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Vinca

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31. Cops need to be taught that tasers are not a weapon of convenience.
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 08:25 AM
Feb 2012

They need to be used ONLY when there is likely immediate SERIOUS injury or death. Tasers have become weapons of convenience/intimidation/sport. Considering the young woman was handcuffed and tasered in the back, this should result in a murder charge but it probably won't in teabagger Florida.

Tasered woman now brain dead [View all] SunSeeker Feb 2012 OP
I hope that officer is charged with murder. CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2012 #1
the news article said that the officer's use of force was justified. Joe Shlabotnik Feb 2012 #4
Whoops. Never mind. Orrex Feb 2012 #16
Son of a bitch could have caught up to her if he was in physical shape. The Backlash Cometh Feb 2012 #62
...and then what? boppers Feb 2012 #198
nope. jschurchin Feb 2012 #210
It's the head bang... zentrum Feb 2012 #215
Tasing in theory, is less violent than a physical tackle. jschurchin Feb 2012 #245
So untrue. The Backlash Cometh Feb 2012 #268
She was already cuffed. caseymoz Feb 2012 #287
She was handcuffed already. eom. boppers Feb 2012 #219
She was cuffed. 1monster Feb 2012 #221
Judgemental name calling cbrer Feb 2012 #293
However did police manage to catch young women pre-Tasers? WinkyDink Feb 2012 #251
Magical sparkling nets of happiness, I think? boppers Feb 2012 #301
Really? Ash_F Feb 2012 #342
Multiple arrested felon, fleeing during transport to jail. boppers Feb 2012 #347
A 20 year old woman, handcuffed, was too much for this big tough guy? sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #298
Who said he was scared? boppers Feb 2012 #300
Why else would a big, tough guy like that feel the need to resort to nearly fatally injuring sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #302
She broke out of arm-grabbing range. boppers Feb 2012 #303
She was a danger to the public? NeoConsSuck Feb 2012 #331
If she ran in front of your car while you're cruising at 60 mph, and you swerved to miss her NickB79 Feb 2012 #346
I agree that the cop tased her because he was in no shape to chase her rocktivity Feb 2012 #231
In a sane world, traffic offenses are not considered capital crimes n/t MrModerate Feb 2012 #292
In that "sane" world, do car accidents not kill people? boppers Feb 2012 #304
So those thought to be at fault in an auto accident should be hanged from the nearest lamppost? MrModerate Feb 2012 #341
Or questioned. Until they're found to be driving without a license. boppers Feb 2012 #348
I think the guilt-o-meter on this one is all over the dial . . . MrModerate Feb 2012 #351
OK, so a 20 year old made a mistake & ran,.. handcuffed,... red dog 1 Feb 2012 #294
Post removed Post removed Feb 2012 #229
As a parent, I kept thinking that could have been my kid. SunSeeker Feb 2012 #5
So you want a 267 Lb man tackling a 100 lb woman. Yeah, that's not a recipe for injury. Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #52
A broken leg would have been a better scenario. The Backlash Cometh Feb 2012 #64
No, Bad judgment on the girl's part thedude333 Feb 2012 #74
so she deserved to die SemperEadem Feb 2012 #79
I feel your pain. The Backlash Cometh Feb 2012 #84
Post removed Post removed Feb 2012 #93
No, this is not the kind of response one would expect on DU... rexcat Feb 2012 #116
We don't call posters on DU dehumanizing names like that. MineralMan Feb 2012 #119
It's the strict xxqqqzme Feb 2012 #132
fucking ridiculous - yes she DESERVED to be met with force - She tried to escape a jail SaintPete Feb 2012 #194
No, killing this woman is disgusting. Boudica the Lyoness Feb 2012 #288
she didn't deserve *****TO DIE***** SemperEadem Feb 2012 #321
I couldn't agree less with the false argument - comparing perfectly legal examples of stereotypical 24601 Feb 2012 #269
no it doesn't SemperEadem Feb 2012 #322
Your saying it doesn't make it so. Given your statements - it likely makes it less so. 24601 Feb 2012 #337
