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Ash_F

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91. You do realize a lot has happened in the last 70 years right?

Fri Nov 15, 2013, 12:09 PM

Nov 2013

SK has had multiple revolutions in that time period. Things did not settle until the late 80's. Between WW2 and then they spent most of that time fending off right wing %1 cronies, who were supported by America's own right wing 1%'ers

You care too much about this subject to be so poorly educated on it. So here is some further reading.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syngman_Rhee

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North Korea 'executes 80 people for watching foreign films' [View all] hue Nov 2013 OP

If this be true; I believe the names of the souls should be immortalized as Freedom Fighters laserhaas Nov 2013 #1

Isn't Kim dig dong or whatever.. Historic NY Nov 2013 #2

You never heard about Kim Jong-Il's gargantuan VHS-collection? DetlefK Nov 2013 #3

Stalin was a big fan of Hollywood movies. NealK Nov 2013 #14

Saddam Hussein was a fan of the Godfather series and Sopranos. Thought those were Amercian values. freshwest Nov 2013 #61

Really? That explains a lot... nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #121

It was part of the news stories as people were going to Iraq to hopefully stop war, showing how nice freshwest Nov 2013 #122

Ironically, one of his alltime favorites was supposedly "The Grapes of Wrath" Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #74

It's good to be king. (nt) Posteritatis Nov 2013 #7

That is what I thought. applegrove Nov 2013 #57

You should take stories from unsourced SK papers with a grain of salt. /nt Ash_F Nov 2013 #84

Mmm hmm. ronnie624 Nov 2013 #4

I know right! snooper2 Nov 2013 #6

"Citing a “single unidentified” individual as the source of the story" ronnie624 Nov 2013 #8

Yeh. It's a shame when we have to be skeptical of many news stories because there is so much Zorra Nov 2013 #11

A highly charged issue, ronnie624 Nov 2013 #15

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It's my understanding that... EX500rider Nov 2013 #62

You don't believe it? Marrah_G Nov 2013 #13

Not without corroboration from other sources. n/t ronnie624 Nov 2013 #16

There are lots of documentaries on the conditions in NK Marrah_G Nov 2013 #17

Lots of "documentaries" with similar "sources", no doubt. n/t ronnie624 Nov 2013 #18

Okay, I can see this will go nowhere Marrah_G Nov 2013 #19

I dare say, one of the few NK apologists, Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #26

Leaves me shaking my head Marrah_G Nov 2013 #28

Life in N. Korea is, no doubt, oppressive and stultifying, ronnie624 Nov 2013 #32

So the U.S. is to blame for NK not having an open, democratic system? Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #33

Yes. n/t ronnie624 Nov 2013 #35

How did you come to such an odd conclusion? nt geek tragedy Nov 2013 #36

Just another apologist for NK, Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #42

Kind of rings a Bell doesn't it. grantcart Nov 2013 #132

By reading about the history of US involvement in Korea. ronnie624 Nov 2013 #44

Yes, we understand that war was necessary to prevent geek tragedy Nov 2013 #45

I think reunification would be much more likely without US belligerence. n/t ronnie624 Nov 2013 #47

Would the North Korean people rise up and overthrow the current regime geek tragedy Nov 2013 #48

If N. Koreans feel compelled to do so, it is their prerogative. ronnie624 Nov 2013 #51

Without U.S. belligerence? Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #50

You are completely wrong. ronnie624 Nov 2013 #54

I know a hell of alot more about this topic than you think I do. Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #56

What you are saying, in essence, ronnie624 Nov 2013 #49

Who started the war in 1950? Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #53

But South Korean AND the UN objected.. EX500rider Nov 2013 #66

You need to read more history Ash_F Nov 2013 #85

righhhhht. geek tragedy Nov 2013 #86

To try give the US credit for what South Koreans have built is sickening Ash_F Nov 2013 #88

The U.S. gets a lot of credit for the vibrant economy and democracy in S. Korea, Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #89

Not good guys, but your "USA is the root of all evil" analysis is laughable. geek tragedy Nov 2013 #90

You do realize a lot has happened in the last 70 years right? Ash_F Nov 2013 #91

So why is North Korea so much poorer? Why is North Korea still as despotic as geek tragedy Nov 2013 #92

Just read the articles. /nt Ash_F Nov 2013 #93

I read the articles. They don't support your absurd fantasy that NK used to be less geek tragedy Nov 2013 #94

Well that's great that you made some steps to educate yourself. Ash_F Nov 2013 #95

"the atrocities were a major trigger for the war" geek tragedy Nov 2013 #96

Instead of making up strawman to argue with... Ash_F Nov 2013 #97

No, I knew everything that has been discussed already. geek tragedy Nov 2013 #98

Someone that knows their history can tell when they are talking to someone who doesn't Ash_F Nov 2013 #100

Answer: World War 2 happened before the partition. geek tragedy Nov 2013 #101

Well that and the killing of students, liberals and leftists Ash_F Nov 2013 #102

Irrelevant to the fact that the USSR refused to allow elections geek tragedy Nov 2013 #103

Another Strawman. Ash_F Nov 2013 #104

The choices were a unified Communist cult of personality dictatorship geek tragedy Nov 2013 #105

Reading this exchange, you've managed to convince me that you're the one unarmed treestar Nov 2013 #112

Please point to one factually incorrect statement Ash_F Nov 2013 #125

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Well that's something we all agree on.. EX500rider Nov 2013 #123

