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vi5

(13,305 posts)
60. The crime aspect is up to the jury.
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 07:10 PM
Feb 2012

All I said was that of what I could see in the video and what I read of their statement, and what he did he was clearly exhibiting arrogant entitlement.

By trying to go outside in the first place, by assuming having his doctor friend from the ER with him was some sort of pass from hospital rules that anyone who is there for a day knows exists, by releasing a statement saying that this was all just a matter of trying to get their baby some fresh air there is no doubt in my mind that he acted arrogantly and entitled. Just on the stuff that I flat out know. These are the actions and words of an asshole and remind me of every entitled asshole I've ever known (and I've known plenty).

Who did what as far as the aggression and all of that, like I said it's for the jury to decide, not me. But again, given what I do know, it does not seem at all like this is someone who respects the authority of the hospital or anyone in it so there's little about him or his behavior that I do know and can read and see that makes him the least bit sympathetic to me.

Again, I've been the father, with the baby in the hospital. And as frustrated as I may have gotten at times with nurses or doctors, I recognize that in that situation, in that place they are the authority. If I have an issue with that I know there are proper channels to go through and proper protocol. I've held my tongue and my hand, and my patience in far more urgent and pressing and actually medical situations than simply "I want my baby to get some fresh air", so I have zero sympathy or respect for someone who can't do the same. It should never have even gotten to the point where he was walking around with the baby out of the ward. Even if the nurse grabbed him, I do blame him to a very large degree for being in that situation in the first place and for putting the nurses in that position in the first place.

