesn't have the nerve to kill anyone. JohnnyRingo Apr 2012 #81
Absolutely. You couldn't have know that he was a hippocrit at that time. Lint Head Apr 2012 #96
Don't be so certain that he wouldn't do it. His words remind hedgehog Apr 2012 #94
Has Ted ever been in an actual fight with anyone or does he just talk tough? mysuzuki2 Apr 2012 #17
Apparently the idea of "country before party" is lost on some people Bruce Wayne Apr 2012 #19
Ted is a certifiable nut job, but Meiko Apr 2012 #20
I see it as a threat. He should be arrested. Kingofalldems Apr 2012 #22
He does have a lot of guns Meiko Apr 2012 #24
The SS will check it out because of what he said. PotatoChip Apr 2012 #32
The Ss will visit him as soon as the prostitutes leave their rooms. russspeakeasy Apr 2012 #25
Ted Nugent Liberty-Death Apr 2012 #50
I suppose there are a couple of different ways to take it 4th law of robotics Apr 2012 #53
I vote for "dead". nt Cheap_Trick Apr 2012 #21
Why not both? AlbertCat Apr 2012 #29
If donquijoterocket Apr 2012 #43
Spokesperson and member of the Board of Directors of the NRA. safeinOhio Apr 2012 #23
has it occured to anyone in the NRA rank and file gejohnston Apr 2012 #26
He has a constitutional right to be an asshole, unfortunately..... PDJane Apr 2012 #27
Fuck Nugent. Fuck the Republican Death Cult NRA, and EVERYONE who gives them money n/t DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2012 #28
+1 freshwest Apr 2012 #68
massive gun sales increase as black president elected - NRA's fantasy comes true nt msongs Apr 2012 #30
Time to resurrect the "Chuck & Chuck Show" AlbertCat Apr 2012 #31
A disproportionate number of Republicans seem eager to use violence young_at_heart Apr 2012 #33
I was a Nugent fan unionworks Apr 2012 #34
Inherently FALSE dichotomies are RNC stock-in-trade & the source of their power. patrice Apr 2012 #35
A has been rocker with some guitar skills..... MindMover Apr 2012 #36
Appropriate punishment for him bongbong Apr 2012 #37
I would add just one thing to what you suggest Bombero1956 Apr 2012 #84
I would add just one thing to what you suggest Bombero1956 Apr 2012 #85
What a flaming douche-nozzle. Chorophyll Apr 2012 #38
Every time he opens his mouth he gets dumber and dumber! nonoxy9 Apr 2012 #39
What a POS catbyte Apr 2012 #40
Roger that The Wizard Apr 2012 #88
No guitars or young girls in jail, Ted proud2BlibKansan Apr 2012 #41
Better hope Ted doesn't drop the soap... Jamaal510 Apr 2012 #44
Jamal, that wasn't nice. MADem Apr 2012 #49
Lo siento. Jamaal510 Apr 2012 #64
I don't think Jamal was advocating prison rape, just stating a fact, sex offenders crunch60 Apr 2012 #66
Jamal can speak for himself, and he did. MADem Apr 2012 #71
So you control this message board? I didn't take Jamal's comment like a joke, but crunch60 Apr 2012 #79
You're the one who answered for another poster, not me. nt MADem Apr 2012 #82
Actually, I hope he does. proud2BlibKansan Apr 2012 #63
Hardly a "proud to be lib" position--to hope someone gets raped in custody. MADem Apr 2012 #72
Note to smug Tea Party members. You are consorting with crazy. nolabear Apr 2012 #45
Maybe he meant he'd kill himself or rob a liquor store. caseymoz Apr 2012 #46
re:So ... Ted Nugent Threatened to Assassinate President Obama? (Updated: Secret Service Is On It) allan01 Apr 2012 #47
GOOD. He absolutely should have the Secret Service looking into it. calimary Apr 2012 #48
only like Fred Bear PatrynXX Apr 2012 #51
Secret Service will deal with it ashling Apr 2012 #52
Didn't Homer Simpson endorse Ted Nugent when he become a talk show host? iandhr Apr 2012 #55
No, that was Hannity alfredo Apr 2012 #58
Same guy. Ikonoklast Apr 2012 #87
Hannity is a chickenhawk. alfredo Apr 2012 #100
Yes creeksneakers2 Apr 2012 #67
Hopefully he will be in jail notadmblnd Apr 2012 #56
As a guitarist WCGreen Apr 2012 #57
Meanwhile in freeperville... alp227 Apr 2012 #59
Holy crap, they're legitimately crazy. Bladian Apr 2012 #76
"Having more guns than Mendocino Apr 2012 #60
NRA Spokesman Number One. nt onehandle Apr 2012 #61
Ted Nugent's guns should be confiscated immediately Kingofalldems Apr 2012 #62
The gun-centric American Rightwing: Thinking up new ways to imply they'll shoot you since 1867. DirkGently Apr 2012 #65
Chop Their Heads Off jade3000 Apr 2012 #69
Kinda sad really as it sounds more like a washed up drunk musician trying to get attention. cstanleytech Apr 2012 #70
His career must be tanking. Any publicity is good publicity... McCamy Taylor Apr 2012 #74
Old poopy pants is just mouthing off. He's too much of a coward to do anything. Crunchy Frog Apr 2012 #75
Ted's Gone Off The Deep End colsohlibgal Apr 2012 #77
This guy is a self important Ass Clown Thrill Apr 2012 #78
Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeere's Ted's Top Ten . . . tilsammans Apr 2012 #80
Let's see the Repugs rally 'round this POS Canuckistanian Apr 2012 #83
Did you know: Nugent claimed he had no idea that Journey to the Center of the Mind was about drugs. Towlie Apr 2012 #86
Vote Obama in 2012 Botany Apr 2012 #92
WORD. If I even had the slightest trace of apathy about going to the polling place bullwinkle428 Apr 2012 #97
Nugent amuse bouche Apr 2012 #93
I will say this to ted nugents face......I spent 13 months in combat ...didn't see ted nugent.... Namvet67 Apr 2012 #95
They are not investigating Alcibiades Apr 2012 #98
Ted Nugent is a foul mouth idiot. Beacool Apr 2012 #99
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