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Ace Acme

(1,464 posts)
258. 40 PhD engineers in AE911Truth are calling for new investigations.
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:03 PM
Dec 2013

How many PhD engineers are willing to stick their necks out and defend NIST's half-an-investigation?

"Smirk." - xCommander AWOL Bush (R) & Dickie 'Five Military Deferments' Cheney (R) Berlum Dec 2013 #1
Imagine your buddies has unlimited loot... Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #94
As long as we're talking about rich Muslims Ace Acme Dec 2013 #103
"The Muslim world" TroglodyteScholar Dec 2013 #105
I wasn't talking about the Muslim World. Ace Acme Dec 2013 #106
I must have misread your post... TroglodyteScholar Dec 2013 #109
I guess that just proves that, as I said, I don't get it. :>) Ace Acme Dec 2013 #114
An Arab Prince wrote the City of NY a check for $10MM Old and In the Way Dec 2013 #153
He's the one who was building the ground zero mosque, and he's been the #2 shareholder of NewsCorp. Zen Democrat Dec 2013 #177
Its all about the Benjamins and the Carlisle Connection warrant46 Dec 2013 #233
Hmmmmm. Seems like there's more there than one might imagine... Indi Guy Dec 2013 #245
Birds of a feather---- flock---- warrant46 Dec 2013 #247
Indeed. Here's an interesting article... Indi Guy Dec 2013 #249
These guys are obviously petrosexuals n/t eridani Dec 2013 #127
Still funny ^^^^This^^^^ Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #237
What is on the recacted pages riverbendviewgal Dec 2013 #2
PNAC PNAC PNAC PNAC That is the document that spelled it out. And the bush crime family loudsue Dec 2013 #17
don't forget the Bin Ladens also! n/t wildbilln864 Dec 2013 #45
Zzactly. Bin Ladens are the biggest construction co. for the Saudi royal family. loudsue Dec 2013 #55
The bin Laden's that were partners with HW Bush in a militiary supply company - Carlyle? lark Dec 2013 #138
Bin Ladens were in town on 9/11 for a board meeting with Bush, Sr. and the Carlyle Group. Old and In the Way Dec 2013 #154
PNAC's Open LETTER TO CLINTON - Run-up to War Officially Began in 1998 _ a brief synopsis... Indi Guy Dec 2013 #175
The only media personality I recall discussing the Saudi Royals involvement VanillaRhapsody Dec 2013 #3
Larry King mainstreetonce Dec 2013 #18
No no no...that is NOT what I am talking about... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2013 #21
Yes it was Senator Graham... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2013 #23
Inquiring minds can't help but wonder who all are being protected in those redacted pages, indepat Dec 2013 #57
That's none of your business! Government business is government business, and none of yours! nt Ace Acme Dec 2013 #84
The bidness of America is bidness and the bidness of government is to nurture and indepat Dec 2013 #98
Republicon OCCULTISM works to keep America in the dark about 9/11 Berlum Dec 2013 #112
As soon as the FIRST plane hit, huh? How very interesting. Raksha Dec 2013 #311
New to me, too. Ace Acme Dec 2013 #315
You might be able to check mainstreetonce Dec 2013 #340
Bush was protecting his relationship with the Saudi princes? Baitball Blogger Dec 2013 #4
No, just one big coincidence. Old and In the Way Dec 2013 #58
Actually, the airspace had just reopened KamaAina Dec 2013 #76
Actually, I think you are wrong Old and In the Way Dec 2013 #248
If I'm wrong, the 9/11 Commission was, too KamaAina Dec 2013 #251
Well, fu k them. Old and In the Way Dec 2013 #252
Please see... Indi Guy Dec 2013 #253
...So many 'coincidences' surrounding the entire matter. Indi Guy Dec 2013 #223
And don't forget that 1 plane was supposed to hit the white house LiberalArkie Dec 2013 #377
Pretty sure it would have been the Capitol. Old and In the Way Dec 2013 #378
+1 Blue_Tires Dec 2013 #134
Powell's inability to convince the UN should have clued Americans in. Ace Acme Dec 2013 #155
