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kristopher

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52. Expanding the rate base drives unneeded generation and wasteful spending on facilities

Mon Aug 12, 2013, 04:58 PM

Aug 2013

The only way to increase profits is to increase the amount they spend - whether the spending is needed or not.

That's why CWIP and nuclear plants are so popular with certain utilities.

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Toxic Water Detected In Newly Built Well At Fukushima Nuclear Plant [View all] Purveyor Aug 2013 OP

The situation seem s all but hopeless Generic Other Aug 2013 #1

Ah, so you're an apologist for coal/gas/fracking. wtmusic Aug 2013 #2

Renewables have had nowhere near the financial support / subsidies that coal/gas/fracking have... Flaxbee Aug 2013 #3

That excuse has been around for forty years wtmusic Aug 2013 #4

You are correct with current technologies about renewables ... however MindMover Aug 2013 #13

Right now, can they do the job? NutmegYankee Aug 2013 #14

Yes current renewable technology CAN do the job. kristopher Aug 2013 #21

OK. Just what are you declaring independence from? wtmusic Aug 2013 #25

From being sucked dry by the leeches and vampires known as ... MindMover Aug 2013 #47

You do understand the difference between energy companies wtmusic Aug 2013 #48

Yes, and you will now state that utilities have nothing to do with MindMover Aug 2013 #49

Utilties are permitted to charge 10% more than their costs. wtmusic Aug 2013 #50

Expanding the rate base drives unneeded generation and wasteful spending on facilities kristopher Aug 2013 #52

Been there done that and very proud to say it ... in Northern California MindMover Aug 2013 #53

For how long, 6 hours? wtmusic Aug 2013 #54

Wow, you really are a nonbeliever.... MindMover Aug 2013 #55

Let's put it this way wtmusic Aug 2013 #56

Coming to a town and city near you .... Soon MindMover Aug 2013 #57

That's the Church of Renewables mantra: "coming soon". wtmusic Aug 2013 #58

Not really that big a deal since it is currently known technology applied MindMover Aug 2013 #59

There is not even close to enough retrievable energy in sun/wind to meet 21st century needs. wtmusic Aug 2013 #61

Finally talking some sense about climate change....but then you digress MindMover Aug 2013 #65

Don't you recognize the strategy of accusing others of your own weakness when you see it? kristopher Aug 2013 #51

One minor point. Stonepounder Aug 2013 #16

The leftovers of coal kill about 15,000 Americans every year wtmusic Aug 2013 #24

So, all the stuff that is flowing into the ocean from Fukishima is just a Coke can's worth? n/t Stonepounder Aug 2013 #27

Hype that keeps the public buying newspapers. wtmusic Aug 2013 #29

Much less in fact. FBaggins Aug 2013 #33

In your zeal to promote nuclear you simply refuse to be bound by the truth kristopher Aug 2013 #19

My Norwegian neighbor carla Aug 2013 #5

I hope he doesn't have anything in that fridge/freezer that can spoil wtmusic Aug 2013 #6

You may have noticed that your landline phone doesn't go out when we lose power. That's because jtuck004 Aug 2013 #17

A refrigerator uses 120x the energy of a landline phone wtmusic Aug 2013 #18

You can define parameters so they suit your outcome, which doesn't add anything but more weasel jtuck004 Aug 2013 #26

"Greedy and clasping hands"? That's a laugh. wtmusic Aug 2013 #28

Enron. n/t jtuck004 Aug 2013 #30

Not only was Enron not a utility wtmusic Aug 2013 #36

You want to have it both ways. Not hardly worth talking to at this point. jtuck004 Aug 2013 #38

I have no earthly idea what you want wtmusic Aug 2013 #39

If you're really concerned about that you can get a tank of LP, and a dual fuel fridge AtheistCrusader Aug 2013 #34

Solar in Norway? Helen Borg Aug 2013 #44

You're right. kristopher Aug 2013 #20

Not on nuke power Generic Other Aug 2013 #7

Wind/solar = renewables, and Hanford didn't have anything to do with power generation, did it? wtmusic Aug 2013 #9

Hanford does have one commercial reactor these days Generic Other Aug 2013 #10

So they do, I didn't know that. wtmusic Aug 2013 #11

My city burns garbage in an incinerator Generic Other Aug 2013 #15

The problem is not a shortage of clean energy at all wtmusic Aug 2013 #22

But you are never going to convince most of us that this is true Generic Other Aug 2013 #31

I'm fortunate in that I've actually been able to change quite a few minds wtmusic Aug 2013 #37

There are no logical arguments for using nuclear technology Generic Other Aug 2013 #60

Then you are for coal/gas/fracking. You support climate change. wtmusic Aug 2013 #63

That's ridiculous Generic Other Aug 2013 #64

Burning garbage creates the most deadly waste of all NickB79 Aug 2013 #43

The industry does say they burn clean and gov. regs are strict Generic Other Aug 2013 #62

Columbia Generating Station cranks out 10% of the state's power. AtheistCrusader Aug 2013 #35

I have been cutting energy use my whole life Generic Other Aug 2013 #66

Tidal power is loathsome. hunter Aug 2013 #68

I read that there are only 20 viable sites in the world for tidal? Generic Other Aug 2013 #69

I have many stories about the old days of the anti-nuclear movement... hunter Aug 2013 #71

Global energy consumption: Nuclear 2.7%; Renewables 16.7% kristopher Aug 2013 #23

Encouraging news Generic Other Aug 2013 #32

and this surprises them why? hollysmom Aug 2013 #8

I don't get why they would be surprised sakabatou Aug 2013 #12

It doesn't surprise them Generic Other Aug 2013 #67

This may not fly, but here goes. ConcernedCanuk Aug 2013 #40

Yeah but we won in 2013. wtmusic Aug 2013 #41

Only took ya 300 years! ConcernedCanuk Aug 2013 #42

We obviously need to go to war over this. L0oniX Aug 2013 #45

again? ConcernedCanuk Aug 2013 #46

Notice they never mention what else they find. Octafish Aug 2013 #70