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In reply to the discussion: Walker gets support of Milwaukee police and firefighter unions [View all]freshwest
(53,661 posts)13. Yes, same demographic. Many of my union also voted for Reagan. The link for those who don't believe:
http://unionreview.com/labor-still-reeling-1981-patco-strike
This was after years of union gains, but then Carter came along and implemented consent decrees for companies who had discriminated in employment for years to level the playing field. The EEOC and OSHA and all labor conditions took a drastic move downward and enforcement of the laws protecting workers were made almost impossible and the level of disrespect for the same workers was intense.
They never seemed to grasp the psychological trick, instead, they identified with the bosses and denigrated minorities even more. It was the end of the movements from the fifties and later to make this country live up to its ideals. And a number of postal service employers fit the same demographic described at the link. Those some of my friends were married to, hated Democrats, and voted for Bush in 2000.
This is a fine example of cutting off one's nose to spite one's face. The face was all the people coming into the labor force that didn't meet their approval, and the fear of sharing power with them. It had been more or less their private good old boys' club in these situations, and they counted on that nasty socialism from military service and government work to take them into a good retirement. They didn't give a damn about generations to come, they'd got theirs. They had various reasons to justify themselves being 'entitled' while others were left out of the American dream.
In the case of these police unions coming out for a man who is against rights for other state employees no matter what carrot was thrown to them, it's just sad. There are groups of people who truly do not believe in equality or fair treatment. I can't for the life of me guess how this is going to end up. I'd read somewhere that this year was going to be the year when people made a decision that will determine the next hundred years or more on this planet. Be for the rich and yourself only, hate the poor and the dispossessed, or unite as a whole.
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This was after years of union gains, but then Carter came along and implemented consent decrees for companies who had discriminated in employment for years to level the playing field. The EEOC and OSHA and all labor conditions took a drastic move downward and enforcement of the laws protecting workers were made almost impossible and the level of disrespect for the same workers was intense.
They never seemed to grasp the psychological trick, instead, they identified with the bosses and denigrated minorities even more. It was the end of the movements from the fifties and later to make this country live up to its ideals. And a number of postal service employers fit the same demographic described at the link. Those some of my friends were married to, hated Democrats, and voted for Bush in 2000.
This is a fine example of cutting off one's nose to spite one's face. The face was all the people coming into the labor force that didn't meet their approval, and the fear of sharing power with them. It had been more or less their private good old boys' club in these situations, and they counted on that nasty socialism from military service and government work to take them into a good retirement. They didn't give a damn about generations to come, they'd got theirs. They had various reasons to justify themselves being 'entitled' while others were left out of the American dream.
In the case of these police unions coming out for a man who is against rights for other state employees no matter what carrot was thrown to them, it's just sad. There are groups of people who truly do not believe in equality or fair treatment. I can't for the life of me guess how this is going to end up. I'd read somewhere that this year was going to be the year when people made a decision that will determine the next hundred years or more on this planet. Be for the rich and yourself only, hate the poor and the dispossessed, or unite as a whole.
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Yes, same demographic. Many of my union also voted for Reagan. The link for those who don't believe:
freshwest
Apr 2012
#13
Not IAFF - this is like Bush touting firefighter support when IAFF was solid behind Kerry
blm
Apr 2012
#10
The I'm protected so I'm not rocking the boat will backfire on them. Wonder IF their unions got
Justice wanted
Apr 2012
#12
That's a couple of selfish brotherhoods. "We got ours so fuck the rest of you brothers." nt
ladjf
Apr 2012
#26
The Madison firefighters were and still are. As were firefighters around the state.
Saving Hawaii
Apr 2012
#45