During those days there was an atmosphere of fear among politicians & journalists,... Indi Guy Dec 2013 #217
I think the framework can be found in the PNAC documents, and the implementation Old and In the Way Dec 2013 #156
likely grahamhgreen Dec 2013 #332
Don't question authority Ezlivin Dec 2013 #5
Exactly billhicks76 Dec 2013 #12
The so so-called "Truthers" generally claim that the Saudis didn't do 9-11 cpwm17 Dec 2013 #20
It seems you're not interested in what really happened, not interested in government secrecy, Ace Acme Dec 2013 #22
Very Eloquent billhicks76 Dec 2013 #52
Actually those who are seeking the truth about 9/11 Ezlivin Dec 2013 #26
I don't believe in any "official story" cpwm17 Dec 2013 #41
Nonsense! a truther(as I am) merely knows we were lied to and wants the truth! n/t wildbilln864 Dec 2013 #46
+1 simple as that BelgianMadCow Dec 2013 #48
I'm not a truther and I know we were lied to cpwm17 Dec 2013 #49
And it seems that all you're interested in is truthers being wrong. Ace Acme Dec 2013 #56
you're correct that you're not a truther.... wildbilln864 Dec 2013 #81
thank you wildbill barbtries Dec 2013 #141
A "Truther" comes with a whole lot of baggage cpwm17 Dec 2013 #168
On Planet Cpwm, a "truther" comes with a whole lot of baggage Ace Acme Dec 2013 #169
yada yada, blah blah! thanks for your opinion... wildbilln864 Dec 2013 #173
Doesn't it raise your suspicions when emotional rhetoric is developed which is intended to... Indi Guy Dec 2013 #176
They are self described as "truthers" cpwm17 Dec 2013 #178
I don't believe you are correct. Indi Guy Dec 2013 #179
Visit the Creative Speculation Group cpwm17 Dec 2013 #180
I'm familiar with that forum and also with... Indi Guy Dec 2013 #181
911Truth.org loses all credibility when they promote nonsense cpwm17 Dec 2013 #191
Really? Indi Guy Dec 2013 #192
Obviously they are promoting demolitions of the buildings cpwm17 Dec 2013 #193
That's all very interesting, but it doesn't answer my question. Indi Guy Dec 2013 #194
Gravity pulls towards the center of mass of an object cpwm17 Dec 2013 #195
Gravity pulls toward the center of mass of the system, i.e., the earth. Ace Acme Dec 2013 #197
That's not what I experienced at all. AZCat Dec 2013 #201
Most structural engineers were surprised when the towers fell, says NOVA. Ace Acme Dec 2013 #211
That's not my experience. AZCat Dec 2013 #218
Maybe the engineers you've talked to are afraid to challenge groupthink? Ace Acme Dec 2013 #224
Engineers are no better than any other group of people - maybe worse. AZCat Dec 2013 #256
40 PhD engineers in AE911Truth are calling for new investigations. Ace Acme Dec 2013 #258
Lots, probably. AZCat Dec 2013 #260
Probably. IOW, you can't name anyone. Ace Acme Dec 2013 #261
It's not really that interesting a question for me. AZCat Dec 2013 #263
Right, you're more comfortable with your evidence-free assumptions. Ace Acme Dec 2013 #265
Actually, it's those versed in "truther" pseudo-science William Seger Dec 2013 #202
Nobody says that buildings injured at the top should topple from the bottom. Ace Acme Dec 2013 #208
LOL, when I was a little kid... William Seger Dec 2013 #214
You have changed the subject from your false claim Ace Acme Dec 2013 #215
Bullshit William Seger Dec 2013 #216
You said in post 202 "toppled over like trees". Trees topple from the bottom. Ace Acme Dec 2013 #219
I respect your stance on the events of that day... Indi Guy Dec 2013 #199
The towers looked nothing like controlled demolitions cpwm17 Dec 2013 #203
I think you've got things a little backward here. Indi Guy Dec 2013 #205
It's bat-shit crazy to believe that the buildings were taken down by demolitions cpwm17 Dec 2013 #207
Why do you think access was impossible? Ace Acme Dec 2013 #212
I have made no claims other than to question yours,... Indi Guy Dec 2013 #213
Your take on the physical evidence is radically dogmatic... mallard Dec 2013 #325
