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36. republicans also supported the EPA, a guaranteed annual income, cap-and-trade and high tariffs

Tue Jul 2, 2013, 07:44 PM

Jul 2013

at one time. If we jettison every policy that a republican has ever supported - even in the distant past - we will be throwing out a lot of good with the bad. We have more to worry about from the positions of modern day far-right, tea party-intimidated republicans than we do from those of the old republican party.

Our Progressive Caucus obviously thought the ACA was worthy of support, while modern tea party republicans hate it.

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HUGE: White House Delaying Key Obamacare Provision For A Year [View all] Tony_FLADEM Jul 2013 OP

Jeez Who Wrote The White House A Check rsmith6621 Jul 2013 #1

This smells like Harmony Blue Jul 2013 #57

Are you implying CORRUPTION was involved? Pterodactyl Jul 2013 #150

Shit. If the ACA doesn't get implemented, when are Ilsa Jul 2013 #2

I'm still waiting to see if there will be any savings--especially for those of us who already have yurbud Jul 2013 #103

We got a small rebate last year Ilsa Jul 2013 #111

IMO this Republican Health Insurance Bill is as corrupt as most politicians. Bandit Jul 2013 #3

How many republicans voted for this "Republican Health Insurance Bill"? pampango Jul 2013 #14

Who wrote the Bill? Bandit Jul 2013 #15

republicans also supported the EPA, a guaranteed annual income, cap-and-trade and high tariffs pampango Jul 2013 #36

Our political leadership ctsnowman Jul 2013 #118

Of course they didn't vote for it once it had President Obama's name on it. But totodeinhere Jul 2013 #35

It does not have Obama's name on, other than the derisive nickname, Obamacare, they gave it. pampango Jul 2013 #39

I meant it had Obama's name on it figuratively, not literally. totodeinhere Jul 2013 #45

And Democrats voted just as mindlessly (even the Progressive Caucus) - just for it rather pampango Jul 2013 #50

You are not understanding my point. I am explaining why the Republicans voted against totodeinhere Jul 2013 #51

Cynical politics AND the republican party has become much more conservative. pampango Jul 2013 #84

Most of that legislation you cited is from 40-50 years ago Art_from_Ark Jul 2013 #110

The Massachusetts legislature was 85% Democratic at the time. pampango Jul 2013 #112

The progressives voted for it because it was this or nothing Doctor_J Jul 2013 #138

It's like NSA spying -- people support it strictly on the basis of who's advocating it at the moment villager Jul 2013 #78

exactly n/t Psephos Jul 2013 #99

Whatever it is, it isn't Republican Yo_Mama Jul 2013 #26

It is a Republican Bill it was 1st proposed to counter Hillary Care , then Rmoney implimented it in bahrbearian Jul 2013 #29

"Obamacare" was a Republican idea. pa28 Jul 2013 #52

Well, I agree with your opinion Yo_Mama Jul 2013 #56

Well, forcing businesses to provide insurance to employees, Art_from_Ark Jul 2013 #109

"this republiccan health insurance"...this is the funniest thing I have read in months here. WE OWN Safetykitten Jul 2013 #61

This message was self-deleted by its author JenniferJuniper Jul 2013 #77

No it won't be undone Iliyah Jul 2013 #4

And you know that how? nm rhett o rick Jul 2013 #18

I wonder how a 1 year delay will positively impact unscrupulous sleazeballs who plan to dump. . . Journeyman Jul 2013 #5

I give up on this administration. GentryDixon Jul 2013 #6

Im with you. He is a joke BigD_95 Jul 2013 #149

Sheesh. My work hours were cut to no more than 29 per week - lynne Jul 2013 #7

No because the mandate will kick in in 2015, anyway. Yo_Mama Jul 2013 #22

The mandate will kick-in in 2015. At least that's what we're now told - lynne Jul 2013 #30

Yes, and the exchanges won't work properly either Yo_Mama Jul 2013 #40

And in late 2014, it'll "kick in" in 2017, perhaps? Scootaloo Jul 2013 #101

Why would they do this? bunnies Jul 2013 #8

I believe you answered your own question KansDem Jul 2013 #9

Im afraid of that too. bunnies Jul 2013 #16

I think so too. avaistheone1 Jul 2013 #49

The reason is to delay the bad effects until after the 2014 elections. Pterodactyl Jul 2013 #151

avoiding Wall Street crash medeak Jul 2013 #10

Almost like watering down Rolling Rock. n/t RufusTFirefly Jul 2013 #11

now that is funny dembotoz Jul 2013 #79

Thx. The joke is sort of an acquired taste. n/t RufusTFirefly Jul 2013 #81

But, but, but... I thought Obama could not do much with just a stroke of his pen? salib Jul 2013 #12