In the same way that a woman who doesn't wear underwear deserves to be raped? The Backlash Cometh Feb 2012 #82
You're kidding, right? crim son Feb 2012 #113
There's a whole Supreme Court standard for it. boppers Feb 2012 #213
Right, it involves involves using good judgment under the circumstances, which this cop didn't do. SunSeeker Feb 2012 #259
You show much compasion for your fellow humans... rexcat Feb 2012 #117
Welcome to DU. One thing, if you want to look like a Democrat you must show rhett o rick Feb 2012 #152
Your immorality will fall back on you. tabasco Feb 2012 #227
No, she didn't. To get the death penalty, you have to be charged with murder, then you are sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #299
So when a 267 lb man tackles a 100 lb woman Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #129
he didn't even have to tackle her noiretextatique Feb 2012 #149
With what? boppers Feb 2012 #226
um...he could have run after her noiretextatique Feb 2012 #241
You do realize that cops chase and apprehend people all the time, right? Hugabear Feb 2012 #295
I can't get the link to work so I've got a question regarding madmom Feb 2012 #96
She had just been booked and was trying to escape Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #131
DRUGS IN HER SYSTEM, OMG. Well death is justified then. nm rhett o rick Feb 2012 #160
Wow. Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #175
Someone's sarcasmometer needs tuning ... nt eppur_se_muova Feb 2012 #265
I understood the sarcasm just fine Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #266
"Talk about a stupid post." Is that all you have. We are done. nm rhett o rick Feb 2012 #310
Nope, that is not all I had Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #313
oh, well there it is.. total justification for forfeiting her life SemperEadem Feb 2012 #170
Ooops, your slip is showing. To suggest that someone here suggested that rhett o rick Feb 2012 #140
He could have just shot her in the ankle. She may have been hamstrung, but she'd be alive. nt Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #145
No one suggested he should tackle her? Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #185
I believe those were all after your post, "So you want a 267 Lb man tackling a 100 lb woman." rhett o rick Feb 2012 #308
"Interesting how some "Democrats"" Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #315
"She is a criminal"? Oh really. So you've tried and convicted her and think she therefore rhett o rick Feb 2012 #328
Yes, she is a criminal Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #336
No, he should have just grabbed her by her handcuffed arms--no injury. SunSeeker Feb 2012 #166
She was handcuffed in front. nt Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #167
So? He could have grabbed either arm, or both, from behind. SunSeeker Feb 2012 #169
You ever try to restrain someone who is trying run purposefully into a busy road? Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #174
Yes, I do it all the time with my 8-year-old. SunSeeker Feb 2012 #181
How often is he irrational and hyped-up Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #186
Your 8 year does coke and oxy. Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #187
People do irrational things, whether on drugs or not. SunSeeker Feb 2012 #196
They are able to handle it. Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #209
Tasers and pepper spray are for self defense, not to extract "cooperation." SunSeeker Feb 2012 #220
Um, no Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #225
So it was OK for that campus cop to pepper spray all those UC Davis students? SunSeeker Feb 2012 #260
It depends on the specific case. Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #264
Stop going on about drugs. Boudica the Lyoness Feb 2012 #290
Yes I do. Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #317
Less about irrationality more about sensory perception and pain tolerance. nt Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #286
Did you see the video? Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #171
Yes, I did. The cop didn't even try. SunSeeker Feb 2012 #177
