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23. Obviously, you have no basis to continue asserting that falsehood, or else you would tell us

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Sat Jun 29, 2013, 09:21 PM

Jun 2013

how "it doesn't show that." We await a sensible, fact-based reply.

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Newly Released NSA Slides Explain the PRISM Data-Collection Program [View all] Hissyspit Jun 2013 OP

There's never been a better time to turn on, tune in and drop out NoOneMan Jun 2013 #1

You should see the first George Lucas film, "THX-1138". It is about just that. leveymg Jun 2013 #5

THX-1138 is a classic film, no doubt. nt Enthusiast Jun 2013 #38

NOTE SLIDE 2: Voice recognition and Internet are part of PRISM - it isn't just metadata! leveymg Jun 2013 #2

Everything. This must be the latest release from Ed. wtmusic Jun 2013 #6

NOTE SLIDE 3: Voice data appears to be Content Type: STORED COMMS (Except VoIP) leveymg Jun 2013 #8

NOTE SLIDE 7: EMAIL and CHAT are included in PRISM database. Distinction between SURVEILLANCE and leveymg Jun 2013 #10

Obama did not say that with regard to foreign targets, which is what PRISM targets. pnwmom Jun 2013 #15

Yes, he did. You're making a false distinction. Both parts go through a single NSA database, and leveymg Jun 2013 #25

Congratulations, you've just proved that the President said there's no content in the database. pnwmom Jun 2013 #27

Slide 3 shows there is A-J "types of Content" in the database, including email, VoIP, and the leveymg Jun 2013 #42

NOTE B SLIDE 3: NSA intercepts email, on-line chats in real-time, CONTENT TYPES C,D leveymg Jun 2013 #53

You're confusing two separate issues. Internal US surveillance involves the use of pnwmom Jun 2013 #14

No. They are part of the same NSA database. This proves that fact. See comments below. leveymg Jun 2013 #22

How and where does it prove that? nt pnwmom Jun 2013 #36

I was surprised to see this comes from an FBI data collection apparatus. dkf Jul 2013 #60

The law doesn't even permit surveillance of metadata. wtmusic Jun 2013 #34

The metadata focus is the shiny object. The issues are email and profiling - the system profiles leveymg Jun 2013 #40

Exactly - and it's critical to note that interception or even intending to intercept is a crime. wtmusic Jun 2013 #41

Unless you're AT&T, in which case, all is forgiven, per Jewel. Carry on, citizen. leveymg Jun 2013 #45

The Verizon metadata leak was a totally different thing benh57 Jun 2013 #57

They are just two facets of the same NSA program. Look at Slide 1 - US voice content (STORED COMMS) leveymg Jul 2013 #61

Interesting. secondvariety Jun 2013 #3

Questions: JDPriestly Jun 2013 #4

I'm pissed that my tax dollars went to designing that cheesy "Prism" logo. nt wtmusic Jun 2013 #7

It's supposed to look all Star Warsy, Pink Floydy, Omni Consumer Productsy NBachers Jun 2013 #28

Anyone who uses Arial Book for a logo should be waterboarded wtmusic Jun 2013 #32

On the serious side of life; kitt6 Jun 2013 #9

Even the flow-charts look evil! Ash_F Jun 2013 #11

What this tells us: Obama was lying to us when he said "there's no content" in the NSA's PRISM leveymg Jun 2013 #12

The only thing it tells us is that you didn't bother to read the first sentence of the article: pnwmom Jun 2013 #16

This new information shows they are two parts of the same NSA database. See my comment below. leveymg Jun 2013 #18

No, it doesn't show that. n/t pnwmom Jun 2013 #20

Obviously, you have no basis to continue asserting that falsehood, or else you would tell us leveymg Jun 2013 #23

I can't prove a negative. But you can prove a positive. Where DOES it say that in the OP? pnwmom Jun 2013 #24

Eleven hours on this thread and you are the only skeptic ... Kolesar Jun 2013 #50

Save your breath. This is your "dining room table" moment. PSPS Jun 2013 #46

Boy, do you have that one reversed. The reasoned argument in this one is all leveymg Jun 2013 #51

Saying it does, doesn't make it so Godhumor Jun 2013 #43

Those 117K are just those who are targeted - not how many are being looked at "2 hops out" leveymg Jun 2013 #44

So PRISM involves "foreign targets operating outside the United States" pnwmom Jun 2013 #13

All US telco traffic is intercepted by NSA. The FISA Court order released earlier shows that. leveymg Jun 2013 #17

That's not what the article in the OP says, and it links to an older article pnwmom Jun 2013 #19

That argument is over how NSA gets the data from the 9 companies. It's extraneous to the leveymg Jun 2013 #21

What a shitty piece of software. wtmusic Jun 2013 #26

"LOL - Microsoft first to fall in bed with these scum" wtmusic Jun 2013 #29

Please tell me ... GeorgeGist Jun 2013 #30

I seriously wish I could. think Jun 2013 #33

"51% confidence." DirkGently Jun 2013 #31

Maybe a Glenn Beck chalkboard... Grassy Knoll Jun 2013 #35

Next week kitt6 Jun 2013 #37

Shoot the messengers and go shopping. Coccydynia Jun 2013 #39

In other words, everyone from Obama on down is lying to us or is making stuff up if they don't know PSPS Jun 2013 #47

14. MY (fake) security beats your right to privacy, you libertarian-naderite commie-teabagger. idwiyo Jun 2013 #59

Pinwale - NYT Story 2005. This sh*t's been going on too long... NoodleyAppendage Jun 2013 #48

I love how the corporate contractors call spying on people just a product line. fasttense Jun 2013 #49

"The program is court-approved" DCBob Jun 2013 #52

That's exactly the problem. The 2008 FISA Amendment gave NSA too much room to get creative leveymg Jun 2013 #54

Kick nt Hissyspit Jun 2013 #55

kick idwiyo Jun 2013 #56

Kick. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #58