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nytemare

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56. Exactly...and regarding the scream for help...
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 11:52 PM
Apr 2012

This same expert said it was not Zimmerman calling for help. He compared Zimmerman's voice with the isolated screaming on the 911 calls, and said it was not Zimmerman. Here is a link to that story: http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/01/10963191-trayvon-martin-case-911-call-screams-not-george-zimmermans-2-experts-say


And on the timeline, at 7:15, the phone call with Martin's girlfriend went dead. This was just after she said she heard Zimmerman say "What are you doing here", and Martin say "What are you following me for?". The shot was a minute later at 7:16. So where in there did he have time to walk away? After he talked to Martin and asked him what he was doing there? At no time in Zimmerman's version did that interchange that the girlfriend discussed come in. He engaged Martin at 7:15, he initiated the contact, and the contact was continued until the gunshot, because you can hear Martin yelling for help the whole minute of 716 until the shot was fired. There was NO time in there for Zimmerman to disengage that contact and start to walk back to his car. He fucked up, and he had to come up with some way to imply that he felt he was in danger, so he made up a story.

We may never know for sure. earthside Apr 2012 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Mark D. Apr 2012 #44
disagree abelenkpe Apr 2012 #2
I was listening to the radio all day and it sounds like F'in punks... IamK Apr 2012 #32
I heard "punk" the first time I heard it. Igel Apr 2012 #40
It is what I heard, too. People are getting caught in the weeds ... Cosmocat Apr 2012 #41
What Did George Say - Who Cares? mista411 Apr 2012 #51
Welcome to DU! yardwork Apr 2012 #52
YEP Cosmocat Apr 2012 #55
Exactly! goclark Apr 2012 #59
So Joe Oliver has no credibility and is just a tool. "Goons = HS term of endearment." nt Jumping John Apr 2012 #3
This is an attempt to ward off the FBI zeemike Apr 2012 #4
No matter how they try and spin it Iliyah Apr 2012 #5
Don't attack CNN, attack the CEO of the Board of Recorded Evidence. alp227 Apr 2012 #47
Here's a tape loop I made of the excerpt in question brentspeak Apr 2012 #6
Well, now I hear "punks". Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #8
Link works now n/t brentspeak Apr 2012 #9
interesting naaman fletcher Apr 2012 #10
So can I. -..__... Apr 2012 #35
Yours still sounds like "coons" to my ears. kas125 Apr 2012 #11
I listened repeatedly to your excerpt through bose noise reduction headphones... Nope still sounds hlthe2b Apr 2012 #13
I hear an '..nks' at the tail end of the second word brentspeak Apr 2012 #21
Sorry, but with all due respect, proReality Apr 2012 #15
I'm hearing "coons" - I don't hear the hard K that "punks" has... Cooley Hurd Apr 2012 #24
I don't hear punk at all on yours. JoeyT Apr 2012 #30
Beware of tape loops. If you listen to an audio tape loop for a while, your brain will ZombieHorde Apr 2012 #38
It doesn't matter Cosmocat Apr 2012 #42
Listen for the vowel. It is an oooo sound, not uh. JDPriestly Apr 2012 #7
If he did say punks, how is that actually less racist... Kalidurga Apr 2012 #12
'punks' xxqqqzme Apr 2012 #17
you answered your own question Bacchus4.0 Apr 2012 #20
It is? Igel Apr 2012 #36
I keep hearing "Paul is dead" nt Blandocyte Apr 2012 #14
Number Nine, Number Nine, Number Nine ashling Apr 2012 #26
"turn me on, dead man" Common Sense Party Apr 2012 #27
Just found this clip ashling Apr 2012 #45
I still hear 'punks'.. X_Digger Apr 2012 #16
I can't listen now but I thought that is what he said originally. the media coverage frankly Bacchus4.0 Apr 2012 #18
I'm generally cynical of the media anyway.. X_Digger Apr 2012 #23
the expert is ridiculously wrong Enrique Apr 2012 #19
So be it. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #22
"cold" not "coons" Common Sense Party Apr 2012 #25
WOW! forst time Ive listened to this. I agree with Cenk pasto76 Apr 2012 #28
Sounds like "ooo" sound, I hear coons. Lil Missy Apr 2012 #29
Does it matter?? IMOTM2012 Apr 2012 #31
Just heard it Iliyah Apr 2012 #33
Headline rewrite: A Fornesic Expert With Close Ties To The Zimmermans... Dont call me Shirley Apr 2012 #34
BS, like ABC's "enhanced" video. I wonder what Owen's fee is as an expert witness. leveymg Apr 2012 #37
If I think "punks," then I hear "punks." If I think "coons," then I hear "coons." ZombieHorde Apr 2012 #39
So..he said "fucking punks"... nytemare Apr 2012 #43
Exactly jade3000 Apr 2012 #48
Exactly...and regarding the scream for help... nytemare Apr 2012 #56
+1 Incitatus Apr 2012 #50
I hear it both ways after multiple listens Gore1FL Apr 2012 #46
Whatever "These assholes always get away" is crystal clear and speaks volumes. nt Incitatus Apr 2012 #49
whether he said coons or goons or punks, what matters is magical thyme Apr 2012 #53
Bullshit. When he says 'coons' he lowers his tone even more. joshcryer Apr 2012 #54
Suspicious that he lowers his voice jade3000 Apr 2012 #57
I keep hearing "cranberry sauce" slackmaster Apr 2012 #58
He may have perceived Trayvon as gay marshall Apr 2012 #60
Considering this is the same guy who said distinctly that it was Trayvon screaming for help MrBig Apr 2012 #61
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