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8. I don't think I fully understood it until I experienced my aged father's last years

Tue Apr 15, 2014, 11:57 AM

Apr 2014

with Alzheimer's disease. I now have a plan for suicide which I hope to implement if I ever have reason to think I may be developing dementia. Of course I will have to do immediately and not wait, because then it would be too late.

This has made me think that there are common situations that would make suicide a rational decision and one made in love for one's family.

I have no idea why Michael Ruppert did this, but I don't assume he didn't have a good reason.

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Michael Ruppert Kills Self [View all] Tace Apr 2014 OP

I will never understand suicide AgingAmerican Apr 2014 #1

I don't think I fully understood it until I experienced my aged father's last years enough Apr 2014 #8

You and every nurse who has cared for someone with Alzheimer's Warpy Apr 2014 #15

I walked into this thread and sub thread thru your point of view also. Nt seabeyond Apr 2014 #28

I recently had to put my 18+ male cat down.... AnneD Apr 2014 #42

I had to do much the same with my kitty of 12 years. We were extremely close and in love with RKP5637 Apr 2014 #109

I agree so much get the red out Apr 2014 #131

same thing with my sweet angel 12 y.o. cat wordpix Apr 2014 #156

IMO we should be in control of our eventual death. I had two sisters that died simply horrific RKP5637 Apr 2014 #105

What they've found in places with assisted suicide laws Warpy Apr 2014 #106

IMO it's a power trip. They set themselves up on pedestals to judge others and then feel RKP5637 Apr 2014 #108

They talk about Dr assisted suicide for terminal cases arikara Apr 2014 #111

please share your methods. Mom had Alz 6 yrs. and I have cancer wordpix Apr 2014 #155

Probably better to use PM. Also, there are some popular books out there like Final Exit... Hekate Apr 2014 #166

I have a plan also. My wife ballyhoo Apr 2014 #127

Really? I can't understand trying to live forever and being miserable. The_Commonist Apr 2014 #24

I totally get it. Don't agree with. Nor inclined to it. But, I understand. Nt seabeyond Apr 2014 #27

Same here. CFLDem Apr 2014 #30

Sure you will understand suicide. The Stranger Apr 2014 #40

Well said. n/t Tom_Foolery Apr 2014 #75

be thankful you don't understand it Skittles Apr 2014 #54

^^^this magical thyme Apr 2014 #124

Collapse SecularMotion Apr 2014 #2

This is excellent thank you. nt snappyturtle Apr 2014 #157

One of the authors on my way to enlightenment Horse with no Name Apr 2014 #3

He was broke some years ago. truedelphi Apr 2014 #35

Me too. Horse with no Name Apr 2014 #37

Ruppert was always a little unhinged hack89 Apr 2014 #4

Actually, to be honest Horse with no Name Apr 2014 #5

Indeed, if the concept of peak oil doesn't unhinge one a little, then one isn't thinking very much arcane1 Apr 2014 #18

Did you read Crossing the Rubicon? TomClash Apr 2014 #6

Yes - it was pure truther BS hack89 Apr 2014 #7

Must be comforting to have a handle on the unimpeachable truth, as you have. WinkyDink Apr 2014 #9

He was peddling "facts" that are easy to prove were wrong. hack89 Apr 2014 #10

This kinda logic dead_head Apr 2014 #11

Logical fallacy AlbertCat Apr 2014 #13

I guess I did not express myself correctly dead_head Apr 2014 #52

Actually hack did exactly that arikara Apr 2014 #113

Actually hack did exactly that thing you say he didn't. AlbertCat Apr 2014 #132

Welcome to DU arikara Apr 2014 #114

Maybe he approached it from the wrong angle, but the number and type of exercises going on that day brett_jv Apr 2014 #22

The planes dedicated to armed intercept were not involved in any exercises hack89 Apr 2014 #25

Really? Another 911 thread? billhicks76 Apr 2014 #53

There is always time for a Truther thread hack89 Apr 2014 #91

Uh No billhicks76 Apr 2014 #99

Bless your heart hack89 Apr 2014 #101

what purpose would it serve? Delay the military and air traffic controllers from doing the job yurbud Apr 2014 #58