So it appears that you disagree with the OP and Sen. Bob Graham cpwm17 Dec 2013 #331
Just a couple of things for now... Indi Guy Dec 2013 #333
Neither of those is that surprising, really. AZCat Dec 2013 #338
For the time being... Indi Guy Dec 2013 #339
Are you arguing that materials can be determined from colors in photos? AZCat Dec 2013 #350
So you are claiming that Professors of Engineering don't know steel when they see it? Ace Acme Dec 2013 #345
Anybody can be mistaken, no matter what the qualifications. AZCat Dec 2013 #353
What about melting of girders do you not understand? Do you think there were lead girders? Ace Acme Dec 2013 #355
Narratives are one thing, hard evidence another. AZCat Dec 2013 #356
Indeed they are. Which is why NIST's narrative is an unacceptable substitute for hard evidence. nt Ace Acme Dec 2013 #362
Gosh, if only they had hard evidence. AZCat Dec 2013 #364
The 10,000 pages contain only a one-paragraph narration of the propagation of the collapse Ace Acme Dec 2013 #366
It has more than that. AZCat Dec 2013 #367
Oh, so it's two paragraphs? It's been a while since I've looked at it. nt Ace Acme Dec 2013 #370
At the link you posted... Indi Guy Dec 2013 #373
The Scientific Method Ace Acme Dec 2013 #375
Thank you for responding. Indi Guy Dec 2013 #376
Large aircraft struck the towers. The towers fell down. Ace Acme Dec 2013 #343
It appears that you don't read very carefully. Indi Guy Dec 2013 #347
It appears that you mistook my response to cpwm for a response to you. Ace Acme Dec 2013 #349
I owe you an apology. Indi Guy Dec 2013 #351
Not at all. You made an understandable error. The non-indented posts are confusing. nt Ace Acme Dec 2013 #357
There's a way to view sub-threads that shows indenting. AZCat Dec 2013 #358
There was nothing chaotic about the towers' collapse. The order is the surprising thing. Ace Acme Dec 2013 #209
Well stated. Also, although it's obvious that WTC7 fell virtually at free fall speed as well... Indi Guy Dec 2013 #221
Too many advocates of 9/11 conspiracy theories make repulsive (and unconvincing) claims of proof. nt Ace Acme Dec 2013 #225
Yes; and on the other side of the coin... Indi Guy Dec 2013 #226
And the twenty-two witnesses who heard explosions and saw the cracks they caused Th1onein Dec 2013 #230
That is remarkable testimony BelgianMadCow Dec 2013 #232
This is interesting... Indi Guy Dec 2013 #235
Very Interesting thanks!...nt Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #240
Checkout... Indi Guy Dec 2013 #241
I wonder why there is no similar august body of architects, physic experts, and engineers Old and In the Way Dec 2013 #243
Common sense demands that... Indi Guy Dec 2013 #244
It's common sense to ask that the government deliver the objectives of the reports. Ace Acme Dec 2013 #246
From everything I've read... Indi Guy Dec 2013 #250
Most of the relevant professional organizations agree with the conclusions of the NIST. AZCat Dec 2013 #257
Failing to dispute the conclusions is hardly agreeing with the conclusions. Ace Acme Dec 2013 #259
I'm not going to bet, because it's not that interesting a consideration. AZCat Dec 2013 #262
I don't need to know anything about dynamic loading. Ace Acme Dec 2013 #264
You don't? Then why are you making claims about it? AZCat Dec 2013 #267
Please respond to post # 266 n/t Indi Guy Dec 2013 #268
Please have a little patience. n/t AZCat Dec 2013 #271
I'm not. nt Ace Acme Dec 2013 #269
That's not what your post says. AZCat Dec 2013 #273
It must be pretty damned interesting because it keeps..... wildbilln864 Jan 2014 #382
Since you edited to include another section after I responded... AZCat Dec 2013 #274
How can organizations concur with conclusions NIST has refused to publish? Indi Guy Dec 2013 #266
That isn't the conclusions. AZCat Dec 2013 #270
What about the thermal expansion calcs that NIST refused to release on grounds of public safety? Ace Acme Dec 2013 #275
