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Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
32. This is so lame and spiteful
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 12:25 PM
Dec 2013

First, you have just stated a motive for the hospital to wish to make sure the kid stops breathing. And if that motive exists, then the family might not be unreasonable in wondering how committed the hospital really is to their daughter's welfare! This is even more true because the girl's grandmother is a pediatric nurse.

Second, the longer this goes on the more the hospital's diagnosis comes into question. If it IS TRUE, as you assume, that this child has suffered brainstem death, then you should know full well that she will not be kept alive. Life support simply doesn't work if the brainstem is dead. The heart will eventually stop on its own regardless of any life support measures taken, and usually this occurs within days!

However, the longer this goes on the less likely it is that the child's brainstem is dead, and I agree this might come into play in a malpractice case, if there ever is any. I'm sure the hospital will want to settle. But no way will the child still be living in any way when a suit could be heard if the brainstem is dead. No way.

So the only case in which your claim about the family's motivations COULD BE TRUE is if the hospital is WRONG, which to me means that your claim about motives refutes itself.

And the nicest way I can describe such an assertion is lame and spiteful. I would like to use other, more accurate words, but I don't want my reply to your spite to be tombstoned, because your post is such a slur upon the family that I want the rebuttal to remain.

What gives you the right to assume that their motive here is not love and concern for the child? WHAT?

Would you make such an assertion if it were the child of the Kennedy family? I don't think so. What is going on in your mind? Think about it!

This is getting gruesome. Squinch Dec 2013 #1
Yes - LiberalElite Dec 2013 #5
Yes. I think it's because we are not allowed near it. Squinch Dec 2013 #7
Had a similar situation in my family. Archae Dec 2013 #17
Hmm, so "the Jesus" isn't the last hope? nt valerief Dec 2013 #2
what is this all about? keeping her "alive" for whose sake? let her go peacefully! secondwind Dec 2013 #3
She is already dead and it is a corpse cosmicone Dec 2013 #12
How do you know this? LovingA2andMI Dec 2013 #19
Her race is not even an issue. cosmicone Dec 2013 #22
+1 nt Javaman Dec 2013 #30
This is so lame and spiteful Yo_Mama Dec 2013 #32
All direct and independent evidence cosmicone Dec 2013 #39
No, you can't keep a person with a dead brain stem's heart beating Yo_Mama Dec 2013 #42
Unfortunately, some of us went to medical school cosmicone Dec 2013 #43
Kinda cynical. More like guilt and denial tblue Dec 2013 #25
I really feel for this family and there is nothing worse Arkansas Granny Dec 2013 #4
They're having a very hard time letting her go. QuestForSense Dec 2013 #15
so the 2nd facility backed out in part because it's doctors also refuse to "treat" magical thyme Dec 2013 #6
Children's referring to a "deceased body" isn't helping. Gormy Cuss Dec 2013 #31
agreed. they should stick to the language of "irreversibly brain dead" magical thyme Dec 2013 #36
It seems intentional because the terminology was used repeatedly in the statement. Gormy Cuss Dec 2013 #38
apparently not. the same judge that agreed she is irreversibly brain dead granted another extension magical thyme Dec 2013 #45
There is a no "last hope" Feral Child Dec 2013 #8
I also am getting the idea that this family refuses to accept their child's death Fortinbras Armstrong Dec 2013 #9
Terry Schiavo was not brain-dead cosmicone Dec 2013 #13
I stand corrected Fortinbras Armstrong Dec 2013 #29
They want to transfer her PasadenaTrudy Dec 2013 #10
The logistics of this seem problematic to me. Mz Pip Dec 2013 #11
She's dead - LiberalElite Dec 2013 #14
It's not like they have her on ice. Mz Pip Dec 2013 #16
True - LiberalElite Dec 2013 #18
Well, if the brainstem is dead the body will die regardless. Yo_Mama Dec 2013 #35
I'm done with this tale of the macabre. SCVDem Dec 2013 #20
I wish they would stop calling it a routine tonsil sugery MiniMe Dec 2013 #21
That's because information is coming from only one side Retrograde Dec 2013 #23
the problem i see is that the mother says when she started bleeding they did not get anyone JI7 Dec 2013 #26
"The mother says" Retrograde Dec 2013 #41
Agree MiniMe Dec 2013 #28
Any medical procedure carries risk. My sister coded during a colonoscopy riderinthestorm Dec 2013 #24
There is no hope. Iggo Dec 2013 #27
For everyone who is so scornful of these parents, can you at least TRY Sheldon Cooper Dec 2013 #33
Yes, it would be terrible!!! n/t Drew2510 Dec 2013 #34
Yes, the lack of empathy is astounding! n/t Yo_Mama Dec 2013 #37
Thank you. Having worked with people in these situations, there is nothing wrong with taking uppityperson Dec 2013 #44
Who is going to pay for this ? warrant46 Dec 2013 #40
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