Why would civilian ATC be involved in military exercises? hack89 Apr 2014 #90

Ah, I found the transcript I was looking for, with civilian controller talking to military yurbud Apr 2014 #112

So a single question somehow equals mass confusion? hack89 Apr 2014 #118

good point. yurbud Apr 2014 #125

since you have all the military experience, what happened to the NORAD response that day? yurbud Apr 2014 #129

It was never standard NORAD procedure to do intercepts within US borders hack89 Apr 2014 #138

gravedancing? perhaps you should back off and shut up since you look ridiculous xiamiam Apr 2014 #23

There are a surprising number of Truthers here hack89 Apr 2014 #26

Not surprising to me....I was pretty sure when I saw this that I would VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #31

Again with this garbage ? billhicks76 Apr 2014 #45

What did I say about him other than I thought he would find "fans" here? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #47

It Is About Him billhicks76 Apr 2014 #49

I didn't say I was opposed to suicide or anything about suicide did I? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #51

and that is why the ignore feature is so necessary xiamiam Apr 2014 #38

A True Believer hack89 Apr 2014 #39

Defend the merits of laissez-faire economics? HughBeaumont Apr 2014 #43

Are you a Truther? Nt hack89 Apr 2014 #93

Have Some Respect billhicks76 Apr 2014 #44

You do understand that "grift" requires money right? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #48

Wow that was quick billhicks76 Apr 2014 #62

YES....just as I expected "fans" on DU... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #67

Cute. arikara Apr 2014 #116

Perhaps the life misbegotten is your own! VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #119

This message was self-deleted by its author Raksha Apr 2014 #162

You are a sick human being billhicks76 Apr 2014 #46

"indignified" VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #50

question for you. dead_head Apr 2014 #63

did I say I hated him or wanted him dead? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #65

no dead_head Apr 2014 #73

you don't "disagree 100% with him"? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #76

No dead_head Apr 2014 #87

By the way dead_head Apr 2014 #95

You have 36 whole posts here...most if not all from this thread.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #96

36 posts....oooooohh billhicks76 Apr 2014 #102

and that means jack actually..... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #120

so what? dead_head Apr 2014 #107

Ignore them. arikara Apr 2014 #117

PLEASE DO!!!!! VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #122

37 posts for a Conspiracy Theorist.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #121

Ha...what a joke billhicks76 Apr 2014 #143

And That Person Is just A Self-Hating Conspiracy Theorist billhicks76 Apr 2014 #144

We Prefer Rhapsody In Red billhicks76 Apr 2014 #145

Tell me this is a conspiracy theory 777man Apr 2014 #149

They Conveniently Ignore This billhicks76 Apr 2014 #154

You Are Spot On My Friend billhicks76 Apr 2014 #142

Fallacious arguments ABOUT Conspiracy Theories.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #146

Why is it always either their way or Alex Jonses way? billhicks76 Apr 2014 #70

Totally agree dead_head Apr 2014 #74

That Way Is Suspect billhicks76 Apr 2014 #78

The I is next to the U billhicks76 Apr 2014 #64

No I don't fall for Truthers or Birthers... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #66

Alex Jones billhicks76 Apr 2014 #72

Oh NOW who couldn't have seen THAT coming.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #77

I Know Right? billhicks76 Apr 2014 #81

No actually it is not.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #83

Yes You Are billhicks76 Apr 2014 #100

No that is not my theory..... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #151

That poster is particularly odious. SolutionisSolidarity Apr 2014 #60

odious.... wildbilln864 Apr 2014 #85

Yes one poster with 300 posts conversing with another 300 post poster about how they KNOW VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #152

Why is conspiracy theories in quotation marks? SolutionisSolidarity Apr 2014 #164

Don't fall for grifters and you won't get your feelings hurt. hack89 Apr 2014 #92

I'd Pay A Grifter Before I'd listen To You billhicks76 Apr 2014 #103

Grifters depend on people like you hack89 Apr 2014 #104

could you post links to prove some particular points he made were wrong? yurbud Apr 2014 #59

