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Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
15. I don't mean this in a good way, but . . .
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 04:16 PM
Feb 2014

. . . Karl Rove is a real professional. Of course, his profession makes him an occupational liar. For lurking Freepers who think I'm just being partisan, so is James Carville. In addition to political campaign consultants, who are just a special class of public relations agents, prime examples of occupational liars are salesmen, lawyers and politicians (who, perhaps not coincidentally, usually start out as lawyers).

The point is that the Rover is an exceptionally good occupational liar, or EGOL. After all, he made Bush the Frat Boy into an attractive enough candidate to get him within stealing distance of two national elections. That was no easy task.

The first part of being an EGOL is to know what sells and what's an what doesn't. The Monica Lewinsky caper was never a good selling point in the first place. How many of us knew that President Clinton (another EGOL) was just asking for trouble when he said "I didn't have sex with that woman" instead of "On the advise of an attorney, I have nothing to say about that topic"? The problem with the matter of Mr. Clinton and she and his fellow consenting adult, Ms. Lewinsky, did together, was that nobody cared except ESAPPs (exceptionally stupid and partisan politicians). Fifteen years later, the only people who still care are ESAPPs like Senator Paul.

Another reason the Lewinsky caper doesn't sell is that there are better examples of politicians who don't level with the American people than Bill Clinton or even Chris Christie. For example, Richard ("I am not a crook&quot Nixon, George W. (Saddam has Weapons of Mass Destruction) Bush and his sidekick, former Vice Premier Cheney were much bigger liars than Clinton, and lied about matters of greater consequence than a tacky blow job.

What are the Republicans to do in 2016? One might think that they could point to President Obama. but they can't do that. It's not that President Obama hasn't lied to us. This is the same president who tells us that mass surveillance of American citizens saves lives and isn't a violation of the Fourth Amendment and that the TPP and TTIP will create jobs. Unfortunately, any Republican president will say the same thing and it won't be any more truthful than saying he threw a silver dollar across the Potomac River. All they can do is holler "Benghazi," but that is even less attractive as a selling point that what down in the Oval Office closet in the nineties. Well, no one ever accused Darrell Issa of being an EGOL. It's a rare man who can be both an EGOL and an ESAPP at the same time.

So who is KKKarl backing instead? KamaAina Feb 2014 #1
Jeb maybe? nt grasswire Feb 2014 #2
Jeb for sure !!! warrant46 Feb 2014 #20
And only Jeb. He's part of the Bush Cabal. David Zephyr Feb 2014 #21
i agree Enrique Feb 2014 #23
+1 warrant46 Feb 2014 #24
I'm not so sure Jeb is scandal free, there have been stories about him and Karl Thinkingabout Feb 2014 #27
That's certainly a legitimate opinion also warrant46 Feb 2014 #29
If he's backing anyone it's Jeb. He's well entrenched into the Bush Cleita Feb 2014 #7
Rove will undermine any GOP candidate that gains traction...on behalf of Jeb. David Zephyr Feb 2014 #22
Like others said, Jeb. Beacool Feb 2014 #31
I would bet Jeb.... n/t hlthe2b Feb 2014 #3
So.....what else do they have? LongTomH Feb 2014 #4
I sense that Rove does not think that Rand Paul would be a viable candidate Gothmog Feb 2014 #5
Just as an aside. Cleita Feb 2014 #6
That's because the Clinton Era is remembered as a better time. Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2014 #13
Political premature ejaculation! bullwinkle428 Feb 2014 #8
why do people want to take Rove's public remarks at face value? reddread Feb 2014 #9
The words Rove, face, and value do not belong together in a sentence. nt Xipe Totec Feb 2014 #10
"election oracle Karl Rove" Dopers_Greed Feb 2014 #11
I suppose he should go anti-gay like Karl did in Dubya's reelection. Right KKKarl? Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2014 #12
Democrats made history by being the only party to ever gain house seats in the sixth year. Dawson Leery Feb 2014 #14
I don't mean this in a good way, but . . . Jack Rabbit Feb 2014 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author anasv Feb 2014 #16
Be forewarned. Karl Rove is advising Rand Paul to save the Lewinsky scandal talk JDPriestly Feb 2014 #17
she will be portrayed as the cuckold, the woman so unsexy she drove Bill to THAT. reddread Feb 2014 #18
Thank you for your concern. aquart Feb 2014 #26
So what makes Rove think NastyRiffraff Feb 2014 #19
Ignore thr pudgy man behind the curtain, Rand Tom Ripley Feb 2014 #25
KKKarl knows that a lot of people did well Ilsa Feb 2014 #28
Rand Paul is stupid... SummerSnow Feb 2014 #30
Rove was trying to school the political neophyte. Beacool Feb 2014 #32
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