I disagree Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #192
No, you agree. SunSeeker Feb 2012 #199
I do like to disagree. Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #207
LOL. n/t SunSeeker Feb 2012 #214
It's all about controlling people isn't it? Boudica the Lyoness Feb 2012 #289
This "poor girl" Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #318
no jschurchin Feb 2012 #212
And then get on message boards and commit Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #217
Wow, I cannot believe your Carolina Feb 2012 #273
She didn't deserve it Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #274
Exactly. It would have been a simple matter for the officer to just throw his baton at her legs or Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #56
Actually, it looked to me as if the spinning around and hitting the ground Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #61
Sometimes it's not worth using the sarcasm tag. Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #63
Well... Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #89
LOL, 360 degrees would put her back on her face. nm rhett o rick Feb 2012 #159
He wont be because they already found that he used it cstanleytech Feb 2012 #8
Then the police department should be sued. The Backlash Cometh Feb 2012 #65
The parents can certainly try but considering it was done only after cstanleytech Feb 2012 #137
AND the people who gave him that taser, AND the people who sold that taser. DCKit Feb 2012 #10
I live near this classykaren Feb 2012 #13
Post removed Post removed Feb 2012 #230
Me too secondvariety Feb 2012 #234
Why? thedude333 Feb 2012 #78
Why? It's still a use of excessive force. Obviously. AnotherMcIntosh Feb 2012 #138
Appalling. BlueIris Feb 2012 #2
Perhaps I misread it but wasnt its the hitting her head on the pavement and not the taser cstanleytech Feb 2012 #9
Maybe the cop would have been better to just chase after her and grab her then? Kurmudgeon Feb 2012 #11
OH I agree he probably would have been better to chase her but I am talking about the claim cstanleytech Feb 2012 #12
Well if you are tasered and fall to the ground and hit your head malaise Feb 2012 #14
Well for one a bullet hole in the back of the head probably cstanleytech Feb 2012 #17
Some would prefer simply to see police punished for excessive use of force Scootaloo Feb 2012 #22
And I agree if excessive force is used it should be punished but thats not cstanleytech Feb 2012 #27
A taser can kill you no matter where you are hit. Occulus Feb 2012 #124
So are you arguing then that guns with bullets are a better alternative? cstanleytech Feb 2012 #134
Guns were used far less than tasers are today Scootaloo Feb 2012 #168
There is a huge difference between tasering a child and cstanleytech Feb 2012 #176
No one here is "arguing then that guns with bullets are a better alternative." rhett o rick Feb 2012 #309
"More and more people are being killed by police for not obeying" Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #312
Hey it's my opinion. nm rhett o rick Feb 2012 #327
He had 3 options right at that minute cstanleytech Feb 2012 #319
How far do you expect her to run? He could have walked after and brought her back. Her escape wasnt rhett o rick Feb 2012 #326
How far? Far enough to kill herself. cstanleytech Feb 2012 #330
No,there was a #4 NeoConsSuck Feb 2012 #332
You are trying to use common sense against rationalizations. rhett o rick Feb 2012 #333
Why tackle her as an option other than grabbing her? Because of the risk of her resisting even more cstanleytech Feb 2012 #334
Brain dead or bullet in the back malaise Feb 2012 #30
Depends where the bullet hits and how much damage it does. cstanleytech Feb 2012 #34
A bullet to the head would have been merciful. The Backlash Cometh Feb 2012 #68
The cocaine and oxy probably helped. nt Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #76
That explains why she exercised poor judgment. The Backlash Cometh Feb 2012 #81
I already agreed that any good cop would have been able to wing her with a bullet so Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #85
Here is where you're misguided: The Backlash Cometh Feb 2012 #95
