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In reply to the discussion: Judge won't release former Alabama Governor Siegelman on appeal bond [View all]former9thward
(31,981 posts)25. A pardon can't be applied for until five years after release.
Under the Department's rules governing petitions for executive clemency, an applicant must satisfy a minimum waiting period of five years before he becomes eligible to apply for a presidential pardon of his federal conviction. The waiting period begins to run on the date of the petitioner's release from confinement. Alternatively, if the conviction resulted in a sentence that did not include any form of confinement, the waiting period begins on the date of sentencing.
http://www.justice.gov/pardon/forms.htm
So let's stop with "he hasn't asked for a pardon" nonsense.
He can apply for a commutation of a sentence. However:
4. Completion of court challenges
A request for a commutation of a prison sentence generally is not accepted unless and until a person has begun serving that sentence. In addition, a commutation request generally is not accepted from a person who is currently challenging his or her conviction or sentence through appeal or other court proceeding. Accordingly, you should not complete and submit this petition until you have concluded all judicial challenges to your conviction and sentence and you have begun serving your sentence. You should also be aware that, in evaluating the merits of a commutation petition, clemency authorities take into consideration the amount of time the petitioner has already served and the availability of other remedies to secure the relief sought (such as parole or judicial action).
http://www.justice.gov/pardon/commutation_instructions.htm
Siegelman is still in appeals so he can't apply. There is nothing stopping Obama from granting either a pardon or commutation on his own. That is his Constitutional right which is not allowed to be impeded or questioned.
Every time there is a thread on this you come in to provide cover for Obama by saying there has been no application. Now other posters will see what you are doing.
http://www.justice.gov/pardon/forms.htm
So let's stop with "he hasn't asked for a pardon" nonsense.
He can apply for a commutation of a sentence. However:
4. Completion of court challenges
A request for a commutation of a prison sentence generally is not accepted unless and until a person has begun serving that sentence. In addition, a commutation request generally is not accepted from a person who is currently challenging his or her conviction or sentence through appeal or other court proceeding. Accordingly, you should not complete and submit this petition until you have concluded all judicial challenges to your conviction and sentence and you have begun serving your sentence. You should also be aware that, in evaluating the merits of a commutation petition, clemency authorities take into consideration the amount of time the petitioner has already served and the availability of other remedies to secure the relief sought (such as parole or judicial action).
http://www.justice.gov/pardon/commutation_instructions.htm
Siegelman is still in appeals so he can't apply. There is nothing stopping Obama from granting either a pardon or commutation on his own. That is his Constitutional right which is not allowed to be impeded or questioned.
Every time there is a thread on this you come in to provide cover for Obama by saying there has been no application. Now other posters will see what you are doing.
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Judge won't release former Alabama Governor Siegelman on appeal bond [View all]
laserhaas
Dec 2014
OP
This is what can happen to any of us if we dare to go against the corrupt autoritarian corporate
geretogo
Dec 2014
#5
That is absolute bull$hit. The federal prosecutor was appointed by Bush and is the primary problem
okaawhatever
Dec 2014
#69
He hasn't filled for a pardon. Although CT and ODS abound on this issue, the fact is that
msanthrope
Dec 2014
#18
Obama sent a White House attorney to interview Siegelman about a possible pardon
okaawhatever
Dec 2014
#68
Um..he hasn't filed for a pardon, or a commutation. And if President Obama is gonna start
msanthrope
Dec 2014
#19
Are you kidding me? The politically connected ex-Gov should be able to circumvent the pardon
msanthrope
Dec 2014
#24
And he's completely wrong--as I demostrate in post 31, using his own links. nt
msanthrope
Dec 2014
#32
Laser....all any DUer on this board need do is run your username in the helpful box provided
msanthrope
Dec 2014
#33
As I've said before....the governor should and can fill out the paperwork. If and when he
msanthrope
Dec 2014
#48
Who did Cheney pardon? I thought he might wait until Bush was out for his Colonoscopy, when Cheney
24601
Dec 2014
#62
Or were you thinking of Bill Clinton and the Marc Rich Pardon? Here's link to information on Bill
24601
Dec 2014
#64
The Truth Need No Disguise (In re Hazel ATlas Glass v Hartford Empire U.S. Sup Ct. 1994)
laserhaas
Dec 2014
#42
I actually think Siegelman deserves review. And he's lucky enough, that unlike the vast majority of
msanthrope
Dec 2014
#46
Holder agrees president not bound by DOJ regs: “The president’s pardon power is close to absolute.”
deurbano
Dec 2014
#35
And doesn't the party requesting pardon have to ADMIT GUILT?? I thought that was a piece of the
MADem
Dec 2014
#73
The guy is pretty much screwed then--I don't think Obama will flout DOJ guidelines with 2 years left
MADem
Dec 2014
#76
That is a bunch of bull$hit. Obama sent a heavy hitter down to Alabama to interview Siegelman
okaawhatever
Dec 2014
#70
All this happened because Siegelman told the world that the 2002 election in Alabama was dirty
Botany
Dec 2014
#21
Persecuted to the fullest extent of the law for the crime of being a successful DEMOCRAT.
Octafish
Dec 2014
#43
He's guilty of being a powerful Dem in a GOP world of power (that's losing control)
laserhaas
Dec 2014
#57
Holder is a Oligarch brown noser. Though it is good rids, don't except better from the lifer.
laserhaas
Dec 2014
#65
Holder and Elena Kagen were just following orders from their boss, President Barack Obama
red dog 1
Dec 2014
#66