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Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
51. That's nonsense.
Wed Jul 23, 2014, 04:38 PM
Jul 2014

An airliner at 30,000 + ft is not a tactical threat. It "provoked" nothing. It could not be mistaken for a tactical jet on an attack profile. And the rebels clearly thought they had shot down a cargo plane.... again, NOT a tactical threat.

That's just an impossibly preposterous position.

That was already known to be a fact. dipsydoodle Jul 2014 #1
Did you read the third paragraph? Bosonic Jul 2014 #2
I'd missed that. dipsydoodle Jul 2014 #4
Yup. Your narrative is crumbling. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #29
There was however something else that did become clear dipsydoodle Jul 2014 #30
There's nothing left to "figure". We know exactly what happened, and Russia's the root cause. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #33
dipsy, time to admit that innocent fighters against facism killed a planeload of civilians... Adrahil Jul 2014 #31
No...the article seems to say that Ukraine provoked the attack...not Russia... KoKo Jul 2014 #50
That's nonsense. Adrahil Jul 2014 #51
No...it said that Ukrainian aircraft attacked the area just before KoKo Jul 2014 #52
That may be the background reason dipsydoodle Jul 2014 #53
So dippy... It's Ukraine's fault? That's your position? Adrahil Jul 2014 #55
It's the fault of the person who pressed the damn button..... lexx21 Jul 2014 #92
And yet, they targeted and killed an airliner.... Adrahil Jul 2014 #54
Read Post 45 for context...you have yet to do that...... KoKo Jul 2014 #58
Yes, I read the post. It's freakin' nonsense. I'll reply to it for ya. Adrahil Jul 2014 #94
Just that? Codeine Jul 2014 #39
Sounds like you have new facts to learn. Read the story. geek tragedy Jul 2014 #3
Sounds confused that man ? jakeXT Jul 2014 #6
No, he has remarkable clarity. geek tragedy Jul 2014 #14
And they knew Kiev used passenger planes as human shields jakeXT Jul 2014 #18
You know not everything on the Internet is true, right? geek tragedy Jul 2014 #21
But the State Department told me so.. /nt jakeXT Jul 2014 #24
It has been proven that Kiev ATC sent the Malaysian plane cosmicone Jul 2014 #26
That's the stupidest shit I've read today. tabasco Jul 2014 #105
"Owned" is a broad term.... happyslug Jul 2014 #22
he's saying the rebels were in possession of the missiles geek tragedy Jul 2014 #23
You seem to misunderstand what Reuters reported reorg Jul 2014 #67
Man, just like the Russian information ministry, your ability geek tragedy Jul 2014 #70
"I heard about it" - "I think" - "They probably" - "I was told" reorg Jul 2014 #74
so, now that he's towing the Moscow line, he's no longer a double agent? geek tragedy Jul 2014 #75
Looks like Western propaganda is quite effective outside of China and India reorg Jul 2014 #77
No, it's that the rest of the planet doesn't get brainwashed by Russia's propaganda geek tragedy Jul 2014 #80
They also have something prepared for Germany jakeXT Jul 2014 #91
But but but Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #5
That poster has been conspicuously absent Codeine Jul 2014 #34
maybe that young man went west nt geek tragedy Jul 2014 #36
Good one davidpdx Jul 2014 #71
coincidentally, the low post ones appear geek tragedy Jul 2014 #72
hmm...good observation davidpdx Jul 2014 #73
Squirrel! Iliyah Jul 2014 #7
they can call this guy as a witness, he seems to have something geek tragedy Jul 2014 #8
Further down in the article, Reuters reports that Khodakovsky is one of the amandabeech Jul 2014 #9
this is a giant chasm between the factions. geek tragedy Jul 2014 #10
He sounds tired of the whole thing. amandabeech Jul 2014 #12
it has gone on too long. he knows it nt geek tragedy Jul 2014 #15
Maybe, just maybe, this man has a heart. Iliyah Jul 2014 #19
