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JackN415

(924 posts)
5. The tip of an iceberg. That is why US-China so-called "mutual" cyber spying is a big deception...
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 07:31 AM
Jun 2013

Last edited Fri Jun 28, 2013, 09:12 AM - Edit history (1)

The US does not engage in corporate, economic hacking to steal technology or trade secrets. At most, even if (BIG IF) the allegation by Snowden were true, the spying was for national security either against terrorism or about China military expansion.

In reverse, China routinely steals US intellectual properties, trade secrets, and snoops on various US organizations for other economically significant confidential information.

The news world and laypersons don't care the difference. Snowden provided the Chinese a perfect smokescreen to derail the US effort to confront China during the Obama-Xi JinPing summit. If he didn't get any compensation from the Chinese, it would be stupid of him. What is worse than a traitor is a stupid traitor who didn't get a dime.

This is a same as if a neighbor installs a security camera on his fence to make sure the neighbor's dog doesn't stray into his yard. The neighbor installs secret camera in his house, bedrooms, hacks into his bank account... and says: you spy on me and so, why do you accuse me of spying on you?

They are not the same.

The Chinese cyberhacking military unit may get trade secrets from Cisco or Apple for examples. They would give them to Huawei. The US doesn't spy on Huawei to give the info to US corporations.

Attempted Corporate Homicide????? fasttense Jun 2013 #1
Corporations are people. GeorgeGist Jun 2013 #4
I was going to post a similar reaction... Earth_First Jun 2013 #6
Will the punishment be a corporate execution? L0oniX Jun 2013 #12
I don't think he meant it literally. The theft was designed to "kill off the business", it wouldn't okaawhatever Jun 2013 #20
If you can't invent it, steal it... BadtotheboneBob Jun 2013 #2
If only the federal government had a program to counter Chinese cyber crime Kolesar Jun 2013 #3
How do you know such a program doesn't exist? Brother Buzz Jun 2013 #17
Well, I did put up the :dry: sign Kolesar Jun 2013 #19
There is a firm called Mandiant that made huge breakthroughs on catching China spying. It's not okaawhatever Jun 2013 #21
US and NY Times were working with Mandiant Kolesar Jun 2013 #22
The tip of an iceberg. That is why US-China so-called "mutual" cyber spying is a big deception... JackN415 Jun 2013 #5
How do you know this for sure cojoel Jun 2013 #7
Just do some research into it. If you don't have time, google it and read a few articles. JackN415 Jun 2013 #8
You can ask the NSA can't ya? I'll bet they know all about it ...erm hmmm L0oniX Jun 2013 #13
That's exactly the effect they want. They have planted the seed of doubt. You can look at tons of okaawhatever Jun 2013 #23
And if Snowden was so concerned about American civil liberties... Blue State Bandit Jun 2013 #10
Quelle surprise......... Beacool Jun 2013 #9
What does it matter - we're not using the technology (much) ... Myrina Jun 2013 #11
That's what I was thinking... secondvariety Jun 2013 #14
THANKS, SNOWDEN!! bullwinkle428 Jun 2013 #15
I know someone who went to a Japanese trade fair and saw a product he was developing, for sale. Gregorian Jun 2013 #16
china used to be the technology leader in the known world madrchsod Jun 2013 #18
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