I will try to dig up the threads from the old DU hack89 Apr 2014 #94

thank you. yurbud Apr 2014 #97

A number of very talented artistic people have killed themselves... MicaelS Apr 2014 #33

so...there were no exercises going on that day? yurbud Apr 2014 #56

There are several military exercises, big and small, every day hack89 Apr 2014 #86

He backed up Gary Webb on Contra drug smuggling and confronted CIA director in public yurbud Apr 2014 #55

No, his stuff on 911 was not solid hack89 Apr 2014 #88

YES HE did, and Kill The Messnger Movie Will refocus attention on it 777man Apr 2014 #148

tar sands and fracking prove that we've passed the peak of easily recoverable oil yurbud Apr 2014 #158

Randi Rhodes called out the Saudi's in that LONG ago! VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #153

do you have a link? That sounds good. yurbud Apr 2014 #165

the Bush administration and their allies never went after critics like Dan Rather yurbud Apr 2014 #57

Dan Rather blew up his own career hack89 Apr 2014 #89

so that happens to reporters all the time when they get some detail in a story wrong? yurbud Apr 2014 #126

When you go after the President of the United States with forged documents hack89 Apr 2014 #136

Are there any specific instance where you believe the Bush administration lied or fabricated yurbud Apr 2014 #128

The intel to go to war was cherry picked and fabricated. Nt hack89 Apr 2014 #137

could there be any aspect of the 9/11 story that could possibly misrepresented? yurbud Apr 2014 #140

Ruppert Uncovered CIA Drug-Running Tace Apr 2014 #12

a good friend knows him and was under the impression he was bipolar zazen Apr 2014 #14

This is the best explanation of his behavior ... nt MindMover Apr 2014 #16

I Was Under That Impression, Too Tace Apr 2014 #29

apparent self inflicted grasswire Apr 2014 #17

! DeSwiss Apr 2014 #19

well you know the conspiracy theory crowd would turn it into a conspiracy... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #32

The definition of Conspiracy would be your friend... 2banon Apr 2014 #41

yep. We should believe exactly what the government tells us, especially the Bush admin yurbud Apr 2014 #61

So you DO believe Ruperts death is a conspiracy??? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #69

how did you get that out of what I said? I was referring to the derogatory tone about Ruppert's work yurbud Apr 2014 #71

Uh you mean his "conspiracy theory work" VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #84

Probably legalese. MicaelS Apr 2014 #34

RIP warrior. DeSwiss Apr 2014 #20

Very Sad.... KoKo Apr 2014 #21

Early on he informed my views on peak oil. Whatever else has been said, may he RIP. nt silvershadow Apr 2014 #36

Yes, I believe that he contributed to the old site "The Old Drum" very frequently. amandabeech Apr 2014 #79

Same here. I hope he has found peace. nt Mojorabbit Apr 2014 #110

No! Delphinus Apr 2014 #68

RIP n/t bitchkitty Apr 2014 #80

Gary Webb...cough cough. Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #82

Agreed. Raksha Apr 2014 #135

there is suicide, and there is 'being suicided'. olddad56 Apr 2014 #159

Sad. deathrind Apr 2014 #98

VIDEO: Mike Ruppert speaks truth to power: confronts CIA director on drug running yurbud Apr 2014 #115

KILL THE MESSENGER MOVIE OCT 10, 2014 -- SPREAD THE WORD-- AND RIP MIKE RUPPERT 777man Apr 2014 #150

What a shame!!! Beacool Apr 2014 #123

For me he epitomized the Truth Warrior GliderGuider Apr 2014 #130

Suicide seems out of character for Mike Ruppert. Raksha Apr 2014 #133

I've heard speculations about both depression and bipolar disorder. GliderGuider Apr 2014 #134

Look at his behavior when he fled to Venezuela hack89 Apr 2014 #160

That's very possible. Raksha Apr 2014 #161

My family has been touched by suicide hack89 Apr 2014 #163

Abby Martin's comments on Ruppert's death... PoliticAverse Apr 2014 #139

This REALLY bums me out. I've reading Crossing the Rubicon four times. laserhaas Apr 2014 #141

laserhass: I'm Bummed, Too Tace Apr 2014 #147