Again, you should refrain from discussing topics out of your bailiwick. AZCat Dec 2013 #277
There is no reason for me to do calculations NIST refuses to release. Ace Acme Dec 2013 #279
Again, your logic is bizarre. AZCat Dec 2013 #281
The reality is that their calcs have not been released. No check on that is necesary. nt Ace Acme Dec 2013 #282
Sure it is. AZCat Dec 2013 #283
They haven't checked that the calcs have been released, because they haven't been. nt Ace Acme Dec 2013 #285
They've checked by doing their own work. All competent professionals should... AZCat Dec 2013 #287
Doing their own work is not releasing the calcs. nt Ace Acme Dec 2013 #289
I think you've lost the thread of this conversation. AZCat Dec 2013 #291
Does the fact that NIST won't release data which appear to be crucial to their conclusions... Indi Guy Dec 2013 #278
I don't remember saying I agreed with the NIST. AZCat Dec 2013 #280
Thanks for the honest explanations & responses to my questions. Indi Guy Dec 2013 #284
I would hope the NIST's info is better quality. AZCat Dec 2013 #286
NIST's WTC7 models bear no resemblance to reality. Ace Acme Dec 2013 #288
Interestingly enough, I was surprised when the NIST modelled the collapse. AZCat Dec 2013 #290
Yeah, the real collapse turned out to be simpler than a tortured, complicated model. Ace Acme Dec 2013 #292
How many times do I need to remind you it's not a good idea... AZCat Dec 2013 #293
It's not simple to someone who labors to complicate it, that's for certain. nt Ace Acme Dec 2013 #295
That doesn't make any sense. AZCat Dec 2013 #302
That makes perfect sense. Lawyers labor to complicate every issue to gain advantage Ace Acme Dec 2013 #303
Why are we talking about lawyers? AZCat Dec 2013 #309
Because some of us around here act like public-spirited citizens seeking investigations` Ace Acme Dec 2013 #316
To which group belong the posters who think they know something about physics... AZCat Dec 2013 #318
Claiming mistakes is not noting them. You make empty claims. Ace Acme Dec 2013 #320
You posted a definition of kinetic energy, claiming that was the energy equation. AZCat Dec 2013 #322
I posted the equation for kinetic energy. You're playing some juvenile game. nt Ace Acme Dec 2013 #334
I'm not the one pretending to know something about a subject... AZCat Dec 2013 #337
Obsessive posting of empty claims makes a guy look foolish. Ace Acme Dec 2013 #346
That's why my claims aren't empty. AZCat Dec 2013 #352
Your claims aren't empty to you. Ace Acme Dec 2013 #361
Unsubstantiated in what way? AZCat Dec 2013 #363
Unsubstantiated in that your assertions reference no authority but that of an Ace Acme Dec 2013 #365
I don't rely on my authority. AZCat Dec 2013 #368
You expect me to. nt Ace Acme Dec 2013 #371
I'm curious. Indi Guy Dec 2013 #372
Really, NIST published this as their model of how WTC 7 went down? Old and In the Way Dec 2013 #304
Also note, they cut off the animation before the collapse is finished. Ace Acme Dec 2013 #305
I think you're making much ado about nothing. AZCat Dec 2013 #307
NIST's implicit admission that their analysis is inconsistent with laws of physics is nothing? nt Ace Acme Dec 2013 #312
I think you're reading too much into this. AZCat Dec 2013 #317
Given your apparent emotional investment in the notion of NIST's integrity, no surprise there. nt Ace Acme Dec 2013 #319
What investment is that? AZCat Dec 2013 #321
Oh, you haven't spent many years here bullying people who question the official reports? Ace Acme Dec 2013 #323
No, I haven't. AZCat Dec 2013 #324
Making empty claims that I have a poor grasp of physics is not bullying? Ace Acme Dec 2013 #326
Making empty claims might be. AZCat Dec 2013 #327
What is the reality? Old and In the Way Dec 2013 #328
I think that's a false construct. AZCat Dec 2013 #329
Sorry, but I have to chime in here. Indi Guy Dec 2013 #330
