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49. Angling for that Fox News or Russian state media gig?

Wed Oct 29, 2014, 08:26 AM

Oct 2014

"Moscow", of course, is not "spreading" this version, they simply asked the question what the SU-25 caught on radar in the vicinity of the airliner was doing there.

This of course is the classic liar's technique known as the "loaded question."

The question includes an embedded, and here COMPLETELY UNSUPPORTED factual claim, i.e. the "SU-25 caught on radar in the vicinity of the airliner."

The only people who have made that claim are the fascist regime in Moscow and its apologist and volunteer propagandists.

So, yes, Moscow IS spreading the claim that there was an SU-25 plane in the vicinity. They are not 'asking' anything.

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MH17 Prosecutor Open to Theory Another Plane Shot Down Airliner: Der Spiegel [View all] Purveyor Oct 2014 OP

National security it's for everything /nt jakeXT Oct 2014 #1

Fat chance the PNACistas in the US government will cosmicone Oct 2014 #2

Your implication is disgusting. joshcryer Oct 2014 #4

Operation NORTHWOODS Octafish Oct 2014 #7

Well, if we're able to go back 50+ years ago... brooklynite Oct 2014 #9

My ''narrative'' is to tell the truth. Octafish Oct 2014 #13

There was nothing to be gained. joshcryer Oct 2014 #10

Who knows? It looks like an intentional act, to me. Octafish Oct 2014 #14

It Is Worth Pointing Out, Sir The Magistrate Oct 2014 #11

True, Sir. It was not done, thank JFK. But those at the top of the MIC thought it a good idea. Octafish Oct 2014 #15

Again, Sir: The Thought Is Not The Deed The Magistrate Oct 2014 #17

And the Soviet Union and Warsaw Pact had plans for first strike on the US and NATO also. GGJohn Oct 2014 #38

How soon they forget: KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #22

You and PNACistas implication is even more disgusting cosmicone Oct 2014 #32

Actually, Sir, That Is Not A Common Charge The Magistrate Oct 2014 #33

Delusional. joshcryer Oct 2014 #3

"...Westerbeke said the Dutch would ask Moscow to provide the information...." ColesCountyDem Oct 2014 #5

How do you connotate "would ask" with some ballyhoo Oct 2014 #18

Just highlighting this bit of disingenuous snark from the OP: ColesCountyDem Oct 2014 #19

Okay. Sorry, CCD. ballyhoo Oct 2014 #24

No blood, no foul, ballyhoo! ColesCountyDem Oct 2014 #25

The more I read about this thing, the more I think my ballyhoo Oct 2014 #27

I will also trust the Dutch inspectors' final determination. ColesCountyDem Oct 2014 #30

Excellent, CCD. I agree 100 per cent. You sure write well, ace. Well, ballyhoo Oct 2014 #31

Thank you, and enjoy! n/t ColesCountyDem Oct 2014 #34

The article simply says... Adrahil Oct 2014 #6

No, that's not what the article says reorg Oct 2014 #35

Angling for that Fox News or Russian state media gig? geek tragedy Oct 2014 #49

Pretty desperate spin. geek tragedy Oct 2014 #8

The Newsweek Article, Sir, Engages In Some Distortion The Magistrate Oct 2014 #12

In other words, Russia needs to put up or shut up regarding its theory of events. Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2014 #16

Yes indeed. nt elias49 Oct 2014 #20

This is beginning to look like the Rebels locked on one plane, but the missile hit another. happyslug Oct 2014 #21

A Couple Of Small Points, Sir The Magistrate Oct 2014 #26

More succinctly, are you suggesting that the rebel SAM ballyhoo Oct 2014 #28

No, Sir, That Is Not What He Suggests The Magistrate Oct 2014 #29

It is more likely they thought it was an Il-76. joshcryer Oct 2014 #42

Buk isn't like that. joshcryer Oct 2014 #43

And when it hits its blows the entire plane apart--not ballyhoo Oct 2014 #50

Not True, Sir --- Not That That Is New For You, Of Course The Magistrate Oct 2014 #51

and you are completely wrong on that account Duckhunter935 Oct 2014 #76

I have considered this as a possibility as well daleo Oct 2014 #86

But the aircraft was attacked from the front? Blue_Tires Oct 2014 #23

I don't think they will ever release the satellite photos reorg Oct 2014 #36

Well, it would have been nice to get an English playback ballyhoo Oct 2014 #37

Maybe The Magistrate can untangle this bit..?? nt elias49 Oct 2014 #39

Funny how every other missile expert disagrees with this character. geek tragedy Oct 2014 #40