Close doesnt = the act is accomplished. If it did I would have won the powerball jackpot already. cstanleytech Feb 2012 #135
He could have simply fired a bullet into the AIR Carolina Feb 2012 #276
I would be a little worried about where the bullet would land. nt Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #280
If he had chased her and tackled her, it might have ended the same way. tclambert Feb 2012 #20
Well in that case then lunatica Feb 2012 #45
If he had tackled her, she would have had a chance to buffer the fall with her cuffed hands. The Backlash Cometh Feb 2012 #69
If she died that way, the response would have been "why didn't he use his taser, isn't that what Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #77
Nobody would support a taser over a conventional tackling. The Backlash Cometh Feb 2012 #80
LOL. nt Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #87
Brilliant retort. The Backlash Cometh Feb 2012 #92
He is right though, the headline would probably have been cstanleytech Feb 2012 #202
What's more likely is that the cop didn't want to hit pavement. The Backlash Cometh Feb 2012 #272
Or just cracked his nightstick across the back of her legs. nt Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #285
Try reversing it though. What if it had been a 90 pound female police officer vs cstanleytech Feb 2012 #305
No need to. The Backlash Cometh Feb 2012 #316
Well the main thing isnt size the main one is cstanleytech Feb 2012 #320
It still doesn't justify the police's actions. The Backlash Cometh Feb 2012 #323
Hey you will get no argument from me that they need to secure them better. cstanleytech Feb 2012 #325
Nobody would support a tackling over use of a taser. boppers Feb 2012 #208
He probably could have walked following her for about a 100 feet and she would have stopped. rhett o rick Feb 2012 #164
And she could have decided not to try and escape. cstanleytech Feb 2012 #179
She was being punished for daring to try to escape. Police dont like it when you rhett o rick Feb 2012 #307
2 hit and runs that day, driving while intoxicated, multiple previous convictions. Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #311
Bullet or taser? And those were the only two alternatives? Right? Cop should truth2power Feb 2012 #15
Right. When you tase a running person Jackpine Radical Feb 2012 #40
Actually yes, its her fault cstanleytech Feb 2012 #46
She was 0% at fault for the use of EXCESSIVE force. AnotherMcIntosh Feb 2012 #139
What was the proper amount of force? nt Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #142
Obviously something less than shooting her in the back with a Taser. AnotherMcIntosh Feb 2012 #144
I think a shot to the ankle or through the shoulder blade would have sufficed. Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #146
You might qualify to be hired as a cop. Of course, he could have pretended that she was a donut and AnotherMcIntosh Feb 2012 #151
Given they were running out into a busy road, maybe we'd have one more dead cop and if lucky one Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #155
It's unlikely that the tasing of this girl improved traffic flow. AnotherMcIntosh Feb 2012 #162
Wonder it it would have been better if they were both cut down by a passing car. Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #163
As opposed to say shooting her in the back with the gun? I mean come on cstanleytech Feb 2012 #178
Excessive force is excessive force whether it is used on an innocent bystander or a felon. AnotherMcIntosh Feb 2012 #222
Actually, shooting her with a gun would seem to be more than shooting her with a taser. AnotherMcIntosh Feb 2012 #228
Her hand were not cuffed behind her SaintPete Feb 2012 #49
That was the only bad police procedure I saw in the video. tclambert Feb 2012 #224
I agree SaintPete Feb 2012 #232
He could have secondvariety Feb 2012 #237
Yes but would the republicans in congress really agree to have her handcuffed to them? cstanleytech Feb 2012 #267
You lose muscle control when you're tased. The Backlash Cometh Feb 2012 #66
did you see her body's reaction to Carolina Feb 2012 #275