I didn't say you shouldn't consider that it might lie. AZCat Dec 2013 #336
I get that; but... Indi Guy Dec 2013 #341
You can always question. In fact, it's an important component... AZCat Dec 2013 #354
On the basis of protecting democracy alone Ace Acme Dec 2013 #359
While I'm not out demonstrating in the streets... AZCat Dec 2013 #360
Public safety??? Indi Guy Dec 2013 #369
It's a lost cause, in my opinion. AZCat Dec 2013 #310
Thanks for sharing. nt Ace Acme Dec 2013 #314
You're welcome, by the way. n/t AZCat Dec 2013 #294
Yeah, we're so lucky to have someone here who knows all the secrets of all the secret modeling Ace Acme Dec 2013 #296
I'm not sure where you get these ridiculous notions. AZCat Dec 2013 #297
You forgot post 280? Did someone else write it? nt Ace Acme Dec 2013 #299
Then why didn't you respond to that instead of #294? AZCat Dec 2013 #300
'Cause I like to think I'm cutting edge, looking forward, not back. Y'know? nt Ace Acme Dec 2013 #306
That isn't consistent with your posting history, in my opinion. AZCat Dec 2013 #308
If you don't know that cutting edge often involves very old stuff Ace Acme Dec 2013 #313
Oooo! Oooo! I know! I know! Ace Acme Dec 2013 #272
That's a strange approach. AZCat Dec 2013 #276
Wow, and here's the 911 truth dot org site publishing an article on the Saudis Th1onein Dec 2013 #229
That is a very interesting and pertinent article. Indi Guy Dec 2013 #254
Condi lied under oath when she claimed that the "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US" memo Ace Acme Dec 2013 #51
Government officials, like everybody else, lie to cover their own butts cpwm17 Dec 2013 #59
So at 2:30 you claim that truthers can't show that the government lied Ace Acme Dec 2013 #71
She Lied About This Too billhicks76 Dec 2013 #96
This message was self-deleted by its author Ace Acme Dec 2013 #53
You mean the evidence that the government wants you to believe, don't you? Th1onein Dec 2013 #228
Not One Unified View billhicks76 Dec 2013 #50
there's more than one set of questions about 9/11 & more than one person asking or trying to answer yurbud Dec 2013 #144
"Truthers," as the name implies, are demanding the truth from our government. Th1onein Dec 2013 #227
Brilliant post .. Lenomsky Dec 2013 #27
Of course. How can this possibly be such a surprise closeupready Dec 2013 #6
of course the saudis are responsible they wanted the troops we had there at the airbase leftyohiolib Dec 2013 #7
Old news.... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2013 #8
Great clip, but it says nothing about the news in the OP that... Indi Guy Dec 2013 #15
There's always THIS... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2013 #19
Once again... Indi Guy Dec 2013 #29
Considering the Bush / FOX "News" / Saudi relationship I figure there are SEVERAL smoking guns. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2013 #43
it was more than that. yurbud Dec 2013 #101
Well sure it was. Suicide crazies are made to order there. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2013 #102
aren't you at least a little curious what went on with the Saudi gov't and 9/11, given that the whol yurbud Dec 2013 #123
I get that the Republicans run by Cheney used 9/11 as if it was a gift.... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2013 #140
does it matter to you whether they just "used" it versus at minimum protecting those actually guilty yurbud Dec 2013 #142
Sure, but every time anyone mentions actions against the Saudis we hear they're too big to fail. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2013 #145
What they did needs to at least be made clear, so the public can evaluate whether "too big to fail" yurbud Dec 2013 #147
There are some people in this country who believe it was Hollywood Liberals. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2013 #148
the bigger they are, the more they need to take a fall for their crimes yurbud Dec 2013 #170