How many other "separatists" might feel the same way after the shoot-down. amandabeech Jul 2014 #28
We have no other option, jakeXT Jul 2014 #16
He is probably a plant by the Ukrainian puppet government n/t cosmicone Jul 2014 #27
Didn't he switch sides ozone_man Jul 2014 #32
Nope. still shooting at government troops. He's just telling the truth, unlike geek tragedy Jul 2014 #35
Oh good lord. Codeine Jul 2014 #37
it's all they got. nt geek tragedy Jul 2014 #38
Which begs the question.. wth do they have Cha Jul 2014 #61
Oh good god, IronGate Jul 2014 #69
"I am required to promote the side I represent, even if I might think otherwise geek tragedy Jul 2014 #11
He also likes to make everything clear in his intercepted phone calls jakeXT Jul 2014 #13
sounds like he is the source for uncovering a lot of evil deeds reorg Jul 2014 #20
That's it! Even though he's been waging war against Ukraine's government geek tragedy Jul 2014 #57
Khodakovskiy says that he never stated to his interviewer anything of the kind reorg Jul 2014 #59
Life News. geek tragedy Jul 2014 #64
Do you speak Russian? reorg Jul 2014 #65
Say, why did Team Putin not release geek tragedy Jul 2014 #66
I don't know about Putin, but I did. reorg Jul 2014 #68
men wearing Ukraine Military Uniform fired the missile Billy Budd Jul 2014 #76
Robert Parry, a known Kremlin sycophant, is the only source on the planet for the uniform claim. geek tragedy Jul 2014 #78
Robert Parry is a noted journalist Billy Budd Jul 2014 #79
"in the 1980's" --yes, part of being a "has-been" is having once displayed merit and achievement. geek tragedy Jul 2014 #81
However Billy Budd Jul 2014 #82
have you ever been west, young man? nt geek tragedy Jul 2014 #83
yes I saw this on the LA Times Billy Budd Jul 2014 #84
"it was possible the SA-11 was launched by a defector from the Ukrainian military who was trained geek tragedy Jul 2014 #85
what about number 4 Billy Budd Jul 2014 #87
No intelligent, sane human being believes this was a US-sponsored black op. nt geek tragedy Jul 2014 #88
Post removed Post removed Jul 2014 #89
Because people who promote that crazy talk cite white supremacists like Paul Craig Roberts to geek tragedy Jul 2014 #90
Post removed Post removed Jul 2014 #86
The guy is obviously a plant and not a real rebel representative cosmicone Jul 2014 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author geek tragedy Jul 2014 #41
. geek tragedy Jul 2014 #42
Excellent comparison. GliderGuider Jul 2014 #45
More like cosmicone Jul 2014 #48
The straws, you must grasp at them!! Codeine Jul 2014 #44
It is not a straw but a huge sturdy column with handles to hold n/t cosmicone Jul 2014 #46
Mmm-hmm. nt Codeine Jul 2014 #49
He was reported as a rebel commander by the NYT 6 weeks ago. Adrahil Jul 2014 #56
Oppsie! blackspade Jul 2014 #17
Kick & recommended. William769 Jul 2014 #25
Sounds like he's close to unburdening his soul. GliderGuider Jul 2014 #43
My read is that he's saying Ukraine provoked the missle attack KoKo Jul 2014 #47
He now says he never made the alleged statement reorg Jul 2014 #60
Well...it came from the Reuter's Report of the OP..... KoKo Jul 2014 #62
Yes, I know reorg Jul 2014 #63
This is SUCH BS Adrahil Jul 2014 #95
perhaps it is, perhaps not, using airliners as human shields reorg Jul 2014 #97
Reuters releases the audio: joshcryer Jul 2014 #93
But you link to "Radio Free Europe"? reorg Jul 2014 #96
"I knew that a Buk came from Luhansk" joshcryer Jul 2014 #98
"I do NOT know about this Buk ... reorg Jul 2014 #99
So, confirmation. joshcryer Jul 2014 #100
I know you are not really that slow reorg Jul 2014 #101
If the rebels didn't have Buks, Ukraine geek tragedy Jul 2014 #102
just read what Khodakovsky said, please? reorg Jul 2014 #103
Seems like an attempt to transition geek tragedy Jul 2014 #104
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