What an odd story! Suich Feb 2012 #1
You can be arrested for doing that? Harmony Blue Feb 2012 #2
For kicking a nurse in the pelvis? Nye Bevan Feb 2012 #30
No evidence that is conclusive Harmony Blue Feb 2012 #81
You are saying that "conclusive evidence" is needed to charge someone? jberryhill Feb 2012 #82
That's certainly what it looks like on the video. Nye Bevan Feb 2012 #86
Hospitals have strict rules on newborns. . . BigDemVoter Feb 2012 #37
Seems like he and his doctor friend thought they were above the rules. Darth_Kitten Feb 2012 #40
maybe he wasn't supposed to go in there himself and needed a nurse to bring the baby out ? JI7 Feb 2012 #3
Those Krazy Kennedys. Drunken Irishman Feb 2012 #4
I think that's the Skakel coming out. MADem Feb 2012 #43
Ambien? EC Feb 2012 #5
You're thinking of Ted's kid. MADem Feb 2012 #45
Or Johnny Walker Blue AngryAmish Feb 2012 #84
the nepotism/arrogance got to him? Guess you can't say he'd know better. alp227 Feb 2012 #6
Maternity units are absolutely terrified of infections - hedgehog Feb 2012 #7
They also have strict protocols to prevent baby theft. MADem Feb 2012 #20
from what I read, this was clearly not a baby theft magical thyme Feb 2012 #34
Do you work in a maternity ward? MADem Feb 2012 #39
not specifically...do you? I work in a hospital lab magical thyme Feb 2012 #47
Thank you for resting MY case for me! MADem Feb 2012 #52
You have no case. THE NURSE SHOULD NOT HAVE PHYSICALLY INTERVENED WITH HIM magical thyme Feb 2012 #54
So says you. I say otherwise. nt MADem Feb 2012 #77
RFKs son which one? YOHABLO Feb 2012 #8
The tenth child, born in 67. MADem Feb 2012 #24
Yes there is something really odd with this story Mojorabbit Feb 2012 #9
We took our daughter to. Brewer game at postulater Feb 2012 #10
I'll never forget the look on the nice lady's face at target who asked how old our son was... lumberjack_jeff Feb 2012 #13
At 8 am, no doubt! postulater Feb 2012 #15
If memory serves, the answer was 16 or 17 hours old. lumberjack_jeff Feb 2012 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author postulater Feb 2012 #14
But she had been discharged from the hospital by then! :) nt Mojorabbit Feb 2012 #16
No, she was born at home. nt postulater Feb 2012 #18
The hospital and the staff better contact their attorneys. AnotherMcIntosh Feb 2012 #11
They already have attorneys on the job. The staff did call a "Code Pink" on the guy. MADem Feb 2012 #21
he ALLEGEDLY kicked her in the pelvis magical thyme Feb 2012 #36
What, she flung herself backward out of that elevator for shits-n-giggles? MADem Feb 2012 #41
are you saying Kennedy fell on his ass with his baby in his arms for shits and giggles? magical thyme Feb 2012 #48
And the hospital, stating for the public record that they have video, are going to lie? MADem Feb 2012 #50
since the video is public, obviously the hospital has video magical thyme Feb 2012 #53
One more time, since you aren't getting it MADem Feb 2012 #78
Recommend reading story at link and watching video - lynne Feb 2012 #12
Couldn't Tell Much From Video DallasNE Feb 2012 #19
The doctor was a "friend" who didn't work there--he had no authority in the facility. MADem Feb 2012 #23
Not So DallasNE Feb 2012 #27
He was an ER doctor--NOT a "maternity ward" doctor. MADem Feb 2012 #29
you might want to update post 23-- "The doctor was a "friend" who didn't work there" snooper2 Feb 2012 #85
He was a friend who did not work on the maternity ward. MADem Feb 2012 #87
I can't toddle off I'm stuck on a conf. call- and you wrote "he had no authority in the facility." snooper2 Feb 2012 #88
I didn't say building or hospital complex. You have fingers, you know. MADem Feb 2012 #89
I didn't read it, wasn't that interested, but your back and forth was interesting... snooper2 Feb 2012 #90
He has been charged. The nurses he kicked and arm twisted are planning to sue. MADem Feb 2012 #22
the nurses he ALLEGEDLY kicked and arm twisted... magical thyme Feb 2012 #35
He said, she said, and the video said. MADem Feb 2012 #42
that someone could just as easily be the nurse herself magical thyme Feb 2012 #49
You aren't seriously suggesting that a maternity ward nurse was using a child as a tug of war rope? MADem Feb 2012 #51
you aren't seriously misrepresenting what I wrote? Maybe she grabbed his arm. Or are you suggesting magical thyme Feb 2012 #55
How nice for you that you left Massachusetts. MADem Feb 2012 #79
there will likely be more serious charges soon for the kick... IamK Feb 2012 #25
I've read accounts; greiner3 Feb 2012 #26
not with C-section. Hospital recoup is 5 days min. Devil_Fish Feb 2012 #28
When are either of these people running for public office? harmonicon Feb 2012 #31
The guy works for Rupert Murdoch--he'd have to run on the GOP ticket to keep his job. nt MADem Feb 2012 #46
But people would still say we should vote for him, because the Kennedy name is magical. nt. harmonicon Feb 2012 #56
Words and deeds, not pedigree. This is America. nt MADem Feb 2012 #76
Jesus, talk about arrogant entitlement.... vi5 Feb 2012 #32
Seems like it.... Darth_Kitten Feb 2012 #33
or a money grab magical thyme Feb 2012 #38
Video shows... vi5 Feb 2012 #57
oh, obviously he should have stopped and gotten the appropriate DRs permission. although, quite fran magical thyme Feb 2012 #58
The crime aspect is up to the jury. vi5 Feb 2012 #60
except it turns out they stopped by the nurses' station first for permission magical thyme Feb 2012 #64
I'm not even necessarily defending the nurses... vi5 Feb 2012 #65
I'm sorry for all you have been through magical thyme Feb 2012 #66
I legitimately don't think he broke any laws..... vi5 Feb 2012 #67
I don't see anything outrageous in a father magical thyme Feb 2012 #68
Hey vi5 Feb 2012 #72
Interesting, isn't it? mainer Feb 2012 #73
gee, my very own stalker magical thyme Feb 2012 #75
I must not be writing very clearly today magical thyme Feb 2012 #74
So effin what? jberryhill Feb 2012 #83
Maternity nurse Cari Luciano says she was stunned to be in scrap with Douglas Kennedy mia Feb 2012 #44
Ah... The arrogance of the 1%! FarCenter Feb 2012 #59
so Kennedy and the on-duty ER doctor stopped by the Nurse's Station first magical thyme Feb 2012 #61
Where is the off-duty doctor in the video? mainer Feb 2012 #70
+1,000 nt MADem Feb 2012 #80
Maybe working for fox has done it. Broderick Feb 2012 #62
Behold the power of the *FK Dreamer Tatum Feb 2012 #63
Does anyone see the "off-duty doctor friend" in the video? mainer Feb 2012 #69
Dr. Haydock, the family friend who "witnessed the whole thing" is a liar mainer Feb 2012 #71
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