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bravenak

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27. Paying sub minimum wage money hurts poor workers.

Fri Nov 21, 2014, 01:03 AM

Nov 2014

I'd rather compete with an immigrant for a decent paying job than to have him paid slave wages to do the job.
There should not be an under the table, sub starvation wage job market.

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Obama announces immigration overhaul shielding 4 million from deportation [View all] ucrdem Nov 2014 OP

k/r Dawson Leery Nov 2014 #1

I like fighting mode confrontational Obama. Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #2

It's a good speech so far ucrdem Nov 2014 #4

WaPo: Almost half of all undocumented immigrants could gain protection ucrdem Nov 2014 #3

Every increase in the labor pool drives down wages. candelista Nov 2014 #5

Totally agree with you. 840high Nov 2014 #11

except these people are already in the labor pool. got any more dumb talking points? nt geek tragedy Nov 2014 #16

Indefatigable... Cha Nov 2014 #23

Yeah right? Darb Nov 2014 #25

Paying sub minimum wage money hurts poor workers. bravenak Nov 2014 #27

Some downthread call them the enemy who should be deported. Zero sum logic per Rush. freshwest Nov 2014 #30

It so much easier to find an ememy than a solution. bravenak Nov 2014 #31

they are already working KT2000 Nov 2014 #32

Slavery drove down the wages of freedmen, too. Why be for abolishing slavery then as a moral wrong, freshwest Nov 2014 #33

Is that why wages were so much lower in the 1960's than in the 1930's? There was an increase of 50% pampango Nov 2014 #34

There isn't an increase, they are already here and working. nt lunamagica Nov 2014 #6

Yeah as slaves humbled_opinion Nov 2014 #12

With all due respect, wouldn't that push pay scales up? DLnyc Nov 2014 #15

Yep and they will compete in this job market humbled_opinion Nov 2014 #37

1) that's not how things work; 2) you're advocating keeping them as slaves nt geek tragedy Nov 2014 #17

Yes it is and no I'm not... humbled_opinion Nov 2014 #38

"Low skilled migrant workers right now do not compete with American citizens in the job market ..." pampango Nov 2014 #43

I am not debating the political principles of the policy humbled_opinion Nov 2014 #44

You posted that 'low skilled immigrants' are already competing with 'poor and minority people'. pampango Nov 2014 #45

AFL-CIO: our broken immigration system has allowed employers to drive down wages and working pampango Nov 2014 #35

You know that would be great humbled_opinion Nov 2014 #39

This could hurt CullenBohannon Nov 2014 #7

I don't think so. They decrease wages for all when they work under the table at lower wages. freshwest Nov 2014 #8

That's ridiculous. candelista Nov 2014 #9

Try this out and tell me who's being ridiculous: freshwest Nov 2014 #13

He's right about the border. ucrdem Nov 2014 #14

You're welcome and thanks for the thread. I personally saw the game being played out by employers in freshwest Nov 2014 #22

The rational thing for site admins would be to deport xenophobic wingnuts from DU nt geek tragedy Nov 2014 #19

Who just love Putin but always have some problem with Pres Obama.. It's puzzling :) Cha Nov 2014 #24

And ratcheting up the personal attacks, with no links, because they'd be RW ones. freshwest Nov 2014 #42

Obama's action will NOT increase the size of the labor pool Martin Eden Nov 2014 #36

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That is a pollyana view of the job market humbled_opinion Nov 2014 #40

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This message was self-deleted by its author geek tragedy Nov 2014 #18

Gee, maybe they should all organize together in unions or something. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2014 #20

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Certainly that would help humbled_opinion Nov 2014 #41

A larger percentage of DUers sounded like you back when Bush tried to do immigration reform. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2014 #21

Wrong. Darb Nov 2014 #26