That Papa Johns weenie must be pleased Teamster Jeff Jul 2013 #13

The IRS is busy "encouraging" enlightenment Jul 2013 #152

First reaction decayincl Jul 2013 #17

Brilliant!! The President's three-dimensional chessplaying skills are getting even better!!! RufusTFirefly Jul 2013 #19

Obummer. Again. PSPS Jul 2013 #20

IMHO this is FUBAR Duckwraps Jul 2013 #21

If they can do this... subterranean Jul 2013 #23

Exactly Harmony Blue Jul 2013 #53

Well, ya see, it's like this. Obama is not emperor, but the next republican can do ANYTHING. Safetykitten Jul 2013 #93

Excellent point. A future administration can just stop enforcing all of it. (nt) nessa Jul 2013 #121

Only things like this can be implemented by executive decree Doctor_J Jul 2013 #137

This is going to make the 2014 elections even more interesting, indeed. eom Purveyor Jul 2013 #24

What provision of the law allows this? Is this even legal? David__77 Jul 2013 #25

It was just a strong suggestion! Yo_Mama Jul 2013 #46

But *I* can't opt out of the mandate Le Taz Hot Jul 2013 #27

Mission accomplished! n/t drdtroit Jul 2013 #94

Maybe you should incorporate Doctor_J Jul 2013 #147

I think I figured it out - it's health care workers (low-paid) Yo_Mama Jul 2013 #28

This mess is CRAZY!! LovingA2andMI Jul 2013 #31

WH doesn't want Dems to get creamed in 2014 elections nm MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #32

You nailed it. n/t cigsandcoffee Jul 2013 #38

Corporations don't vote - their employees do Yo_Mama Jul 2013 #43

Why would Dems get creamed in 2014, Seeking Serenity Jul 2013 #54

Yeah this increases voter apathy Harmony Blue Jul 2013 #55

If Obama care causes a bad surprise MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #62

True Harmony Blue Jul 2013 #66

Very good point! LovingA2andMI Jul 2013 #89

Then why quakerboy Jul 2013 #63

Maybe the law truly will be a disaster MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #65

Companies have already started to do this Harmony Blue Jul 2013 #70

They've been doing that anyway, for years. quakerboy Jul 2013 #108

Hi Manny! I posted this on July 1st Safetykitten Jul 2013 #68

I'd like to see that commercial as well! MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #69

But I thought the thundering success of the 2014 implementation was going to HELP Dems! Doctor_J Jul 2013 #141

I know, right. This was supposed to help every Dem out there!!! HeroInAHalfShell Jul 2013 #143

ROFL, "strongly encourage" is the new Obamacare. forestpath Jul 2013 #33

And the individual-mandate-or-get-IRS-penalized still stands? WorseBeforeBetter Jul 2013 #34

A decision made behind closed doors. Ash_F Jul 2013 #37

This hurts just thinking about this Harmony Blue Jul 2013 #41

Single Payer DallasNE Jul 2013 #42

That is what many of said that favored single payer Harmony Blue Jul 2013 #47

Fuck this shit! Single payer now!! m/t eridani Jul 2013 #44

+1 I concur Harmony Blue Jul 2013 #60

+ 1,000,000 suffragette Jul 2013 #100

"It shouldn't be delayed...it should be repealed" medeak Jul 2013 #48

Some of that article is just silly quakerboy Jul 2013 #67

It was interesting but am critical thinker medeak Jul 2013 #72

Im honestly not sure if you are trying to be ironically insulting, or funny, or what quakerboy Jul 2013 #107

another lie another broken promise bowens43 Jul 2013 #58

Well, well, well, like this clusterfuck for a clusterfuck was faster than I thought. Wait though... Safetykitten Jul 2013 #59

single payer in 2016! otherone Jul 2013 #64

+1000 abelenkpe Jul 2013 #71

Just remember! RGR375 Jul 2013 #80

I wish I could opt out of the hike in my self-insurance. AngryOldDem Jul 2013 #73