No, the real cause was her trying to escape after being arrested. cstanleytech Feb 2012 #306
Agreed, appalling. discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #279
Yay, Cops! Iggo Feb 2012 #3
This is sad. Tripod Feb 2012 #6
"Taser is a good weapon." Leftist Agitator Feb 2012 #28
Yes it is, I want one. Tripod Feb 2012 #340
There really needs to be a re-education and/or re-evaluation of the type of people chosen as police. Old and In the Way Feb 2012 #7
Sounds more like they chose those with personality disorders. dipsydoodle Feb 2012 #18
Well, we know they weed out the ones who are too bright. Jackpine Radical Feb 2012 #41
A responsible police force tries to weed out the bullies and the trigger-happy from their recruits, tclambert Feb 2012 #19
"Responsible police department"? Scootaloo Feb 2012 #23
You know you're exaggerating. tclambert Feb 2012 #26
hmm... kenfrequed Feb 2012 #50
Sounds like the parents of the woman could have used parenting classes. Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #53
Well, I guess the punishment fit the crime, then. nt Old and In the Way Feb 2012 #58
Bad behavior all around qanda Feb 2012 #21
Civil Suit? nt avebury Feb 2012 #24
They've already lawyered up SaintPete Feb 2012 #51
I'd like to know what the hell she did... MrMickeysMom Feb 2012 #25
suspected hit-and-run Crabby Appleton Feb 2012 #36
Spam deleted by uppityperson (MIR Team) dfhjkyulyu Feb 2012 #29
Cops need to be taught that tasers are not a weapon of convenience. Vinca Feb 2012 #31
well said Locrian Feb 2012 #37
"weapon of compliance" kenfrequed Feb 2012 #54
Exactly. It would have been a simple matter for the officer to just throw his baton at her legs or Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #55
Does your post actually make sense to you? thedude333 Feb 2012 #70
Sometimes it's not worth using the sarcasm tag. Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #75
+1,000,000 Auggie Feb 2012 #59
Damn, that's just awful Art_from_Ark Feb 2012 #32
The sob that invented the taser should have one used on him frequently madokie Feb 2012 #33
They Did dwindham Feb 2012 #44
If he had run and tackled her, it may have ended the same way. Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #35
If a couple of cops tasered an out of control 5 year old girl, HockeyMom Feb 2012 #38
I am usuall quick to jump aboard the anti-LEO bandwagon Fastcars Feb 2012 #39
She ran straight out into the street TorchTheWitch Feb 2012 #118
The use of excessive force was not an accident. Under the law, adults of normal intelligence AnotherMcIntosh Feb 2012 #141
but it wasn't excessive SaintPete Feb 2012 #255
Obviously it was. AnotherMcIntosh Feb 2012 #256
It's not obvious at all SaintPete Feb 2012 #257
It is obvious to those who are perceptive. AnotherMcIntosh Feb 2012 #258
Did you read this article? skii Feb 2012 #42
"When does one have to finally take responsibility for their own actions?" KansDem Feb 2012 #57
the key word is "allegedly" noiretextatique Feb 2012 #161
Tasered woman now brain dead dwindham Feb 2012 #43
BASTARDS JJW Feb 2012 #47
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This won't win any popularity contests SaintPete Feb 2012 #48
This shows an incredible ignorance to what a taser does to the body. The Backlash Cometh Feb 2012 #71
Post removed Post removed Feb 2012 #73
This message was self-deleted by its author SaintPete Feb 2012 #86
You are way out of line with the insults. The Backlash Cometh Feb 2012 #88
I'm not at all glad she's in a coma SaintPete Feb 2012 #94
Except she wasn't attacking. You harmed yourself with that argument. The Backlash Cometh Feb 2012 #97
But she didn't get a bullet in the back did she? SaintPete Feb 2012 #99
You are using fear to advance your argument. It's not enough. The Backlash Cometh Feb 2012 #103
You think they let her run just to tase her? REALLY? SaintPete Feb 2012 #109
Yes, I absolutely do believe it's feasible. The Backlash Cometh Feb 2012 #127
"there should be an investigation to determine how she managed to slip away" cstanleytech Feb 2012 #182
As she escaped by running? polly7 Feb 2012 #100
I agree she should not have died, but she was attacking everyone SaintPete Feb 2012 #102
