It's not going to happen in California this year. (Reply #90)

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Mon Apr 16, 2012, 12:24 PM

90. It's not going to happen in California this year.

There are four differerent legalization initiatives, but none of them have the money to hire signature-gatherers to get enough signatures to make the ballot. It costs between $1 million and $2 million to run a signature-gathering campaign in California.

There are also ongoing efforts in Idaho, Michigan, Missouri, and Nebraska, but they look unlikely to make the ballot, either.

Oregon and Montana could still make it.

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93 replies	Author	Time	Post
Obama says drug legalization not answer to cartels [View all]	bluedigger	Apr 2012	OP
Obama couldn't be more mistaken about that issue.	loudsue	Apr 2012	#1
For Obama, its worse to be seen as soft on crime than endorse legalization n/t	AZ Progressive	Apr 2012	#11
You're absolutely right!	duhneece	Apr 2012	#16
Can you show me one legitimate study that concludes that	Ruby the Liberal	Apr 2012	#49
I don't believe marijuana is addicting	duhneece	Apr 2012	#88
...and we continue on the path of insanity	Bo	Apr 2012	#69
I concur your statement...nt	and-justice-for-all	Apr 2012	#70
From the posts here, I would again suggest The President Has a Growing MJ Problem	FlaGatorJD	Apr 2012	#92
Oh please	Politicalboi	Apr 2012	#2
I don't care if Republicans wants to nail them	anti-alec	Apr 2012	#17
Did you notice that the GOP has open season on him no matter what he does?	Bluenorthwest	Apr 2012	#18
Bravo!!	CrispyQ	Apr 2012	#22
sorry but he's not really a stand up kind of guy on many issues the public is ahead with nt	msongs	Apr 2012	#34
Exactly!	Phlem	Apr 2012	#51
"strong economics, rules of law and a law enforcement infrastructure"	Ken Burch	Apr 2012	#62
The problem with President Obama's logic	felix_numinous	Apr 2012	#67
Prohibition II.	PavePusher	Apr 2012	#76
sorry, President Obama, but you are wrong on that one...we've had 50 years of War on Drugs...	rfranklin	Apr 2012	#3
Whoever that's advising Obama on his drug policy	Jamaal510	Apr 2012	#4
The only way legalization will ever happen	cbrer	Apr 2012	#5
It would be an answer to the prison industrial complex	phantom power	Apr 2012	#6
Our government is addicted to the drug war. nt	killbotfactory	Apr 2012	#7
We need a Canadian, "quit prosecuting and persecuting" styled approach to drugs	Kolesar	Apr 2012	#8
Ever since the Willie Horton ads, politicians have been afraid to be seen as soft on crime n/t	AZ Progressive	Apr 2012	#9
Not the answer to winning Pres Elections. shhhhh	BootinUp	Apr 2012	#10
Not one to take a stand, is he.	Warren Stupidity	Apr 2012	#12
Anyone expect anything different from Obama on an Election Year? n/t	AZ Progressive	Apr 2012	#13
...or any year? n/t	Duer 157099	Apr 2012	#20
Obama is dead wrong	anti-alec	Apr 2012	#14
No, hes just not suicidal enough to agree that making drugs legal may be the answer.	cstanleytech	Apr 2012	#27
The fact that he's open to listening to the other leaders on this is huge imo	Voice for Peace	Apr 2012	#45
Then why isn't his methodology working?	Bluenorthwest	Apr 2012	#15
This is bullshit	limpyhobbler	Apr 2012	#19
But If You Don't Vote For Him, A Repub Might Win	SoCalMusicLover	Apr 2012	#26
I'll still vote for him. The alternative is much worse.	limpyhobbler	Apr 2012	#41
Obama walks into a war zone and states LAW ENFORCEMENT is the answer	think	Apr 2012	#21
The stupid thing here is, the William Bennett types he's trying to appease with this stance	Ken Burch	Apr 2012	#23
^ Exactly. ^ n/t	Mimosa	Apr 2012	#53
The War on Drugs is the Most Sacred Cow in Washington	AndyTiedye	Apr 2012	#24
The President really has his head up his butt	pscot	Apr 2012	#25
Really?	abelenkpe	Apr 2012	#28
Well, we did manage to outsource most of the associated violence.	bluedigger	Apr 2012	#29