The bigger they are, the more people WANT to see them fall. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2013 #222
Here's former senator with first-hand knowledge, Bob Graham on the same matter: BelgianMadCow Dec 2013 #9
Good post... Indi Guy Dec 2013 #238
And I still say packman Dec 2013 #10
"You think I want to send my son to die in Kuwait?" KansDem Dec 2013 #11
2003 CBS report claims the 28 pages are about Saudi involvement Ace Acme Dec 2013 #13
Tim Osman! n/t wildbilln864 Dec 2013 #54
If wikileaks or anonymous were to release anything, these 28 pages would be it... Javaman Dec 2013 #14
From your lips to Anonymous/Wikileaks ears. loudsue Dec 2013 #31
Wikileaks declared a long time ago that they don't do 9/11. Ace Acme Dec 2013 #34
I can understand their position. loudsue Dec 2013 #38
This is the reason why CTs linger about 9/11 blackspade Dec 2013 #16
That, and the fact that it would have been near impossible for one guy to bring four planes down FiveGoodMen Dec 2013 #161
Didn't Bush stroll down the lane holding hands Kingofalldems Dec 2013 #24
Kissed him, too. loudsue Dec 2013 #32
Isn't that what's done... Indi Guy Dec 2013 #118
In this particular case, it was America that got screwed. nt Old and In the Way Dec 2013 #157
Conspiracies don't exist, there is nothing to see, here, go back to sleep. Uncle Joe Dec 2013 #25
Thanks Joe. For the record... Indi Guy Dec 2013 #117
There are many unanswered questions regarding the events of 9/11 debunkthis Dec 2013 #28
I'll debunk that. Those cuts were made in the cleanup process by a thermal lance. Ace Acme Dec 2013 #30
Holy shit AtheistCrusader Dec 2013 #35
I don't think so. I'm on the side of truth. nt Ace Acme Dec 2013 #36
Uh-huh. AtheistCrusader Dec 2013 #37
That is a first responder in the lower left image debunkthis Dec 2013 #39
Firefighters were present at all stages of debris removal. AtheistCrusader Dec 2013 #40
Ok then debunkthis Dec 2013 #63
Define 'just after the collapse'. AtheistCrusader Dec 2013 #64
What that shows is not an angle-cut column but a perimeter column module perched at the top Ace Acme Dec 2013 #75
Hmmm... debunkthis Dec 2013 #110
and with that, Truthy to POWER! snooper2 Dec 2013 #131
There's a lot of nonsense floating around the internet--and a lot of the 9/11 stuff is like Ace Acme Dec 2013 #136
LOL, I know all about Richard Gage- just like his buddy Alex Jones snooper2 Dec 2013 #137
A PhD structural engineer can not refute criticisms of his report and must resort Ace Acme Dec 2013 #143
Dude or Dudette, you folks have had over a decade now---You got nothing snooper2 Dec 2013 #146
So now you change the subject from Dr. Sunder's apparent inability to refute criticism Ace Acme Dec 2013 #149
Good post. ronnie624 Dec 2013 #120
got a link for that ? questionseverything Dec 2013 #158
Here you go Ace Acme Dec 2013 #159
all those links say is questionseverything Dec 2013 #164
The meme that the collapse was caused by the planes hitting was put out quickly: Th1onein Dec 2013 #231
That was awkward. thanks ! Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #242
Boring attempt. AtheistCrusader Dec 2013 #33
Here's a better challenge for you. WTC 7 collapse BelgianMadCow Dec 2013 #70
You are distracting from an actual issue. AtheistCrusader Dec 2013 #74
The Distraction is Pertinent Ace Acme Dec 2013 #82
The Saudi revelations/redactions are a political issue, relevant regardless of whether AtheistCrusader Dec 2013 #85
Doubts about the integrity of an official gov't report during a time of politicized science Ace Acme Dec 2013 #87
Not hijacking it was also my intent. AtheistCrusader Dec 2013 #89
The very fact of the redactions to the official government report... Indi Guy Dec 2013 #121
I OPd on DU about the Saudi issue weeks ago. And I'm free to discuss anything I want BelgianMadCow Dec 2013 #88
You are free to state anything you want. AtheistCrusader Dec 2013 #91