Your fear is clouding your judgment. The Backlash Cometh Feb 2012 #104
That takes the cake, right there SaintPete Feb 2012 #111
She wasn't driving anymore, she was running away. polly7 Feb 2012 #107
On drugs, looking for a way to escape SaintPete Feb 2012 #110
I can picture it. polly7 Feb 2012 #112
If she hadn't tried to escape SaintPete Feb 2012 #114
I don't care WHAT she did to get arrested for. polly7 Feb 2012 #115
Her crimes are not numbered to measure the value of her life SaintPete Feb 2012 #123
The most real expectation would be that a tased, handcuffed woman with polly7 Feb 2012 #125
Sorry, had a kneejerk reaction SaintPete Feb 2012 #90
No, it shows an accute understanding SaintPete Feb 2012 #83
There was no way she was going to get away. No possible way. Not handcuffed the way she was. The Backlash Cometh Feb 2012 #91
No the big question SaintPete Feb 2012 #98
Will never accept your reasoning, The Backlash Cometh Feb 2012 #101
Nice hyperbole. The cop's actions didn't deny society ANYTHING SaintPete Feb 2012 #106
The definition of justice should explain it all. The Backlash Cometh Feb 2012 #126
Right on, brother! Th1onein Feb 2012 #130
dear lord, tomorrow she'll be 80 pounds SaintPete Feb 2012 #133
No, it will be a blind nun who was saving 8 orphans from a burning bus. cstanleytech Feb 2012 #190
+1000 Dawson Leery Feb 2012 #148
she did not choose to be tasered....the cop chose to taser her noiretextatique Feb 2012 #154
He made an acceptable choice SaintPete Feb 2012 #180
Obviously, not. polly7 Feb 2012 #191
No, its not "obvious", its just tragic SaintPete Feb 2012 #201
Well gee ............. polly7 Feb 2012 #204
it was not an acceptable choice: it was a lazy choice noiretextatique Feb 2012 #240
taser lead to loss of physiologic Carolina Feb 2012 #278
My friend was tased on a sidewalk outside a bar. Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #281
How fragile life is. The Backlash Cometh Feb 2012 #60
Try not being a dumb ass and running from cops when you are under arrest. thedude333 Feb 2012 #67
Always JEB Feb 2012 #108
the cop needs to take personal responsibility too noiretextatique Feb 2012 #156
Of the two I think hers to try and escape was the worst though but cstanleytech Feb 2012 #193
i agree...she did make a poor choice noiretextatique Feb 2012 #242
Well she didnt even die because of the taser itself but rather when she fell she hit her head cstanleytech Feb 2012 #248
she died because shefell after he tasered her noiretextatique Feb 2012 #254
You forgot a part cstanleytech Feb 2012 #262
Alternative? ArtiChoke Feb 2012 #105
Another case of excessive force. discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #120
She was crashing cars into things. Multiple times. boppers Feb 2012 #216
I think the videos... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #236
An impressive display of lazyness which basically resulted in someones death senorsquishy Feb 2012 #121
All you wingnut trolls defending the police GETPLANING Feb 2012 #122
thank you...and cops need to take responsibility for the choices they make noiretextatique Feb 2012 #158
She died because of a tragic accident SaintPete Feb 2012 #205
Saint Pete, holier than us GETPLANING Feb 2012 #261
He's dead SaintPete Feb 2012 #291
" too lazy to run a few steps" boppers Feb 2012 #218
What was he doing tasering someone in handcuffs? Th1onein Feb 2012 #128
She was running directly out into a busy road. nt Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #143
She was not, she was outside the police station. SunSeeker Feb 2012 #172
If she had not run, the cops would not have had to use ANY force to contain her SaintPete Feb 2012 #189
Protect and serve? ArtiChoke Feb 2012 #136
That's a great point. nt. polly7 Feb 2012 #150
I haven't heard how long it took from the moment of impact, The Backlash Cometh Feb 2012 #153
Having been young a long time ago Pakid Feb 2012 #147
If this country had the resources, we should assign one FBI agent to each Taser-carrying cop AnotherMcIntosh Feb 2012 #157
authoritarian types: capital punishment is not an "appropriate" form of arrest noiretextatique Feb 2012 #165
