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Laelth

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32. Yes, Israel and SA are dependent upon us.

Sun Nov 24, 2013, 10:59 AM

Nov 2013

We have the power to ignore their wishes and pursue our own foreign policy in the region. That does not mean that they like what we're doing.

-Laelth

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AP SOURCE: NO RIGHT TO ENRICH IN IRAN DEAL [View all] bananas Nov 2013 OP

This is probably the greatest foreign policy achievement of recent times... shaayecanaan Nov 2013 #1

Israel and Saudi Arabia do not agree, it appears. Laelth Nov 2013 #28

That was then, this is now Brother Buzz Nov 2013 #42

Well advised. n/t Laelth Nov 2013 #43

Voilà Brother Buzz Nov 2013 #60

Thank you for that post. n/t Laelth Nov 2013 #61

Again, the european whites won by brute force cosmicone Nov 2013 #2

There's no right to enrich in the NPT, to any level. nt bananas Nov 2013 #4

WRONG. Iran has the right to enrich up to certain levels, just not to develop a nuclear weapon on point Nov 2013 #18

WRONG. The NPT doesn't mention certain levels of enrichment, it doesn't mention enrichment at all. bananas Nov 2013 #20

If it doesn't mention enrichment at all dipsydoodle Nov 2013 #29

IAEA has never found Iran in violation of the NPT Ash_F Nov 2013 #45

IAEA: "Iran's failures and breaches constitute non-compliance"; UNSC resolutions are legally binding bananas Nov 2013 #48

Nowhere in there is a finding of violation. Ash_F Nov 2013 #53

They were in violation for almost 20 years before they were caught. bananas Nov 2013 #55

That is not a violation of the NPT. Ash_F Nov 2013 #57

No right under NPT. Sand Wind Nov 2013 #5

There's no explicit right to an abortion under the US constitution either... shaayecanaan Nov 2013 #12

The NPT requires intrusive inspections and monitoring. bananas Nov 2013 #22

That is complete rubbish shaayecanaan Nov 2013 #25

Incorrect and correct. The relevent section is vague, hence debate on interpretation. DRoseDARs Nov 2013 #6

And I'll give you "best response" award for the day! nt 7962 Nov 2013 #9

Oh for petes sake take that load somewhere else or add the sarcasm thingy. 7962 Nov 2013 #8

Who was irrational here, exactly? Scootaloo Nov 2013 #11

Iran was irrational. bananas Nov 2013 #21

I think that's not the word you're looking for. Scootaloo Nov 2013 #41

But not higher than what is needed for medical uses, by my understanding Ash_F Nov 2013 #13

No need to build medical facilities 200 hundred feet under a mountain 7962 Nov 2013 #30

Uranium enrichment facilities are not medical facilities Ash_F Nov 2013 #44

Again, no reason to build it 200 ft underground if its PRODUCT is only for medical use 7962 Nov 2013 #47

It is only the right wing spreading the the lie that it can only be used for weapons. Ash_F Nov 2013 #54

The Iranians themselves never mentioned medical use at the start 7962 Nov 2013 #59

A 850k patient afterthought? Ash_F Nov 2013 #62

You want to trust the Iranians, fine. Go ahead. Whats the risk? 7962 Nov 2013 #63

When you start off with a lie it makes it hard for people to listen to the rest of your arguement Ash_F Nov 2013 #64

I did not LIE. When the subject of medical use was brought up, I answered that factually. 7962 Nov 2013 #65

Let's look at post #8 again. Ash_F Nov 2013 #66

Wrong. Because in the beginning, they said it was for peaceful use; for power generation. 7962 Nov 2013 #67

Sounds like you did not read the article Ash_F Nov 2013 #68

And once again, you dont build medical facilities 200 ft underground 7962 Nov 2013 #69

You and Bibi can throw a pity party together. Waaaaah. nt geek tragedy Nov 2013 #19

Bring some beer n/t cosmicone Nov 2013 #34

yup. delrem Nov 2013 #24

Kerry just got a question about Israel's response and about the response form the US Congress. davidpdx Nov 2013 #3

Couldn't resist is likely the case karynnj Nov 2013 #7

That is a long day davidpdx Nov 2013 #14

Oh shit Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2013 #10

I can see it now....... davidpdx Nov 2013 #15

Kick. (nt) pinto Nov 2013 #16

CNN - 6 month deal, can enrich for non-weapon purposes... jtuck004 Nov 2013 #17

"The first step, let me be clear, does not say that Iran has a right to enrich uranium," Kerry said bananas Nov 2013 #23

but it allows them to keep enriching uranium (nt) shaayecanaan Nov 2013 #26

I suspect Iran might just tell them to fuck off. They reportedly have 19000 centrifuges, jtuck004 Nov 2013 #37

Nope, Iran agreed to cut back it's enrichment program. nt bananas Nov 2013 #49

Cut it back could mean no longer working on weapons-grade enrichment, not stopping. n/t jtuck004 Nov 2013 #50

enrich to 5% max, and get rid of their 20% stockpile bananas Nov 2013 #51

And it doesn't sound like the WH is all that sure of it either... jtuck004 Nov 2013 #52

Two points. Laelth Nov 2013 #27

Not quite shaayecanaan Nov 2013 #31

Yes, Israel and SA are dependent upon us. Laelth Nov 2013 #32

As the link in #17 says, noted in #23, Kerry has said this publicly too muriel_volestrangler Nov 2013 #33

If Secretary Kerry said that, and it appears he did ... Laelth Nov 2013 #36

If Saudis align themselves with Israel cosmicone Nov 2013 #35

Saudi Arabia is already in trouble. Laelth Nov 2013 #38

Destruction of the Saudi Monarchy cosmicone Nov 2013 #39

Perhaps. Laelth Nov 2013 #40

If SA fell into civil war NickB79 Nov 2013 #46

In my mind this sticking point epitomizes how utterly stupid these negotiations are. crim son Nov 2013 #56

Lavrov: Win-win Iran deal only became possible after Rouhani came to power dipsydoodle Nov 2013 #58