Indeed. And yes, you are free to dismiss my statement. BelgianMadCow Dec 2013 #95
ty... wildbilln864 Dec 2013 #90
that's a different kind of issue than who actually funded and coordinated the attacks and why they yurbud Dec 2013 #124
k & fucking r! n/t wildbilln864 Dec 2013 #42
The Bushes and the Bin Ladens have been doing business together for decades! N/T wildbilln864 Dec 2013 #44
If our government is going to deliberately hide the truth Bradical79 Dec 2013 #47
That seems like a reasonable statement. Indi Guy Dec 2013 #139
According to those who talk shit to CT's, the gov't NEVER lies, everything has been reported & mother earth Dec 2013 #60
Ah, the very definition of a strawman takes shape and rises under it's own power, so large AtheistCrusader Dec 2013 #61
Crusader, where's your super hero outfit? The one with the big "S" for sucker. nt mother earth Dec 2013 #65
Surely you can offer just one post from a 'person who shits on CT'rs' that exhibits the elements you AtheistCrusader Dec 2013 #66
The blade is dull, AC. You disappoint, and clearly you don't pay attention. nt mother earth Dec 2013 #68
So, no link then. I thought not. AtheistCrusader Dec 2013 #69
You are always right, that's why you are a superhero. mother earth Dec 2013 #72
Your original assertion remains a strawman. They are not difficult to set on fire. Simply ask for AtheistCrusader Dec 2013 #73
I need evidence, but when evidence is hidden away by the gov't, it's completely unnecessary. mother earth Dec 2013 #77
You have none, because no one makes the ridiculous claims you fabricated here. AtheistCrusader Dec 2013 #78
I've been told that personally in other encounters, specifically the JFK threads of late, not that I mother earth Dec 2013 #79
A link will do. AtheistCrusader Dec 2013 #80
Who TF are you to demand anything of me? You've got big ones, for sure. mother earth Dec 2013 #83
You made a broad brush attack, a very specific one, against a group of DU members. AtheistCrusader Dec 2013 #86
Post 41 in this very thread. Ace Acme Dec 2013 #93
And what I wrote is the exact opposite of the claim cpwm17 Dec 2013 #107
OK, my misreading. Confirmation bias is a terrible thing. nt Ace Acme Dec 2013 #125
That post is accurate. Truther's did not uncover this set of documents. AtheistCrusader Dec 2013 #119
Truthers are the only ones educating people about them. Ace Acme Dec 2013 #182
Right, that totally explains why the International Business Times ran the story. AtheistCrusader Dec 2013 #183
Ran what story? When? Did they point out that Condi lied under oath? Ace Acme Dec 2013 #184
They. Ran. The. Story. In. The. Op. AtheistCrusader Dec 2013 #186
They haven't uncovered the documents. They're still redacted--as truthers have been pointing out Ace Acme Dec 2013 #189
This type of story is an extremely rare occurrence in the MSM... Indi Guy Dec 2013 #185
WaPo's Dana Priest explained the rationale they operate under Ace Acme Dec 2013 #187
I posted these thoughts earlier, but I think they might also be appropriate here... Indi Guy Dec 2013 #188
US media's coverage of 9/11 has been consistently awful noise Dec 2013 #196
I posted this earlier, but it applies directly to what you're saying: Indi Guy Dec 2013 #220
The awful media coverage noise Dec 2013 #234
That's a lie.-nt Bradical79 Dec 2013 #150
It's a pretty fair description of the quality of argument that the "debunkers" employ Ace Acme Dec 2013 #152
That's pretty interesting. ZombieHorde Dec 2013 #62
I doubt anything would. n/t wildbilln864 Dec 2013 #67
Ohh exciting, I can't wait to hear what bandar bush was up to...nt Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #92
We already know that his wife was writing checks for benefactors of known al Qaeda agents Ace Acme Dec 2013 #97
We're not likely to know anything soon. Indi Guy Dec 2013 #190
I'm impressed a Republican is onboard yurbud Dec 2013 #99
Walter Jones is one of the very few Good Repugs..... KoKo Dec 2013 #111
