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39. That sounds about right, and teachers' pensions are lower than that

Wed Dec 4, 2013, 04:52 PM

Dec 2013

on average, and not much higher than the average Social Security benefit. I don't believe for one minute the claim IL teachers "average" 48k. That sounds like an outright lie to me.

Fuck anybody on a so-called "Democratic" board who peddles right-wing lies about how "huge" our pensions are.

They aren't. We are fucked over on Social Security besides on benefits we EARNED and paid for.

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Illinois lawmakers approve major pension overhaul [View all] alp227 Dec 2013 OP

It's a big deal. It had to happen. I know I'm gonna get slammed. mucifer Dec 2013 #1

Every time I hear about double dipping it's some upper echelon director or political ... Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2013 #6

People forget Illinois workers and those in 13 other states don't pay duffyduff Dec 2013 #22

No A Little Weird Dec 2013 #8

you are correct..they have been kicking the can. madrchsod Dec 2013 #10

I suspect the poster doesn't even know what "double dipping" is. duffyduff Dec 2013 #21

it will take at least 4 yrs to get rid of the flat tax. madrchsod Dec 2013 #9

What "double dipping"? Do you even know what that means? duffyduff Dec 2013 #20

average CalPERS pension is about $25K annually.... mike_c Dec 2013 #26

That sounds about right, and teachers' pensions are lower than that duffyduff Dec 2013 #39

Like most people discussing this topic you upaloopa Dec 2013 #28

They're coming after SS, too. Chained CPI is the first salvo. duffyduff Dec 2013 #40

I am guessing marsis Dec 2013 #31

I forgot they have "tiers" in IL. Most states don't. n/t duffyduff Dec 2013 #41

Of course marsis Dec 2013 #42

Of course. It never fails. n/t duffyduff Dec 2013 #43

look for it to happen across the country Skittles Dec 2013 #2

Guess which side Rahm's on… Jackpine Radical Dec 2013 #3

Illinois workers need help. Please send .... Scuba Dec 2013 #4

Labor was a big part of Quinns OneCrazyDiamond Dec 2013 #5

This will be devastating to my stepmother-in-law DavidDvorkin Dec 2013 #7

Will it truly be a serious cut to her? frazzled Dec 2013 #14

I'm going by what she has been writing to us DavidDvorkin Dec 2013 #15

Since the details were released only late yesterday afternoon frazzled Dec 2013 #16

The details have been known to state workers. former9thward Dec 2013 #18

Those "big time" pension earners don't pay into Social Security. duffyduff Dec 2013 #24

I live in Illinois and know what I'm talking about frazzled Dec 2013 #27

If someone worked under a contract that had upaloopa Dec 2013 #29

They'll effing GET the pension frazzled Dec 2013 #30

When you want to take away what people worked upaloopa Dec 2013 #35

That one will likely tell you the "taxpayers" are the employers rather duffyduff Dec 2013 #38

Somehow I don't think that is the truth. duffyduff Dec 2013 #36

I hope you are working like hell to keep your pension. duffyduff Dec 2013 #34

"Living" in the state isn't the same thing as actually getting the pension. duffyduff Dec 2013 #37

That's because of the government pension offset duffyduff Dec 2013 #23

Thankfully in NY we have a State Comptroller that is Historic NY Dec 2013 #11

MAD AS HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! chuckstevens Dec 2013 #12

It's just too marsis Dec 2013 #32

A story from Chicago public radio and a small fact Paulie Dec 2013 #13

Teachers do not get SS, state workers do. former9thward Dec 2013 #19

If they ever paid into Social Security in other jobs, they get offsets. duffyduff Dec 2013 #25

Be pro-active about it Jimbo S Dec 2013 #17

Donner party! marsis Dec 2013 #33