Why not just debate rather than have a contest about who knows the most? treestar Nov 2013 #134

Hahaha what a cop-out response! Ash_F Nov 2013 #135

As opposed to your wholesale support of a brutal oppressive regime that is Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #136

Another strawman. Ash_F Nov 2013 #137

As soon as the US began to occupy S. Korea in 1945, ronnie624 Nov 2013 #106

N. Korea invaded S. Korea primarily engage a foreign occupier? Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #107

I don't disagree that the goal was reunification, ronnie624 Nov 2013 #109

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Now your sounding just like the former Pravda. Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #117

Amazing how apologists for the Kim dynasty geek tragedy Nov 2013 #108

"Amazing" how "apologists" for ignorance ronnie624 Nov 2013 #110

Your history is about as authentic geek tragedy Nov 2013 #111

Take it up with S. Korea's Truth and Reconciliation Commission, ronnie624 Nov 2013 #114

Of course it does, Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #118

Did you just confuse South Korea and North Korea? Ash_F Nov 2013 #138

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I can read properly, Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #140

South Korea has been a free democracy since the late 1980's Ash_F Nov 2013 #141

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Do they pretend that the USSR didn't exist? nt geek tragedy Nov 2013 #119

"N. Korea "invaded" S. Korea, primarily to engage a foreign occupier." EX500rider Nov 2013 #124

I honestly believe this person is a spokesman for the N. Korean govt. Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #129

This message was self-deleted by its author Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #99

OMG, more cruel and totalitarian than the North? Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #87

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Okay, THAT? Is plain old-fashioned stupid. WinkyDink Nov 2013 #38

Is there a training program for that kind of naivete, or does it just come naturally? (nt) Posteritatis Nov 2013 #41

Wait... EX500rider Nov 2013 #64

I truly think this person would be happy with the Norks Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #69

Generally speaking, North Korea cheerleaders aren't big fans of democracy. (nt) Posteritatis Nov 2013 #71

"I just don't think the current method of political/economic coercion/military threats is the way" EX500rider Nov 2013 #63

Amazing how, for some here, the default is to give NK the benefit of the doubt. 7962 Nov 2013 #52

here are two very credible sources of info Marrah_G Nov 2013 #27

I suggest you read what Amnesty International has to say about NK. Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #31

Actually just look for Vice's Documentaries on Youtube. aptal Nov 2013 #115

threads like this are a great way to find additions to the ignore list ButterflyBlood Nov 2013 #75

I don't get it. I thought Dear Leader loved that shit. Arkana Nov 2013 #5

The dear leader can do whatever he wants Marrah_G Nov 2013 #21

Dear Leader would be pushing up daisies now... jmowreader Nov 2013 #60

...sick and perverted. SoapBox Nov 2013 #9

I Asked Noam Chomsky His Thoughts on the North Korea/US Situation: ronnie624 Nov 2013 #10

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Hmmmm, Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #22

And they don't just arrest the person who they claim committed the crime Marrah_G Nov 2013 #29

The division of Korea was morally illegitimate. ronnie624 Nov 2013 #34

Right, uh huh, sure. Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #37

Hannah Bell, is that you? nt geek tragedy Nov 2013 #39

Was she the one who was all.. EX500rider Nov 2013 #67

Yep. Nt geek tragedy Nov 2013 #68

Hyundai, DaeWoo, LG, and Samsung would beg to differ. WinkyDink Nov 2013 #43

"The division of Korea was morally illegitimate." EX500rider Nov 2013 #73

Dang. greytdemocrat Nov 2013 #83

Do you not understand the use of " "? WinkyDink Nov 2013 #40

Clicking the link will lead to obvious conclusions. ronnie624 Nov 2013 #46

Interesting arikara Nov 2013 #55

Chomsky in this case is full of sh*t.. EX500rider Nov 2013 #70

Kim Jung Un's fate might turn out like Botany Nov 2013 #20

Probably not though Marrah_G Nov 2013 #23

China must withdraw it's patronage. maxsolomon Nov 2013 #24

True Marrah_G Nov 2013 #30

Dennis Rodman will deny it , i'm sure. jessie04 Nov 2013 #58

Great statement. mimi85 Nov 2013 #65

What a brutal, brutal nation. nt valerief Nov 2013 #59

Happens in Baltimore all the time. penultimate Nov 2013 #72

60 Years After The Korean War, The U.S. Must End Its Cold War Alliance With South Korea ronnie624 Nov 2013 #76

That's got to be the most irresponsible opinion piece Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #77

Every analyst worth their salt, knows N. Korea does not want war. ronnie624 Nov 2013 #78

The Norks don't want war with the U.S., Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #79

N. Korea would be no match for S. Korea, ronnie624 Nov 2013 #80

This coming from the same person who blames the U.S. for all the problems in Ven.? Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #81

South Korea's Truth and Reconciliation Commission, ronnie624 Nov 2013 #82

hopefully it was the hustler or Casablanca Doctor_J Nov 2013 #120

If they were watchign Atlas Shrugged DonCoquixote Nov 2013 #126

even in America - watching foreign films leads to leads to liberal counterculture thinking and Douglas Carpenter Nov 2013 #128

I agree, stuff like this happens all the time in the US. Just last week my grandma was sent to penultimate Nov 2013 #131

if not she should have been Douglas Carpenter Nov 2013 #133

Oy. (nt) Posteritatis Nov 2013 #144