+1 Nice rebuttal	think	Apr 2012	#30
What's different today? They globalized IranContra	EFerrari	Apr 2012	#33
yeah, iran-contra	newspeak	Apr 2012	#60
The drug war is so pre-9/11 thinking.	EFerrari	Apr 2012	#61
Stop listening to advisers, and do the right thing!	Gregorian	Apr 2012	#31
'He said the responsibility also rests with countries that are big destinations for the drugs	EFerrari	Apr 2012	#32
Especially if you are Wells Fargo!	bluedigger	Apr 2012	#36
Yep. So none of this has anything to do with drugs	EFerrari	Apr 2012	#37
Sigh. He knows he's wrong. He's not an idiot. He just doesn't want to pick this battle.	SunSeeker	Apr 2012	#35
Not to mention without the support of both houses he cant overturn the federal laws regarding	cstanleytech	Apr 2012	#43
Yup. Like so many things on our (and his) wish list.	SunSeeker	Apr 2012	#47
Not true...	Mimosa	Apr 2012	#54
In blue CA, only 46% of voters favored legal pot in 2010.	SunSeeker	Apr 2012	#64
More independents and conservatives are for liberalizing drug laws.	Mimosa	Apr 2012	#71
So why isn't pot legal in Mississippi?	SunSeeker	Apr 2012	#85
In related news, food not answer to hunger.	drokhole	Apr 2012	#38
Then you, sir, are a fucking idiot.	Zhade	Apr 2012	#39
I agree the policy has failed and will likely continue to fail however that doesnt make him an	cstanleytech	Apr 2012	#44
I tend not to vote for guys who want to throw me in jail.	Comrade Grumpy	Apr 2012	#40
So you'll vote for no one and let Romney win? nt	SunSeeker	Apr 2012	#48
I live in a state that won't be in play. I have the luxury of considering third party candidates.	Comrade Grumpy	Apr 2012	#52
The hoary 'good cop, bad cop' tactic again	Mimosa	Apr 2012	#72
So you'll vote for some 3rd party and get Romney elected?	SunSeeker	Apr 2012	#87
Living in fear isn't living	Mimosa	Apr 2012	#93
Well, the cartels certainly want strict drug laws in America. n/t	krispos42	Apr 2012	#42
...	handmade34	Apr 2012	#46
Beating the Drug-War Addiction	bluedigger	Apr 2012	#50
Legalization is PART of the answer, but not all of it, n/t	rayofreason	Apr 2012	#55
I'd say decriminalization but not legalization.	randome	Apr 2012	#66
Treatment centers for pot?	Fumesucker	Apr 2012	#74
We already have a successful study of the effectiveness of legalization..	bamacrat	Apr 2012	#56
Neither is the current plan	JonLP24	Apr 2012	#57
Really Mr. Obama.	GeorgeGist	Apr 2012	#58
I'm not going to bother	unionworks	Apr 2012	#59
On an election year, any other answer would be idiocy.	Akoto	Apr 2012	#63
Exactly. He can't get congress to pass infrastructure improvements. Legal heroin? Pfft.	SunSeeker	Apr 2012	#68
So, you're saying the President is too weak to get anything done...	Mimosa	Apr 2012	#73
Ever heard of something called a filibuster?	SunSeeker	Apr 2012	#86
I think marijuana legalization will happen in quite a few states this year.	joshcryer	Apr 2012	#78
It's already on the ballot in Colorado and Washington.	Comrade Grumpy	Apr 2012	#83
Yep, I'm in Colorado. It's well done. Isn't CA trying again, too?	joshcryer	Apr 2012	#84
It's not going to happen in California this year.	Comrade Grumpy	Apr 2012	#90
We are winning the war on drugs and the war in Afghanistan	rusty fender	Apr 2012	#65
it worked for prohibition.	Kablooie	Apr 2012	#75
I honestly don't believe he believes that.	joshcryer	Apr 2012	#77
^ True^ Luck of the draw. ^	Mimosa	Apr 2012	#79
It would have improved his life greatly if he had been busted..	Fumesucker	Apr 2012	#80
I know you're being cheeky / sarcastic. But seriously? He'd be dead...	joshcryer	Apr 2012	#81
Obama's Christian beliefs are so strong they inform his policy choice on gay marriage..	Fumesucker	Apr 2012	#82
This is more than about growing your own pot.	E-Z-B	Apr 2012	#89
LOL! Good thing he already cashed Bill Maher's check! nt	cyberpj	Apr 2012	#91

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