this was NOT capital punishment - this was an accident SaintPete Feb 2012 #183
He KNEW she'd drop uncontrollably to the CONCRETE once tased. SunSeeker Feb 2012 #200
Did he? Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #282
Thank you. You nailed it. SunSeeker Feb 2012 #184
authoritarian types noiretextatique Feb 2012 #239
You are right, blowing someones brains out with a pistol isnt appropriate cstanleytech Feb 2012 #195
Why do we still let police investigate police? radhika Feb 2012 #173
I'm still trying to figure out why we let politicians vote themselves raises cstanleytech Feb 2012 #197
She is at fault! NORTHERNBOYRULES Feb 2012 #188
She was out of it--he should have just grabbed her. SunSeeker Feb 2012 #203
Yeah, he did that on purpose SaintPete Feb 2012 #206
Yes, he did, and he knew she could crack her head. SunSeeker Feb 2012 #211
Not only is it Harrison's face SaintPete Feb 2012 #233
All you have to say is you've met the man, talked philosophy, shared food Dont call me Shirley Feb 2012 #246
What a BULLY COWARD that cop is, shooting an unarmed handcuffed young girl in the back. COWARD! Dont call me Shirley Feb 2012 #223
Two questions: hedgehog Feb 2012 #235
and Of COurse our Authoritarians are here to defend this fascisthunter Feb 2012 #238
That didn't take long SaintPete Feb 2012 #243
Not sure she can be called a "Lady" Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #284
No surprise there Hugabear Feb 2012 #296
right wing trolls fascisthunter Feb 2012 #352
This Thread is fucked up. NutmegYankee Feb 2012 #244
You do realize that part of the reason police departments issue tasers is precisely to stop fleeing cstanleytech Feb 2012 #250
Or LIHOP just to tase her SaintPete Feb 2012 #253
Which is it? SaintPete Feb 2012 #252
Some of these posters would be handing out the stones Hugabear Feb 2012 #297
This message was self-deleted by its author old man 76 Feb 2012 #247
"Lay down...Lay down!!!" KansDem Feb 2012 #249
Well, at least she didn't ESCAPE ! eppur_se_muova Feb 2012 #263
I don't know about that. discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #277
We need to retrain our police.... midnight Feb 2012 #270
What about more progressive Police Officers? FrodosPet Feb 2012 #271
How about requiring a minimum degree of physical fitness? KansDem Feb 2012 #324
Lot of assumptions there about his fitness. cstanleytech Feb 2012 #344
I've read more than one report that put his weight at 267 pounds. KansDem Feb 2012 #349
His ability to sprint though doesnt matter. cstanleytech Feb 2012 #350
Cops learn holds and take-down moves... KansDem Feb 2012 #353
And if he had tackled her and she had head injuries and died would cstanleytech Feb 2012 #354
Depends on how he tackled her. KansDem Feb 2012 #356
There is no maybe the fact is they did screw or she wouldnt have been able to run for it. cstanleytech Feb 2012 #357
I've seen some gore in my time, some really bad stuff. That was bad. joshcryer Feb 2012 #283
This thread is disturbing Broderick Feb 2012 #314
No shit - sometimes you have to check and make sure you're still at DU... Hugabear Feb 2012 #329
Yep Broderick Feb 2012 #335
This thread IS disturbing Agony Feb 2012 #338
I resist that notion but feel it Broderick Feb 2012 #339
And I "could" have hit the lottery last night. cstanleytech Feb 2012 #345
Before we get all sad about the state of our society and how sick we are. Ash_F Feb 2012 #343
risk of death from taser= 0.02%; risk from hit and run=0.16% elias7 Feb 2012 #355
One-third of people shot by Taser need medical attention. SunSeeker Feb 2012 #358
And 100% of those who end up getting wounded with a gun need medical attention. cstanleytech Feb 2012 #359
He could have just grabbed her. Neither a gun nor taser was needed. SunSeeker Feb 2012 #360
Yes he might have and she could have decided not to try to escape also. cstanleytech Feb 2012 #361
So? Under these facts, taser use was excessive force. SunSeeker Feb 2012 #362
Actually her attempt did put his, hers and other lives in danger. cstanleytech Feb 2012 #363
Actually, the cop caused her death because he was lazy. SunSeeker Feb 2012 #364
Incorrect. cstanleytech Feb 2012 #365
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