You probably haven't read the report reorg Oct 2014 #44

You just contradicted yourself in your selection of nutjob theorists, Comrade. geek tragedy Oct 2014 #47

The US government should really put an end to this reorg Oct 2014 #57

There Is Nothing To Put An End To, Sir The Magistrate Oct 2014 #59

Really? Seems like releasing the evidence held in secret by the USA might Karmadillo Oct 2014 #63

Not Going To Argue With You, Sir The Magistrate Oct 2014 #66

Not that your opinion isn't valued, but it seems the suppressed hard evidence Karmadillo Oct 2014 #71

Well, the victims' lawyer and the prosecutor above seem to think otherwise reorg Oct 2014 #64

Already Dealt With, Sir.... The Magistrate Oct 2014 #68

You Just Cannot Stop Yourself From Linking To Anti-Semitic Hate Sites, Sir, Can You The Magistrate Oct 2014 #52

Why are you linking to a bigoted hate site? GGJohn Oct 2014 #53

He Not Only Does It Repeatedly, Sir, He Defends Them.... The Magistrate Oct 2014 #55

It is? URL showed up first when looking for the article in English reorg Oct 2014 #56

Face It, Sir: Bigots And Loons All The Way Down The Magistrate Oct 2014 #58

And It Is Always Humorous, Sir, When People Claim The Hate Site 'Just Popped At The Top' Of A Search The Magistrate Oct 2014 #60

As trustful and friendly as ever reorg Oct 2014 #61

Why Does It Never Take Me More Than Seconds To Find The Hate On These Sites, Sir? The Magistrate Oct 2014 #62

Because you are looking for it? reorg Oct 2014 #65

Do I Expect You To Link To Hate Sites, Sir? Yes The Magistrate Oct 2014 #67

RT is "racist and bigoted"? reorg Oct 2014 #69

I Remember Your Full-Throated Defense Of Anti-Semitic Bigotry, Sir The Magistrate Oct 2014 #70

RT is just RT reorg Oct 2014 #72

Indeed, Sir, Russia Today Is Quite Open About Being a Propaganda Outlet For The Russian Government The Magistrate Oct 2014 #73

Do you know what a "source" is? reorg Oct 2014 #74

Your Links, Sir, No One Else's The Magistrate Oct 2014 #75

Did you miss your true calling reorg Oct 2014 #78

The Topic At Hand, Sir, Is That The View Of This You Present Is a Favorite Of Racists And Loons The Magistrate Oct 2014 #79

the topic at hand is to be found in the OP reorg Oct 2014 #80

The Topic, Sir, Is That The View You Present Of This Is One Widely Shared By Racists And Loons The Magistrate Oct 2014 #81

There Are, Indeed, Sir, Some Very Odd Things About This 'Expert's' Claims The Magistrate Oct 2014 #54

There were dozens of ground eye-witnesses. joshcryer Oct 2014 #41

LOL reorg Oct 2014 #45

Ukraine witnesses saw Buk system near MH17 crash site, says report joshcryer Oct 2014 #46

Nobody saw the missile being launched? Very strange. reorg Oct 2014 #82

quoting a rebel to 'prove' your claim that the rebels could not have done it. geek tragedy Oct 2014 #48

Why are we still fighting the Cold War!?!? salib Oct 2014 #77

Because it is profitable ... Nihil Oct 2014 #83

Unfortunately true. Though, my question was more directed at DU salib Oct 2014 #84

Ah, misread your intent ... Nihil Oct 2014 #85

Democrats as well as Republicans ozone_man Oct 2014 #87

I'm more interested in what happened to MH370 Reter Oct 2014 #88