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cleduc

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62. As a child born in the 50s,

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 08:51 PM

Dec 2014

there was still a fair amount of discussion about World War II. A key thing said repeatedly at the time (in the 60s for me as to when I can recollect it as a boy) that supposedly separated the Allies from the Nazis or Japanese was our position on torture.

So I don't get the poll and I'm having trouble believing it or accepting it. It certainly wasn't what people seemed to feel widely about torture when I was growing up.

Maybe I'm naive. But my feelings about torture haven't changed in 50+ years. It's just simply wrong.

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Majority in U.S. say CIA interrogation methods were justified [View all] alp227 Dec 2014 OP

Brainwashed by the show "24", talk radio and FOX uhnope Dec 2014 #1

k and r riversedge Dec 2014 #20

Do you pay your premiums and subscribe to TV? JDPriestly Dec 2014 #42

Phil Donahue was fired by "liberal" MSNBC bananas Dec 2014 #63

good advice! I've never paid for cable & placed the $50 a month into savings. Sunlei Dec 2014 #77

They shouldn't complain when their kids in the military end up tortured. olegramps Dec 2014 #58

In case you missed it Snow Leopard Dec 2014 #74

not on videos/images posted in public. Transparency, the exposure will make a change & hopefully Sunlei Dec 2014 #79

No, I didn't miss it. Are you implying this justifies our use of torture? olegramps Dec 2014 #83

No Snow Leopard Dec 2014 #86

I weep for my republic. ColesCountyDem Dec 2014 #2

When nobody is ever held accountable, the logical conclusion was that it must have TwilightGardener Dec 2014 #3

It says something that would quickly get a DUer banned from the Obama group on DU. JDPriestly Dec 2014 #43

President O. was the one who ordered this report done, years ago. Sunlei Dec 2014 #80

LOL I love how you can even twist this into Obama's fault. Drunken Irishman Dec 2014 #82

I don't believe it Faux pas Dec 2014 #4

+1 blkmusclmachine Dec 2014 #65

What percentage are aware of all the methods that were actually used? n/t PoliticAverse Dec 2014 #5

or that no incidents were prevented? GreatGazoo Dec 2014 #76

precisely why there needs to be a trial grasswire Dec 2014 #6

And this is why you probably wouldnt get a conviction for torture cstanleytech Dec 2014 #7

Actually, you probably would get a conviction. JDPriestly Dec 2014 #45

The only defendant that has the benefit of doubt is a white man (double that if a right-wing) mazzarro Dec 2014 #55

Do you mean like those white guys beheaded by IS? Flatulo Dec 2014 #60

That's obscene malthaussen Dec 2014 #8

The media is using polling questions to warp the debate...they are as guilty as anyone...they are Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #10

Perhaps they asked if more approved of torture than Congress malthaussen Dec 2014 #33

Do you approve of forced rectal feedings, simulated drownings, beatings, hanging by ropes, etc.? Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #34

What does "forced rectal feedings" mean? JDPriestly Dec 2014 #46

Or people were confused and thought they said torture OF Congress. They might approve of that. Shrike47 Dec 2014 #54

This is where "Lesser of Two Evils" thinking takes us...[n/t] Maedhros Dec 2014 #19

Why do you think we have the death penalty joeglow3 Dec 2014 #9

That opinion poll in no way "proves" that torture is legal or required. nt ladjf Dec 2014 #11

Well, nobody surveyed me. calimary Dec 2014 #12

yes well, that's why we have courts and don't try criminals by public opinion. nashville_brook Dec 2014 #13

Thank you. I think that a good lawyer probably could get a conviction. JDPriestly Dec 2014 #48

Then America should hang her head in shame for a very long time NoJusticeNoPeace Dec 2014 #14

Anything goes if you're a cop or a torturer. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2014 #15

Yep. Bluenorthwest Dec 2014 #18

or a wall street banker, or have a case of 'affluenza'...etc.. n/t iscooterliberally Dec 2014 #26

Even if you're a cop AND a torturer, everything pretty much still goes. (Jon Burge, KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #72

American Exceptionalism on display? old guy Dec 2014 #16

Indeed and exactly right on display at the top of the mountain! mazzarro Dec 2014 #56

The movie fantasy they picture is nothing like the reality. Ash_F Dec 2014 #17

It appears that a majority of assholes need to be water boarded. . . . BigDemVoter Dec 2014 #21

This message was self-deleted by its author guyton Dec 2014 #22

Bullshit. truthisfreedom Dec 2014 #23

Yup, skewed or skewered. Dont call me Shirley Dec 2014 #30

I raise your bullshit and put it atop Bullshit Mountain, the question is amazing skewed, a Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #36

Sadly, this is no surprise to me at all. We are in a dark phase for our species. NRaleighLiberal Dec 2014 #24

I read the entire article and went to the Pew website linked in the article, and nowhere.... George II Dec 2014 #25

Here. OilemFirchen Dec 2014 #59

I am not seeing the word torture in there. Ash_F Dec 2014 #68

This is the inevitable consequence of an uncritical public, slumcamper Dec 2014 #27

Just over half of Americans are fucking wrong. Agnosticsherbet Dec 2014 #28

I just do not believe that. That many people are that brainwashed!? Dont call me Shirley Dec 2014 #29

23% reported they paid much attention to the Senate report....and the question pertained to Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #31

If this is true, Brigid Dec 2014 #32

Headline would be more accurate if stated: Majority US opinion on CIA torture are clueless Jefferson23 Dec 2014 #35

Majority opinion about 13 year old "interrogation techniques" tells us nothing about the now, the Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #37

I agree, and most polls suck one way or another. Yet, Americans should be better Jefferson23 Dec 2014 #39

Most "Christians" support torture Android3.14 Dec 2014 #38

Why Most Republicans are sometimes mistaken for Fascist ! Cryptoad Dec 2014 #40

in these times heaven05 Dec 2014 #41

It kinda makes sense, Trillo Dec 2014 #44

the ends justify the means.... mike_c Dec 2014 #47

A basic tenent of Christianity morality is the ends do not justify the means. olegramps Dec 2014 #84

In other words, we are all fucked, and the majority are stupid, ignorant idiots. longship Dec 2014 #49

This is what happens when you have bullshit on tv ...like "24". L0oniX Dec 2014 #50

It's a steady rythem to desensitize stupid people who might otherwise be more conscientious. Judi Lynn Dec 2014 #53

We have become a country of 'good Germans'. TM99 Dec 2014 #51

Then the majority of Americans SamKnause Dec 2014 #52

Eight Decades Ago in Germany, Hockey Dad Dec 2014 #57

I'm Convinced If It Came Out That BushCo Planned 9/11 & Made It Happen On Purpose That...... global1 Dec 2014 #61

As a child born in the 50s, cleduc Dec 2014 #62

God Damn This Country. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #64

So half the country is SICK. freshwest Dec 2014 #66

Majority of Nazis say SS efforts justified. SansACause Dec 2014 #67

I keep hearing that Republicans will die out soon. Kablooie Dec 2014 #69

this goes to show... Javaman Dec 2014 #70

Who the eff were they polling JackInGreen Dec 2014 #71

hearts and minds librechik Dec 2014 #73

wonder how many torture lovers are also hitters of their own offspring? Sunlei Dec 2014 #75

Garbage in, garbage out Bradical79 Dec 2014 #78

Were ours an honest news media, the majority would feel otherwise. Octafish Dec 2014 #81

On the bright side 16th century methods are viewed as barbaric One_Life_To_Give Dec 2014 #85

bullshit poll by used to be news paper olddots Dec 2014 #87