Yeah this delay is going to add fuel to the fire Harmony Blue Jul 2013 #74

How would the ACA cause your price to increase? quakerboy Jul 2013 #106

See posts 97 and 98. AngryOldDem Jul 2013 #113

I think that 2 different things are getting conflated, and they are imporant and distinct. quakerboy Jul 2013 #146

Here's an article I found that articulates my concern AngryOldDem Jul 2013 #148

Shocked, shocked, I tell ya! TransitJohn Jul 2013 #75

Correct. Safetykitten Jul 2013 #76

He sure roped the dopes, eh? (n/t) SMC22307 Jul 2013 #85

We knew Obama was an excellent boxer Puzzledtraveller Jul 2013 #117

Heh heh. SMC22307 Jul 2013 #159

Sequesterized ACA but not the NSA. L0oniX Jul 2013 #82

Pretty Darn Much LOoniX LovingA2andMI Jul 2013 #90

The vast majority of Obamacare is still on schedule ... Alhena Jul 2013 #83

Why are post like these ^^^^ LovingA2andMI Jul 2013 #92

I wonder though if they are doing this because they are trying to counter what employers are doing cstanleytech Jul 2013 #86

But this won't change - and it's already almost all done Yo_Mama Jul 2013 #114

Then they need to lower the hours even more say to 8 hours a week to qualify for the coverage. cstanleytech Jul 2013 #133

Well, why was this written in the bill in the first place? Yo_Mama Jul 2013 #142

I can't wait to hear the Obama admin explanation for THIS Jessy169 Jul 2013 #87

What the fucking hell?! markpkessinger Jul 2013 #88

I hope that legal action can be taken to force the administration to enforce the law. David__77 Jul 2013 #91

Maybe if businesses weren't so gung-ho on sticking their fat asses between people and healthcare gtar100 Jul 2013 #95

LOL- no fucking surprise there Marrah_G Jul 2013 #96

Exactly Cal Carpenter Jul 2013 #115

Am I correct in expecting that the mandate, for self-employed people,... GReedDiamond Jul 2013 #97

That's downright criminal... LovingA2andMI Jul 2013 #98

Your scenario is better than ours. Le Taz Hot Jul 2013 #119

That's terrible! So the question is, where is the "affordable"... GReedDiamond Jul 2013 #125

The entire thing, from start to finish, Le Taz Hot Jul 2013 #129

Wish I could disagree with you, but I cannot...nt GReedDiamond Jul 2013 #130

Monthly Premiums for Obamacare yeoman6987 Jul 2013 #124

So, screw workers and STILL give Repugs plenty of anti-Obamacare ammunition. MotherPetrie Jul 2013 #102

Oh good Politicalboi Jul 2013 #104

Health SamKnause Jul 2013 #105

My state is way behind implementation Puzzledtraveller Jul 2013 #116

Obama caved again. Conium Jul 2013 #120

Caved? Played his roll just as scripted. FiveGoodMen Jul 2013 #154

The cynical side of me christx30 Jul 2013 #122

Implementation of Obamacare yeoman6987 Jul 2013 #126

This does nothing but HURT THE POOR!!!!!! HeroInAHalfShell Jul 2013 #123

"This actually helps workers" - more 8th Dimensional Chess? leveymg Jul 2013 #127

of the 1%, for the 1%, by the 1%.... mike_c Jul 2013 #128

And the INDIVIDUAL MANDATE is still in place.... LovingA2andMI Jul 2013 #131

Weak Sauce. They_Live Jul 2013 #132

https://www.healthcare.gov Dystram Jul 2013 #134

I would be eligible for Medicaid Jamastiene Jul 2013 #157

Well, let's see that just leaves...... DeSwiss Jul 2013 #135

Wow Doctor_J Jul 2013 #136

He's sold out the progressives again Doctor_J Jul 2013 #139

Yeah this is worriesome... jimlup Jul 2013 #140

Not a republican program. Not a Democratic program. Jakes Progress Jul 2013 #144

They only admit to listening to business. GeorgeGist Jul 2013 #145

Three dimensional metaphysical chess Fearless Jul 2013 #153

Drop the age limit on Medicare to birth. davidwparker Jul 2013 #155

that is what i did (checked the W4 box) sweetapogee Jul 2013 #156

They only delayed the employer madate,...! DailyGrind51 Jul 2013 #158