We attacked one country that had nothing to do with 9/11 & one that was at worst terrorists... yurbud Dec 2013 #100
Taliban was one of 13 foreign countries that warned us before 9/11. Ace Acme Dec 2013 #104
and..... wildbilln864 Dec 2013 #115
I guess you disagree with this OP concerning Saudi Arabia's involvement in 9-11 cpwm17 Dec 2013 #129
Sy Hersh did the definitive story on the bug out at Tora Bora yurbud Dec 2013 #122
I remember Hersh on the Kunduz Airlift. Not so much on Tora Bora. Ace Acme Dec 2013 #126
Remember bin Laden's AQ Fortress at Tora Bora? Old and In the Way Dec 2013 #162
yep--I remember later stories that most caves were just deep enough to get out of sight for a minute yurbud Dec 2013 #171
Still believe that the bin Ladens were flying around looking for cheap American land to buy on 9/11 blkmusclmachine Dec 2013 #108
And horses. And land for horses. nt Ace Acme Dec 2013 #113
The time has come. That no Congresscritter went into that "Secret Room" KoKo Dec 2013 #116
K&R! Omaha Steve Dec 2013 #128
This is the time of pretension polynomial Dec 2013 #130
I wish I shared your optimism 2banon Dec 2013 #198
I linked the recent interview of Bob Graham upthread BelgianMadCow Dec 2013 #200
Charlie Rose bemoans faltering relationship with Saudi Arabia 2banon Dec 2013 #210
Here's a connection worth looking into... Indi Guy Dec 2013 #342
Is Ptech the connection you were referring to? 2banon Dec 2013 #344
Indeed. Indi Guy Dec 2013 #348
"Move along. Nothing to see here." - CorporateMedia Borg, Inc. (R - Propaganda Catapult) Berlum Dec 2013 #132
K&R DeSwiss Dec 2013 #133
All this dirty Saudi laundry should have been aired out JEB Dec 2013 #135
Mucho wow!! El Shaman Dec 2013 #151
I'll raise your mucho, with a grande wow! Old and In the Way Dec 2013 #163
Howard Dean mused on whether Bush had advance knowledge of 9/11 . . . . Ace Acme Dec 2013 #166
If 9/11 had happened on Obama's watch with the same action/reactions, I guarantee you that Old and In the Way Dec 2013 #167
Some would say that... Indi Guy Dec 2013 #206
My theory posted for the first time anywhere. Soundman Dec 2013 #160
According to FEMA's zipper-pancake theory that was conventional engineering wisdom for 3 years Ace Acme Dec 2013 #165
Nice you could send anyone who was involved to private prisons or tortured, ooops they drowned mitty14u2 Dec 2013 #172
Daniel Hopsicker.... wildbilln864 Dec 2013 #174
He must be embarrassed by the "freedom fries" BlueToTheBone Dec 2013 #204
Inside the Saudi 9/11 coverup Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #236
Senator Bob Graham and 9/11 Commissioners Bob Kerry, Max Cleland, Lee Hamilton, and Tom Kean... Indi Guy Dec 2013 #239
9-11 was about selfish, right-wing, bloodsucking parasites in the Middle East cpwm17 Dec 2013 #379
There are a number of points I'd like to discuss with you here... Indi Guy Dec 2013 #380
doesn't look like he's going to touch it eh? wildbilln864 Jan 2014 #383
Thanks for viewing these short clips. Indi Guy Jan 2014 #384
I've been arguing with.... wildbilln864 Jan 2014 #385
Thanks. Indi Guy Jan 2014 #386
absolutely! wildbilln864 Jan 2014 #389
and a kick! eom. wildbilln864 Dec 2013 #255
I'm curious to know what the Congressmen think our relationship should be now, TwilightGardener Dec 2013 #298
There's more. Ace Acme Dec 2013 #301
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I'm still trying to get a response... Indi Guy Dec 2013 #374
UPDATE... Indi Guy Jan 2014 #381
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jan 2014 #387
CIA Threatens 9/11 Researchers After Discovery Of Cover Up Details... wildbilln864 Jan 2014 #388
Well, the producers should have known that... Indi Guy Jan 2014 #390
what is your take on this please? wildbilln864 Jan 2014 #391
Clearly the colonel is believable,... Indi Guy Jan 2014 #392
thanks... wildbilln864 Jan 2014 #393
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